Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #24

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In a roundabout way he is comparing himself to Lehi, one of the key prophets in the Book of Mormon. That seems the opposite of humble. Sorry didn’t attach the quote from Chad’s writing about Tammy and how he said she said “she felt like Sariah”. Also he continues to talk about himself in regards to Tammy. He’s supposedly paying a tribute to her but he’s talking about himself. My husband passed away 10 years ago when he was fairly young in an accident. I can’t imagine speaking about him in this way.
 
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We've discussed Lori's possible defense (fighting custody blah blah). BUT I'm curious as to her defense regarding nonsupport of her dependent children? She receives financial assistance for the care of these children. Very soon she will have to prove how the money has been spent.

Will she claim she hands baggies of cash to unknown secret people who then transport that money to the unknown secret caretakers of the children?!? This argument is ridiculous! And no judge will believe it. jmo
 
Alpha Bravo said:
I'm guessing the delay to extradite may be to give time to prepare additional charges - against Lori but perhaps Chad as well... to ensure that bail is high enough that they can't cut the nut.
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I agree. From what I understand, they can leave Lori in Hawaii for up to 90 days before they have to extradite her. She is not allowed to post bail in Hawaii now that she agreed to be extradited. As soon as she is returned to Idaho there will be another hearing where Lori's ID attorney tries to reduce her bail. It makes good strategic sense to leave her there as long as possible while they build a case for additional charges, thus ensuring when she is returned the $5 Million bail will stay and she won't be free. I hope they are working on getting Chad arrested too but just keeping Lori in jail longer will keep him manageable IMHO-- he's shown he is loyal to his new wife and he's not going anywhere. And in the mean time, Chad might inadvertently point the FBI to even more incriminating evidence. MOO.
 
MimosaMornings said:
I don’t even know what to think.
CV thought Lori was going to kill him so he changed his beneficiaries? Was he constantly looking over his shoulder living with her?
It’s just crazy.
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Lori straight up told Charles she would kill him if he got in her way. This noted in legal docs in his divorce petition. What surprises me is that he didn't demand to meet her either on the street or in a public place. I'm pretty sure she lured him into the house, it's unfortunate he went in.
 
fred&edna said:
We've discussed Lori's possible defense (fighting custody blah blah). BUT I'm curious as to her defense regarding nonsupport of her dependent children? She receives financial assistance for the care of these children. Very soon she will have to prove how the money has been spent.

Will she claim she hands baggies of cash to unknown secret people who then transport that money to the unknown secret caretakers of the children?!? This argument is ridiculous! And no judge will believe it. jmo
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good point...

Lori Vallow's charges explained - Local News 8
 
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diggndeeperstill said:
Parrett also wrote to KSL TV that he has no desire for AVOW to become a focal point but finds himself as one of the only people willing to stand up for Daybell and Vallow.

“I just find myself in the position of being one of the only people out there that has been willing to stand up and ask people to be patient and allow Chad & Lori’s side of the story to come forth in do time,” Parrett said. “AVOW ‘might’ have significant additional background material to share at the same time as well.”

These are quotes or statements from Parrett to KSLtv. I wanted to find what he says outside of his forum. Now my questions are:

Ok, why do we think Parrett is standing up for him? What does he have to gain from doing that?
Does standing up for them financially affect him? How? Is it subscribers? Is he hoping to build a “conspiracy theory” mindset to eventually sell more books and subscribers ? Is he involved somehow?
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Admirable quality, Parrett. Backing a friend in trouble. But 6 MONTHS is too long to be patient with either of them. Sorry. The family which is desperately seeking to find the children deserves immediate answers. No one really cares about religion, doomsday, coffee, Hawaii, temple, clothes, blah blah blah or any other side trails. Where are the kids? Chad when speaking to a TOTAL stranger at the donation site seems to think it’s not that simple. Ok. LE wants to help make it simple. Now the FBI does, too. KISS is a well know acronym.
WHERE ARE THE CHILDREN?
And while we are at it, what’s up with Tammy, Mr. Ryan, C. Vallow, Alex?
Or will those in power cover all of this up? Those of us outside of this tight community can see clearly that it’s all connected. And Lori is in the center.
 
MimosaMornings said:
I don’t even know what to think.
CV thought Lori was going to kill him so he changed his beneficiaries? Was he constantly looking over his shoulder living with her?
It’s just crazy.
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I think Charles' June 29th email to Adam reveals a lot about what he was thinking about Lori:
Chandler PD confirms investigation into an email from Charles Vallow before his death

Charles seemed to believe she was having a mental health crisis and he originally wanted to help her. He thought he could do it through communication with her family members about what was going on. If it's true that Lori knew Charles was talking to Adam then Adam likely contacted Lori to confront her about it. I believe once the fake letter came to light CV probably moved to the hotel. A hotel employee said he had been living there for weeks. He was probably telling Lori he was "done" and would be refiling divorce proceedings. July 10th He contacted their landlord and asked to meet to discuss getting a different place because it wasn't working out with Lori. Plus Charles was threatening to tell Chad's wife about the fake email and that he thought Lori and Chad were having an affair. Charles became a major threat to Lori and Chad at that point, even though he was pulling away from her (living in a hotel and looking to get another rental, etc). He might not have been aware of how threatened they would feel and how they would react since he only had suspicions of an affair. I've always found it suspicious that Lori made a point of telling Chandler PD after Charles was dead that SHE told Charles he couldn't stay there. But I think that was a lie to go along with her false accusations that Charles was abusive. I think Charles was taking actions to try to protect himself while simultaneously trying to get JJ out of there and get Lori mental health help. It's beyond tragic that Charles couldn't get away from Lori fast enough. I beleive he wouldn't have even gone to the house that morning if it wasn't for JJ. :( MOO.
 
Ohmeohmy said:
iCourt Portal - Online records & payments for the Idaho courts
Case Information

CR33-20-0302 | State of Idaho Plaintiff, vs. Lori Norene Vallow Defendant.

  • 03/02/2020 Administrative Order

  • 03/03/2020 Order

    Comment
    Governing Courtroom Conduct
@Gardener1850 Is this new? This think so with it being TODAY
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Yes, I think so. The next thing I have is a status hearing on 3/4*.
Perhaps the extradition order from the governor has come through today?
MOO.

*ETA: To clarify, I'm referring to the status hearing for the Idaho custody case of Joshua filed by the Woodcocks in January, not the status hearing for Lori's extradition. Both of those status hearings were set to be on March 4th but I see now that the Woodcock's March 4th hearing was vacated (canceled) and also that case is separate in Idaho courts from the criminal case against Lori.
 
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nhmemorymaker said:
Someone did have to get LE to consider the exhumtion. Those decisions are not made lightly. WHO did make that case? I always thought it was Tammy's relatives... does anyone know for certain?
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Hope FBI can pull in it’s own toxicology lab specialists. They’d be in a much better position to find poisons or other toxins that are off grid. Frogs from the Amazon jungles, for example. Native American medicinal and herbal knowledge.
And FBI has a little more clout, I’d say, over the local coroner who has little to no medical background. A political elected official.
Yes, the FBI has come in to clean up the mess Lori and Chad got themselves into. Tax dollars well spent.
Thank you FBI.
 
Ohmeohmy said:
I want someone to pull this whole statement apart from a psychological standpoint. What is he really saying? I read this and it makes me fume. MOO
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Just the headings of “Moving into second half of my life” and “Stepping into the future” sounds like his past life with Tammy is an afterthought. Like, oh well that’s the past and into the future with Lori. I think he had already moved on at least in his mind if not in real life with Lori long before Tammy “unexpectedly” died. Due to that I can’t see how Tammy’s death wasn’t premeditated and that he wasn’t a part of it. MOO
 
Gardener1850 said:
Yes, I think so. The next thing I have is a status hearing on 3/4.
Perhaps the extradition order from the governor has come through today?
MOO.
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That is coming from the Idaho Court site. Not sure what the order is about. But if I had to hazard a guess it is an order related to media coverage in the courtroom.

ETA: An extradition warrant from the Governor of Idaho isn't required since Lori waived extradition which releases the State of Idaho and the State of Hawaii from their requirements under extradition law. (Both Idaho and Hawaii have enacted the Uniform Criminal Extradition Act within their statutes).
 
nhmemorymaker said:
Every time I see the "anti government" slant of our conversations, my mind keeps going back to Lori's parents and their constant battles with government. Years and years of stuff---so I feel pretty sure there are contacts and people "out there" who are truly "secret", and are much further from the mainstream press than AVOW and the newer anti groups. Have always thought that if there was a "safe hiding place" it would not be through AVOW. That said, I truly truly hope that the one Cox voice that could be different--Adam, will speak up eventually.

There was a surge of far-out religious movements-- leaders, holy-rollers, beliefs, and followers in the late 1800s, and many were NY and New England born. Shakers, Quakers, Christ Scientists, Jahovah's Witnesses, LDS were the more obvious ones...but many little loose cannons were developed as well. It has always been interesting how LDS just got stronger and kept moving west, while the others pretty much fizzled.
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Not a researcher, by any means, but when you refuse blood transfusions and modern medicine to save lives, that kind of cuts down your chances of spreading your religion: JH.
And one of the groups, Quakers or Shakers, led separated lives. Men apart from women. Separate church pews, separate living quarters. Again, tough to grow your religion if your population doesn’t grow, too. LDS on the other hand, listened to “Go West, young man!” Took on multiple wives. In those years, many, many women died during child birth. LDS generally adopted ideas to promote their growth and influence. From my understanding, if you’re not LDS, in predominantly LDS areas, salaries, promotions, other opportunities do not come your way if you are outside the teachings of LDS.
Joseph Smith, Jr., I think was a great showman. Orator. Leader. If SLC citizens knew a group of its members were trekking across the Great Plains in the middle of winter and did not arrive on time, LDS members would head east in search of them. I have not read of many accounts of other religious groups doing the same. Missionaries, yes. And “Dr. Livingston, I presume?” But to send out search parties for the general public/pioneers that headed West?
No, I’m not LDS. Just some information stored in my head.
 
Ohmeohmy said:
IDAHO

iCourt Portal - Online records & payments for the Idaho courts
Case Information

CR33-20-0302 | State of Idaho Plaintiff, vs. Lori Norene Vallow Defendant.

  • 03/02/2020 Administrative Order

  • 03/03/2020 Order

    Comment
    Governing Courtroom Conduct
@Gardener1850 Is this new? This think so with it being TODAY

Edit to add state this link is from. IDAHO
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Case is: State of Idaho Plaintiff, vs. Lori Norene VALLOW Defendant. So, Lori and Chad were not legally married? Perhaps this has been discussed and I missed the threads. Or, because the first offense was prior to their marriage?
 
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