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I really think it was because she was going to fail them, and they would have done it if that teacher had been a white man, a black woman, an Asian woman, etc.
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Students say murdered Spanish teacher, student argued over grades
11/5/21
Sawyer Mast took her class last year.
"Not all of us liked Spanish two or three," Mast said. "It was a hard class. But she was, in reality, probably one of the best teachers we had because she held you to her standards, and that was good for her."
He's one of several students KCCI spoke to who knew Graber and the two students now charged with her murder: Jeremy Goodale, 16, and Willard "Chaiden" Miller, 16.
"Having known Chaiden, having him in my class, he did speak, not in a murderous way, but in a very aggressive way for dislike toward Ms. Graber," Mast said.
A couple of students told KCCI they heard an argument Tuesday afternoon about trying to get a grade up in Graber's class. Not long after that, police said that same student went to Chautauqua Park where Graber was known to go for walks.
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According to court documents, Goodale posted details about planning the killing and a possible motive on social media. Police said they found clothing that appeared to have blood at the homes of the teens.
Court documents state Miller admitted to being at the park with Garber was killed and helped to conceal her death.
Assistant Jefferson County Attorney Patrick J. McAvan said Friday that many people are asking if this is a racially motivated crime. “We do not have any evidence at this point that suggests that,” he said.
Authorities have not released a motive.
I disagree. These guys acted on somebody they knew they could overpower.I really think it was because she was going to fail them, and they would have done it if that teacher had been a white man, a black woman, an Asian woman, etc.
I don't think a kid randomly wakes up one day and plots to, and then murders their teacher without some predictive behavior throughout their life.
I could be wrong of course, but I'd like to better understand these two, and understand how they got to this place.
Great insights! Thank you. Your comments reminded me of the two english girls from the late 50's, early 60's who murdered. Can't remember their names. Famous case of murder and folie a deux.Some severe perpatrators dont show red flag warning signs.
For example, these two teens accused of double murder in the course of a very badly conceived robbery did not display warning signs either. In contrast, the presumed leader had been identified as having good potential.
Suspect pleads guilty to murder in deaths of UW professor, husband at Arboretum
In the end, sometimes two perpetrators can "feed off each other" and commit horrific crimes that neither would commit if required to act alone. Mob violence works the same way as each perpetrator can be either directly or indirectly encouraged by others to commit acts that they would not have done individually.
Likewise, perpertrators can also be seeking to please or impress the other participant in regards to a criminal duo, or group of perpetrators in regards to mobs.
Great insights! Thank you. Your comments reminded me of the two english girls from the late 50's, early 60's who murdered. Can't remember their names. Famous case of murder and folie a deux.
Amateur opinion and speculation
Or maybe Pauline Parker and Juliet Hulme (aka Anne Perry) ?I think Mary Bell and Norma Bell (not related to each other).
Or maybe Pauline Parker and Juliet Hulme (aka Anne Perry) ?
Murdered Pauline's mother, Honora Rieper.
www.amazon.com/Perry-Murder-Century-
Wonder if one of Nohema's killers was inspired by the other ?
Still, no excuse as we all have a choice.
Is it possible that if N.G's murderers claim a botched robbery that they think they'll have a lighter sentence than a homicide inspired by anger over failing grades ?
What a completely idiotic reason to kill over and throw away their lives.
Hoping they're both sentenced to the maximum allowed.
From reading other cases here at WS, beating (if she was beaten to death) is an up close and personal way to kill, much like stabbing.
So much rage inflicted on this poor woman !
Imo.
^^rsbbm"Having known Chaiden, having him in my class, he did speak, not in a murderous way, but in a very aggressive way for dislike toward Ms. Graber," Mast said.