How Did the Side Door Get Opened?/Door Locks/Use of Cinder Block**REVISITED**

[Lexington]

What I find strange about the cinderblock is that Ron was asked about it by GVS or NG and he said that he hadn't seen it before, although I heard later that there were other cinderblocks found on the property. Wouldn't it make sense for a father with two small children who would be playing outside to investigate the grounds to make sure that there was no broken glass, rusty nails, etc. that the children might injure themselves on. How could he live on the property for a few months and not know what was there. I find it odd that Ron denied all knowledge of the cinderblocks. Another red flag for me.

 

[Whisperer]

Totally agree with you, Lexington.

 

[Whisperer]

The back door was propped and opened by somebody inside...If they both insist the back door was locked and bolted, why hasn't someone suggested a perp came through the front door and out the back? Why are we always working "The back door theory?" Have we been steered this way on purpose?

 

[Skully]

Hello BJB, good to see you over here for a bit. Misty made the statement, and then was asked by the 911 operator to clarify what she said.

911: “911, what’s your emergency”
Misty Croslin: “Hi…umm…I just woke up…and our backdoor was wide open and I think…and I can’t find our daughter”
911: “you can’t find what?”
Misty Croslin:”our daughter”
911:” OK, what’s your address?
Misty Croslin: “(inaudible)”
911: “OK, what’s the numerical?”
Misty Croslin: “The numerical…what’s that?”
911: “the number…green lane?”
Misty Croslin: “Yes”
911: “OK when did you last see her?”
Misty Croslin: “Um, we like just, you know…it was about 10 o’clock- she was sleeping- I was cleaning…
911: “OK- how old is your daughter?”
Misty Croslin: “She’s five”
911: “Ok…what was she last seen wearing? Maam…”
Misty Croslin: “She was in her pajamas- she was sleeping…”


911: “OK…alright…You said your back door was wide open?”
Misty Croslin: “yes- it was bricked- there was a brick on the floor…when I was asleep it was not like that.”
911: Ok…the back door…listen to me…your back door was wide open…what are you talking about a brick?”
Misty Croslin: “(inaudible)”
911: “what is a brick?”
Misty Croslin: “it’s almost like– on the stairs- we have a walkway…”
911:” uh huh….and there was a brick laying there?”
Misty Croslin: “yes…it’s still there”

Just bumping this up. I posted on the Where is Haleigh Thread about the cinder block and the screen door. I don't know if she is in shock or just confused or scared to death of what RC is going to do.

 

[Skully]

What I find strange about the cinderblock is that Ron was asked about it by GVS or NG and he said that he hadn't seen it before, although I heard later that there were other cinderblocks found on the property. Wouldn't it make sense for a father with two small children who would be playing outside to investigate the grounds to make sure that there was no broken glass, rusty nails, etc. that the children might injure themselves on. How could he live on the property for a few months and not know what was there. I find it odd that Ron denied all knowledge of the cinderblocks. Another red flag for me.

If this block was there all the time, LE will know. There will be signs that it has laid on the ramp, there will be signs that the screen door has been repeatedly propped open with scratches or cement traces on that door. Maybe that is why they took it. Misty is the Key, and story about the cinder block. Why did they bring there own cinder block?

 

[elle1919]

If this block was there all the time, LE will know. There will be signs that it has laid on the ramp, there will be signs that the screen door has been repeatedly propped open with scratches or cement traces on that door. Maybe that is why they took it. Misty is the Key, and story about the cinder block. Why did they bring there own cinder block?

Since this cinder block is a porous surface, I hope LE was able to get evidence from it. If what Ronald says is true and no-one ever used the back door, he said that and then Misty said in the same interview that they used the door sometimes to take out the trash or vacuum the cars out. Thats not never is it....that is sometimes. I wonder if Misty is the one that "sometimes used the door" Maybe she "bricked" it herself that night to fool Ronald. Maybe she was afraid of him and she set the door up to make it look more like an abduction.

Purely speculation of course. I don't want to ruffle any feathers.

 

[Skully]

When LE went back and took the screen door, everyone was saying "Why, after all this time do they want the door?" some thought it was the lock, but that was on the inside wooden door, or prints. I think it will prove one way or the other if the door was only bricked that one time.

 

[Scorpian]

Wasn't the door removed right after the TN tour of the home? IIRC, (and I'm not sure exactly how to explain my first hmmmm that I had) The reporter lady was showing how the screen door slammed and the inside door wouldn't stay open and she stood in the middle of both doors w/ her arms fully extended and could not really keep control of both doors at the same time.

So I guess my interest in this is if an adult person could not hold both doors open then how could the cinder block hold both doors open (assuming both were open) long enough for someone to enter, do whatever they did, then exit? To me if the cinder block was used for ease of access it would only be able to hold one door open. I have always wondered if LE took the door after that demonstration, almost as if it wouldv'e taken two people. That deomonstration always stood out to me. JMO, if any of this makes sense. :waitasec:

 

[Whisperer]

I contend the block was always there on the ramp. Misty and Ron both utilized the back door at times. Ron could have placed an airlock on the door (like most screen doors have) but he didn't....he used the cinder block. All this is speculation but it makes sense. If I lived there, I know I would use a block if I didn't have an air lock...this was a ramp, for Pete's sake. That door would hit your shins going out and your heels coming in.

 

[Skully]

Well it makes sense to prop open the door if you are a smoker. Haleigh has a breathing condition and I would think RC and Misty didn't smoke in the MH, but I don't have proof of this, just common sense not too. I saw the videos and Misty and Ron appeared to me to have smoked a good bit. If she was home all day and all night with the kids as she said it was her main job, I would imagine she used the back door when cooking, or doing laundry to grab a quick smoke. The screen door should tell the story and the ramp and block. There will be signs of usage over a period of time. This is one more thing that LE is not talking about.

 

[Whisperer]

That back door faces the motor home next door. It looks very close.....can't imagine an intruder breaking in the back door and carrying anything out of there. A stranger would worry about being spotted by the residents of the house nearby.

IMO, RC seems to be a very private person with regards to his living conditions. I imagine no one used that door unless it was for chores....doesn't seem the type to want neighbors looking at him except for the normal day to day living.

I bet Guests and activities, such as smoking, all took place using the front door. The Front door looks obstructed from view of the two neghbors, as it appears to be in front of both trailers.

 

[Skully]

Whisper,

I guess we can only speculate on where they smoked or what door was used to go out. My point is, if the screen door or ramp show signs that the door was routinely propped open, it blows the theory that no one ever saw that brick before or we never used that door. I don't think LE took the screen door because of prints, maybe for the lock but my guess it is to prove or disprove the statement. If they ever find Haleigh, I guess they will have some evidence to prove "for or against" Ron and Misty's statements.

 

[elle1919]

I really wish that family was still talking and doing interviews. I would ask if they smoke in the home. In my opinion this cinder block and the back door is the biggest clue that LE have. Since the block was there, IF someone abducted Haleigh....they touched the block. Even if the block was there on the ramp already, unless they left that door open 24/7, they touched the block. I hold onto the hope in my heart that LE has some DNA evidence. Also, Crystal said she has never been inside the home. The fact that they waited to ask her for fingerprints and a DNA swab...didn't they contact her to give some DNA right about the time of the dumpster search???????? I think they would have had some time from the start to that point to get some results back.

 

[lil momma]

IIRC, MC & RC had only lived there a few weeks/months prior to HC missing. I wonder the condition of the screen door prior to their moving in. which made me just think of something else....wouldn't it make sense when RC & MC were moving into the MH, that the side door would be the best to use to move in all the furniture, being that there is a ramp there? maybe the door has been like that since they moved in, since they weren't living there that long. trying to take everything into consideration, I think it is awfully strange, that RC offers to LE and news media a way that the wood door got unlocked. (that was my very first red flag) as far as the cinder block is concerned, I think it was there all along and that info was given to LE as a derailment. I don't think a perp placed it there as a way to gain access to getting the wood door "bumped". If it is late at night, you don't know who is outside and who is looking, why would a perp go looking on the property for something to prop open a door? (given that the cinder block was with the others by the shed) Why take so many chances in getting caught? (leaving the kitchen light on, going into the very same room that MC and JR are sleeping in to take HC?) none of it adds up to me. IMO

I am also betting LE asked some of the neighbors about that screen door, may have even asked the landlord, if that door has been propped open for any certain amount of time.

 

[Skully]

IIRC, MC & RC had only lived there a few weeks/months prior to HC missing. I wonder the condition of the screen door prior to their moving in. which made me just think of something else....wouldn't it make sense when RC & MC were moving into the MH, that the side door would be the best to use to move in all the furniture, being that there is a ramp there? maybe the door has been like that since they moved in, since they weren't living there that long. trying to take everything into consideration, I think it is awfully strange, that RC offers to LE and news media a way that the wood door got unlocked. (that was my very first red flag) as far as the cinder block is concerned, I think it was there all along and that info was given to LE as a derailment. I don't think a perp placed it there as a way to gain access to getting the wood door "bumped". If it is late at night, you don't know who is outside and who is looking, why would a perp go looking on the property for something to prop open a door? (given that the cinder block was with the others by the shed) Why take so many chances in getting caught? (leaving the kitchen light on, going into the very same room that MC and JR are sleeping in to take HC?) none of it adds up to me. IMO

I am also betting LE asked some of the neighbors about that screen door, may have even asked the landlord, if that door has been propped open for any certain amount of time.

All good points. The door is narrow so I don't know if that would be the ideal door to get furnishing in, but the front has the porch and it is enclosed, so who knows. LE hasn't released any thing that was found, regarding the search of that MH. Nothing about prints, DNA, the doors, the block, just nothing. And no one has been arrested or even leaned on as a POI.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I have not read the whole thread so I will just give my opinion on the back door. It was said and showed in one of the interviews that [B]" BOTH DOORS" close automatically. It was then ASSUMED BY TN that maybe Misty has [/B]laundry on the floor and that is why the inside door was open. However, in Misty's interviews to LE she stated the back door was always locked and closed! The only way to see the screen door open is if the back door was wide OPEN...which would mean both doors would have been open. In her 911 call she only stated that the screen door was propped open with a brick/block. HOW WOULD SHE KNOW THAT IF THE DOOR WAS LOCKED? IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE THEN AND IT STILL DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

 

[maswondering2]

nothing about this whole thing makes sense....except there is lil girl missing and the police were called before 31 days.

 

[Donjeta]

I have not read the whole thread so I will just give my opinion on the back door. It was said and showed in one of the interviews that [B]" BOTH DOORS" close automatically. It was then ASSUMED BY TN that maybe Misty has [/B]laundry on the floor and that is why the inside door was open. However, in Misty's interviews to LE she stated the back door was always locked and closed! The only way to see the screen door open is if the back door was wide OPEN...which would mean both doors would have been open. In her 911 call she only stated that the screen door was propped open with a brick/block. HOW WOULD SHE KNOW THAT IF THE DOOR WAS LOCKED? IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE THEN AND IT STILL DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

It was fairly cool that night. She ought to have noticed a draft and if the door had been open for a significant amount of time she ought to have noted a change in the temperature but there was no such detail in what she told the media.

 

[Skully]

It was fairly cool that night. She ought to have noticed a draft and if the door had been open for a significant amount of time she ought to have noted a change in the temperature but there was no such detail in what she told the media.

Yet another good observation.

 

[debs]

I have not read the whole thread so I will just give my opinion on the back door. It was said and showed in one of the interviews that [B]" BOTH DOORS" close automatically. It was then ASSUMED BY TN that maybe Misty has [/b]laundry on the floor and that is why the inside door was open. However, in Misty's interviews to LE she stated the back door was always locked and closed! The only way to see the screen door open is if the back door was wide OPEN...which would mean both doors would have been open. In her 911 call she only stated that the screen door was propped open with a brick/block. HOW WOULD SHE KNOW THAT IF THE DOOR WAS LOCKED? IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE THEN AND IT STILL DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

My first instinct upon seeing a main door ajar is to open it all the way. It isn't inconceivable that Misty, upon beginning a search around the MH, saw the door ajar, went to it, opened it up, noticed the screen, and realizing things were worse than she thought, runs back to the bedroom for her phone (depending on which version of her story you choose to believe regarding sequence of events and when/where she chose to call Ronald from).