Hunting JonBenét’s Killer: The Untold Story Thurs Apr 11 A&E, 9pm
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John Ramsey knows that Burke had Hi-Tec boots because the police told him that in 2000. How many shoes come with a compass in the lace? Ramsey remembered Burke having shoes like that.
But Elizabeth Vargas is careful to ask him an irrelevant question. If I heard it correctly, she says, "Nobody in your family wears Hi-Tec boots?" Who cares if they wear them in 2019? (How would he know anyway? Is he the shoe inspector?)
But Elizabeth Vargas is careful to ask him an irrelevant question. If I heard it correctly, she says, "Nobody in your family wears Hi-Tec boots?" Who cares if they wear them in 2019? (How would he know anyway? Is he the shoe inspector?)
From the beatific look on his face during his interview, Todd Fuss must have had a guarantee in his back pocket that the program would publicly accuse Berenice Whatshername of trying to frame him. He probably had 1000 bucks burning a hole in his other back pocket.
I guess John Ramsey is going to acquiesce in slandering middle-aged working class men for the rest of his life.
I guess John Ramsey is going to acquiesce in slandering middle-aged working class men for the rest of his life.
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Is that a British thing, or does the Daily Mail writer simply not know that "Christmas Eve" is not the same as Christmas evening?
last known photo, scrunchie:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/11/20/12162742-6913311-image-m-48_1555012282555.jpg
at another website, heatherk79 noted photo of same hair tie:
jonbenet christmas tree - Google Search
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/11/20/12162742-6913311-image-m-48_1555012282555.jpg
at another website, heatherk79 noted photo of same hair tie:
jonbenet christmas tree - Google Search
When Coroner Meyer and Dr. Andrew Sirontak undertook a second autopsy on JonBenet, and Dr. Andrew Sirontak confirmed Coroner Meyer's earlier findings, but with some additions and qualifications, you have to wonder if they speculated on who did it?
Dr. Sirontak had to say to Coroner Meyer well it looks like you got that finding correct, that definitely backs up one of the resident males being the suspect, else looks like its all fake can only be the mother?
They could hardly behave like automatons, and spew out written reports and disappear into the void.
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Dr. Sirontak had to say to Coroner Meyer well it looks like you got that finding correct, that definitely backs up one of the resident males being the suspect, else looks like its all fake can only be the mother?
They could hardly behave like automatons, and spew out written reports and disappear into the void.
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I don't think she ever made it to bed that night.
I haven't been able to watch the series. Can someone who has provide some answers please? Was it ever specified when this photo was taken, exactly? Also, any answers to ZoriahNZ's post above?
I assume it was at the W's Christmas party (considering she's wearing the black vest)?
Perhaps, although that wouldn't explain why she was wearing the longjohns (which she didn't wear to the party). It would make sense that, whoever put her to bed (supposedly JR), would simply leave the white long-sleeve on (as it was comfortable enough to sleep in).
ZoriahNZ,
It definitely looks like it, but without seeing the Sequined Star on the front it cannot be confirmed.
Excerpts from National Enquirer book, "JonBenet, The Police Files" by Don Gentile and David Wright
So Patsy states JonBenet wore a black velvet vest. as part of an outfit she purchased from the Gap Store to the White's Christmas Party.
Assuming these were bought specifically for the White's Christmas Party and you can plainly see JonBenet is wearing a black velvet vest and Black velvet jeans then its safe to conclude the White Top will be the one with the Sequined Star?
Yes, but indistinct to my eyes.
Yes, it may imply this, since someone has added a second hair tie which I've suggested might be staging?
Coroner Meyer, Autopsy Report, Excerpt
In all probability this is a photograph of JonBenet taken at the White's Party ?
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I’m certainly no expert, but I think this “Last Photo” that John Ramsey sold shows that her hair was completely redone before her body was found. It was common for Patsy to pull her front hair into a hair tie toward the top and back of her head leaving the rest of her hair in back to fall down over her back. Several photos show that, but in all of them the hair is pulled further toward the back of her head than the way it was in the autopsy photo. Look at the following photos and get an idea where the hair ties were when it was pulled up like that.
This one the hair is pulled back almost to the back of her head:
In this one, even though her head is tilted slightly down, you can see that the hair tie again is at the back of her head:
In this one, her head is straight on at the camera and you can see the hair is pulled back, but the hair tie isn’t even visible.
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This one the hair is pulled back almost to the back of her head:
In this one, even though her head is tilted slightly down, you can see that the hair tie again is at the back of her head:
In this one, her head is straight on at the camera and you can see the hair is pulled back, but the hair tie isn’t even visible.
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Warning: autopsy photo included in this post.
Compare those photos with the one recently sold by John Ramsey. The hair is pretty much the same -- pulled back with the hair tie toward the back of her head:
But in this photo, all of the hair in front (even down to her ear) is pulled to the very top of her head directly above the ear. It’s not pulled back, it’s pulled up:
The only point of all this is that JonBenet’s hair (including the topknot) was apparently redone completely at some time after they got home. Am I right, or does anyone else see it differently?
Warning: autopsy photo included in this post.
Compare those photos with the one recently sold by John Ramsey. The hair is pretty much the same -- pulled back with the hair tie toward the back of her head:
But in this photo, all of the hair in front (even down to her ear) is pulled to the very top of her head directly above the ear. It’s not pulled back, it’s pulled up:
The only point of all this is that JonBenet’s hair (including the topknot) was apparently redone completely at some time after they got home. Am I right, or does anyone else see it differently?
s-evidence-jewelry.htm
1996-12-26: Inventory of Property removed from 755 15th Street :
Black/red/white hairtie
Blue hairtie
Hairtie
"ST: Did JonBenet normally sleep in addition to her jewelry with any hair ties in her hair.
PR: Usually, uh, a rubberband.
ST: Pulled back into a single ponytail.
PR: Back, ponytail, yeah."
p2 ""The decedent is clothed in a long sleeved whit knit collarless shirt, the mid anterior chest area of which contains an embroidered silver star decorate with silver sequins."
p4 "The scalp is covered by long blonde hair which is fixed in two ponytails, one on top of the head secured by a cloth hair tie and blue elastic band, and one in the lower back of the head secured by a blue elastic band."
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otg,
Nope it looks as if you are 100% correct. Naturally BPD know since they have the photographs from the White's Christmas Party.
Autopsy Report, Coroner Meyer, Excerpt
Confirmation will be one of those photographs showing the presence or absence of a lower back ponytail?
Her hair being swept up I've always thought was part of the staging either deliberate or accidental, i.e. a consequence of the ligature asphyxiation, consider her hair being entwined in the ligature knotting.
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To mine as well.
Tadpole12,
I'm accepting the pattern of color at the top of her head as the hairtie or bow for the ponytail, this makes sense as Coroner Meyer observes a ponytail on the top of her head, so like the White Gap Top, although I've not seen the Sequined Star, I'll accept its evidence of a ponytail
The second one, i.e. lower back of her head is more interesting though, if its missing from the White's Christmas Photographs, then its Smoking Gun time for the R's.
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Mom and grandma here. To me the hair is no big deal. Many times we pull it back even if it's already in a top ponytail to keep it from getting tangled, and easier to run a brush through it in the morning.
It's not part of the staging. Why and what would be the point?
It's not part of the staging. Why and what would be the point?