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The Lake View Police Department requests the public’s help locating a missing Sac County man. According to law enforcement, family and friends report last hearing from 53-year-old David Schultz of Wall Lake during the early morning hours of Tuesday, Nov. 21. Schultz, who is a trucker, was en route from Eagle Grove to Sac City to deliver hogs, but did not complete the delivery or pick up his next load. The semi-tractor trailer he was driving was located yesterday (Tuesday) on U.S. Highway 71 near Sac City, but there was no sign of Schultz. Law enforcement asks anyone who has seen or heard from David Schultz to contact the Lake View Police Department by calling 712-657-2513.

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Press Release
For Immediate Release
P.O.C. Sheriff Ken McClure
Date: December 9, 2023
SAC COUNTY, IOWA: November 21, 2023, at 2:23 PM, Sarah Schultz after learning that her husband David Schultz had not dropped a load of pigs off at Wieckman’s hog buying station in Sac City as scheduled that day called the Lake View Police and reported her husband missing after she was unable to make contact with him by telephone. David Schultz left his home around 7:00 PM on the evening of November 20, 2023. Schultz was scheduled to pick up a load of pigs in the Eagle Grove area and transport the pigs to Sac City.
At 3:04 PM on November 21, 2023, a Sac County Secondary Road employee reported to the Sac County Sheriff's Office that there was a semi-tractor-trailer parked on the traveled portion of the road at the intersection of D-15 (190th Street) and N-14 (Union Ave.). It was reported that this semi had been sitting there since early morning. Responding deputies determined that it was David Schultz’s. The semi was shut off, and inside deputies found David Schutlz’s wallet and cell phone. David Schultz’s driver's license was in the wallet. Investigators would later learn that nothing was missing from the wallet.
Over the next several hours, law enforcement searched the immediate area on foot and with a K-9. The Sac County Sheriff’s Office requested assistance from the Iowa State Patrol airwing unit. An airplane was dispatched from Iowa City that was equipped with forward-looking infra-red (FLIR). A state patrol pilot flew the surrounding area and did not detect a heat signature that would be consistent with a person. For the next two days, law enforcement, area firefighters, and volunteers expanded the ground search on foot and with the use of drones. Nothing of significant value was located.
Detectives from the Sac County Sheriff's Office and the Lake View Police traveled to the Eagle Grove area and with assistance from the Wright County Sheriff's Office, located the hog confinement that Schultz was scheduled to load from. Load crew members were interviewed, and load records were obtained. Investigators learned that Schultz had picked up his load but had been late to arrive and he was the last truck loaded. Schultz left at about 10:50 PM.
Investigators obtained video footage of David Schultz at 11:15 PM on November 21, 2023, at the MM126 truck stop east of Fort Dodge on Hwy 20. Schultz is there for 16 minutes before leaving the truck stop. He is then seen on a DOT camera on Hwy 20 west of MM 126 truck stop heading west. This was the last time David Schultz was seen. Cell phone data obtained from David Schult’s phone corroborates this timeline.
Cell phone data also shows investigators that Schultz travels across Hwy to the intersection of Hwy 20 & Hwy 71 junction. There was not any usable video from the DOT camera at Hwy 4 and Hwy 20, and there is no video of Schultz stopping at the truck stop at Hwy 4. Cell phone shows Schultz’s phone arrives at Hwy 20 & 71 at about 12:18 AM. The data shows the phone traveling north to where the truck was found. Data suggests the truck may have been there since 12:40 AM on November 21, 2023.
Video surveillance from an area business was obtained near Wieckman Hog Buying station. This video shows that David Schultz never made it to Wieckman’s. Law enforcement has searched for additional video footage from Eagle Grove to Fort Dodge but has not located any.
The Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation has assisted with a forensic search of David Schultz’s phone. They have also confirmed that David Schultz has not legally gone through a US Bordering Crossing. Information was received that a person named David Schultz had a one-way flight from Minneapolis to Phoenix, AZ on the late afternoon of November 21, 2023. Working with Minneapolis Airport Police and the airline, it was determined after viewing video footage of the gate and receiving ticketing information, that it was not the David Schultz that is missing. DCI continues to assist in the examination of other digital evidence that has been obtained or requested through a subpoena or search warrant.
Over 100-thousand acres have been searched by the United Cajun Navy and many volunteers. As of the time of this press release, David Schultz has not been located.
Agencies that have assisted the Sac County Sheriff’s Office, Lake View Police Dept., and Sac County Attorney’s Office are the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation, Iowa State Patrol, Wright County Sheriff’s Office, and Minneapolis, MN Police.
Anyone with any information is asked to contact the Sac County Sheriff’s Office at 712-662-7127 or your local law enforcement agency.
 
I think it's wrong to speculate this is a hoax . There is zero cause for that to even be said . We want people to be on the lookout for this man. Sometimes the best thing a person can do is not say anything if they nothing nice to say . Your words aren't helping bring him home to his family . Keep it respectful.
I have thought of this possibility too. People are allowed to express their opinions.
 
I think it's wrong to speculate this is a hoax . There is zero cause for that to even be said . We want people to be on the lookout for this man. Sometimes the best thing a person can do is not say anything if they nothing nice to say . Your words aren't helping bring him home to his family . Keep it respectful.
LE has said all options are still on the table. While it seems unlikely a hoax is what is going on here, that sort of thing does happen. Are you familiar with Shari Papini who faked her own abduction, even going to the extreme of harming herself in the process and lying about fake abductors? Sadly it happens. By us thinking about all angles doesn’t necessarily mean we think that’s what’s going on, but all angles need to be analyzed. Sometimes tossing around ideas gets you thinking about other possibilities. No one means any harm... We all want David safely home.
 
LE has said all options are still on the table. While it seems unlikely a hoax is what is going on here, that sort of thing does happen. Are you familiar with Shari Papini who faked her own abduction, even going to the extreme of harming herself in the process and lying about fake abductors? Sadly it happens. By us thinking about all angles doesn’t necessarily mean we think that’s what’s going on, but all angles need to be analyzed. Sometimes tossing around ideas gets you thinking about other possibilities. No one means any harm... We all want David safely home.
Agreed. I'd rather see this end up as a hoax than some of the alternatives. :(
 
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The LE press release indicates they investigated the possibility of David catching a flight from Minneapolis to Phoenix, which means they did consider a hoax to be a possibility.

Do I think David is alive and well? Sadly, no.

But the possibility of a hoax isn't something LE haven't mentioned themselves.
 
The LE press release indicates they investigated the possibility of David catching a flight from Minneapolis to Phoenix, which means they did consider a hoax to be a possibility.

Do I think David is alive and well? Sadly, no.

But the possibility of a hoax isn't something LE haven't mentioned themselves.
Or just a voluntary disappearance…
 
I was thinking about David today when I thought about something that happened to me this summer.

We relocated from TN to PA in July. We had our cattle moved commercially, but I hauled our horses and cats up in our living quarters horse trailer. I left our farm in TN at 6 p.m. to avoid both heat and traffic.

I needed diesel around 12:30 p.m., and got off the interstate at an exit in the middle of nowhere. There were two gas stations, not truck stops, there. The stores themselves were closed, but the pumps were open for credit card purchases. Each had four sets of pumps, two sets on each island.

I pulled into one and filled up. I did a walk around of the truck and trailer, and heard a hissing noise from my front passenger's side tire, and it went down quickly. I got in the truck and called for roadside assistance, then called my husband who was 5 hours behind me.

Roadside assistance got a hold of a contract wrecker company and called me back to let me know it would be 45 minutes to an hour until he could get to me. I decided to just stay put, and not move my truck and trailer with the flat tire, because there was still another diesel pump available if someone else pulled in and plenty of light where I sat.

I watered my horses, used the restroom in my trailer and got back in the truck to sit and wait for the wrecker. In the meantime a small beat up car with two younger men pulls into the pump opposite me on the other side, and no one gets out. And no one gets out. And no one gets out. Finally the driver gets out, walks to the pump but doesn't fuel. He then walks back to the other set of pumps on that side. But again, no pumping gas.

My wrecker driver pulls in and notices the car immediately and asks what the deal is. I tell him, and also tell him I will stand and watch them while he changes the tire. After he finishes changing my tire and we are doing the paperwork, the two men in the car pull out, and cross the road to the gas station across the street, and the entire process starts over.

Both the wrecker driver and I thought they were trying to put skimmers on the credit card readers on the pumps. They couldn't tell from where they were parked from me if I was alone or had someone else with me, so probably did not approach me because of that.

Could David have had something similar happen to him, but it went horribly wrong? Most truckers use fleet cards at truck stops, but some in the near recent past have started taking credit cards so you no longer have to walk in to the cashier. I am assuming credit cards could be skimmed at truck stop fueling stations, although fleet cards are harder to skim because they require mileage entries and sometimes a PIN number.
 
I was thinking about David today when I thought about something that happened to me this summer.

We relocated from TN to PA in July. We had our cattle moved commercially, but I hauled our horses and cats up in our living quarters horse trailer. I left our farm in TN at 6 p.m. to avoid both heat and traffic.

I needed diesel around 12:30 p.m., and got off the interstate at an exit in the middle of nowhere. There were two gas stations, not truck stops, there. The stores themselves were closed, but the pumps were open for credit card purchases. Each had four sets of pumps, two sets on each island.

I pulled into one and filled up. I did a walk around of the truck and trailer, and heard a hissing noise from my front passenger's side tire, and it went down quickly. I got in the truck and called for roadside assistance, then called my husband who was 5 hours behind me.

Roadside assistance got a hold of a contract wrecker company and called me back to let me know it would be 45 minutes to an hour until he could get to me. I decided to just stay put, and not move my truck and trailer with the flat tire, because there was still another diesel pump available if someone else pulled in and plenty of light where I sat.

I watered my horses, used the restroom in my trailer and got back in the truck to sit and wait for the wrecker. In the meantime a small beat up car with two younger men pulls into the pump opposite me on the other side, and no one gets out. And no one gets out. And no one gets out. Finally the driver gets out, walks to the pump but doesn't fuel. He then walks back to the other set of pumps on that side. But again, no pumping gas.

My wrecker driver pulls in and notices the car immediately and asks what the deal is. I tell him, and also tell him I will stand and watch them while he changes the tire. After he finishes changing my tire and we are doing the paperwork, the two men in the car pull out, and cross the road to the gas station across the street, and the entire process starts over.

Both the wrecker driver and I thought they were trying to put skimmers on the credit card readers on the pumps. They couldn't tell from where they were parked from me if I was alone or had someone else with me, so probably did not approach me because of that.

Could David have had something similar happen to him, but it went horribly wrong? Most truckers use fleet cards at truck stops, but some in the near recent past have started taking credit cards so you no longer have to walk in to the cashier. I am assuming credit cards could be skimmed at truck stop fueling stations, although fleet cards are harder to skim because they require mileage entries and sometimes a PIN number.
Thanks for sharing your experience. That is definitely weird and frightening. I’m glad you are ok and that nothing happened. I still think it is odd that his truck ended up where it did, if someone did something to him at the rest stop or shortly thereafter.
 
I was thinking about David today when I thought about something that happened to me this summer.

We relocated from TN to PA in July. We had our cattle moved commercially, but I hauled our horses and cats up in our living quarters horse trailer. I left our farm in TN at 6 p.m. to avoid both heat and traffic.

I needed diesel around 12:30 p.m., and got off the interstate at an exit in the middle of nowhere. There were two gas stations, not truck stops, there. The stores themselves were closed, but the pumps were open for credit card purchases. Each had four sets of pumps, two sets on each island.

I pulled into one and filled up. I did a walk around of the truck and trailer, and heard a hissing noise from my front passenger's side tire, and it went down quickly. I got in the truck and called for roadside assistance, then called my husband who was 5 hours behind me.

Roadside assistance got a hold of a contract wrecker company and called me back to let me know it would be 45 minutes to an hour until he could get to me. I decided to just stay put, and not move my truck and trailer with the flat tire, because there was still another diesel pump available if someone else pulled in and plenty of light where I sat.

I watered my horses, used the restroom in my trailer and got back in the truck to sit and wait for the wrecker. In the meantime a small beat up car with two younger men pulls into the pump opposite me on the other side, and no one gets out. And no one gets out. And no one gets out. Finally the driver gets out, walks to the pump but doesn't fuel. He then walks back to the other set of pumps on that side. But again, no pumping gas.

My wrecker driver pulls in and notices the car immediately and asks what the deal is. I tell him, and also tell him I will stand and watch them while he changes the tire. After he finishes changing my tire and we are doing the paperwork, the two men in the car pull out, and cross the road to the gas station across the street, and the entire process starts over.

Both the wrecker driver and I thought they were trying to put skimmers on the credit card readers on the pumps. They couldn't tell from where they were parked from me if I was alone or had someone else with me, so probably did not approach me because of that.

Could David have had something similar happen to him, but it went horribly wrong? Most truckers use fleet cards at truck stops, but some in the near recent past have started taking credit cards so you no longer have to walk in to the cashier. I am assuming credit cards could be skimmed at truck stop fueling stations, although fleet cards are harder to skim because they require mileage entries and sometimes a PIN number.
I had an entire 5 hours waiting to get my trailer tire replaced driving from MA to FL with a full load of horses. It sucks and you see all sorts of weird things over night
 
Or just a voluntary disappearance…

Sure, but a truck full of pigs was left abandoned in the middle of a road David shouldn't have been on, with his jacket, gloves and boot discarded in a ditch nearby.

I have no idea what really happened. But if it turns out David did disappear himself or harm himself, I think he must have wanted to make it *look* like something was done to him by a third party. At least allow his family the belief that he'd never do this by choice.

If by some chance he's alive and did this by choice (which I don't believe is the case), it feels like it must have been intended to mislead. And that's the very definition of a hoax.
 
Sure, but a truck full of pigs was left abandoned in the middle of a road David shouldn't have been on, with his jacket, gloves and boot discarded in a ditch nearby.

I have no idea what really happened. But if it turns out David did disappear himself or harm himself, I think he must have wanted to make it *look* like something was done to him by a third party. At least allow his family the belief that he'd never do this by choice.

If by some chance he's alive and did this by choice (which I don't believe is the case), it feels like it must have been intended to mislead. And that's the very definition of a hoax.
I see what you mean. A voluntary disappearance could be quiet, no clues. We have a few weird clues which leans toward a staged scene IF indeed this was voluntary.
 
I have thought of this possibility too. People are allowed to express their opinions.
Yup, it’s one of the possibilities after all, and god knows we’ve seen that sort of thing happen quite a bit on here.

I remember one case where a missing woman was allegedly engaged in a gun battle with an assailant at her remote cabin. The scene didn’t make sense at all, and I took some heat for speculating that she may have been high on something like meth.

When her body was found in water several months later, she did in fact test positive for methamphetamine.

In that case it wasn’t an intentional hoax, but it wasn’t a crime either.

Here, we have a few possibilities:

Foul Play
Voluntary disappearance
Some sort of misadventure
Suicide

I think everything is on the table at this point.
 
Can someone please link the info about the boot. I have been looking my booty off and can not find. Help. So this is going to probably not make sense, but I think something happened to him before those pigs were even loaded. Here me out...I know LE says they have video of David at the truck stop. But everything this evening and early morning says this is not David driving his own truck. He's running late. David abandoned his semi. His coat outside in a ditch. Was it normal for David to pull off that late at night to do something for 16 minutes. I would like to know. The very end of the press conference, LE says video shows David didn't make it to his drop off sight. Well, of course not..The truck didn't make it either. Maybe LE is playing on words. Did videoes really show David, or just the truck. I don't think David was driving his truck at all. Just my opinion. I have so many questions.
 
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