Shamrock5374
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Ok I had a blonde moment...The Illinois River is the river that borders Oglesbury. Sorry about that was being very spacey...
Shamrock5374
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Timeline might be a little off, unless the run-off-with-hippies theory was true. UID boy found in LA after a suicide and a note was found. From my pov the personalities of both Dermot and the UID are quite similar.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32202
Originally Posted by Cubby
A call to the LaSalle County sheriffs office led to the following info.
The detective I spoke with believes Dermot was ruled out as one of the remaining unidentified victims of Gacy. He didn't have the file in front of him, but his recollection was that Dermot was compared and ruled out.
He also let me know Dermot was compared to a then unidentified man who was involved in a train wreck in Wisconsin. I could not find a still unidentified male who matched that description at Doenetwork, so perhaps there is no file online -or- that person has since been identified.
There is a possibility Dermot drowned as LE's investigation led to finding some foot prints that led to a river area - he did not indicate which river.
I have a call into the Cook County medical examiners office to inquire if there is a list of rule outs for the unidentified victims of Gacy. I'm hoping for a call back, if not I will try again in a few days.
I have not made contact with the detective since that initial inquiry some time ago. Real life has me a bit busy these days so if you wish to make contact to ask those questions, perhaps getting an email for the detective and passing along a list of those questions please do so!
A call to the LaSalle County sheriffs office led to the following info.
The detective I spoke with believes Dermot was ruled out as one of the remaining unidentified victims of Gacy. He didn't have the file in front of him, but his recollection was that Dermot was compared and ruled out.
He also let me know Dermot was compared to a then unidentified man who was involved in a train wreck in Wisconsin. I could not find a still unidentified male who matched that description at Doenetwork, so perhaps there is no file online -or- that person has since been identified.
There is a possibility Dermot drowned as LE's investigation led to finding some foot prints that led to a river area - he did not indicate which river.
I have a call into the Cook County medical examiners office to inquire if there is a list of rule outs for the unidentified victims of Gacy. I'm hoping for a call back, if not I will try again in a few days.
Search, the Illinois river is the closest to where Dermot went missing. If you do a goggle map, street view not satellite view, of Ogles by you'll see there are three State Parks in the area. The most popular being Starved Rock state park. Non satellite view will give you an idea of the enormity of the state parks in the area and how much undeveloped land, and area's that people might not travel. Now granted in January there would be no leaves on the trees, but they are so heavy I don't know if that would have impaired a search in any way....
A few weeks ago I took my son and a friend of his to a water park very near Starved Rock. We hiked a few miles along the marked trail. There were numerous signs everywhere indicating how dangerous it could be to not stay on the trail. Having been there finally for the first time, gave me a much better idea of just how much area a search would have encompassed and how someone could be missed during a search.
I do hope the answers to Dermot's disappearance come one day, hopefully sooner than later. If he is out there somewhere I hope he knows it's never too late to come forward. Even if it is just letting LE know he is alive and well, his location and current information can remain private if he so wishes.
Thanks Cobby for your kindness and thoughts about Dermot's case.
Every time I think about that very sad day that Dermot left home with no clues to his whereabouts, about a month ago, I was thinking about the weather on that day. Below is a link to a weather history almanac, and I remember typing in the zip code for Ogelsby and getting some weather information.
I got this weather data from the site below:
http://www.farmersalmanac.com/weather-history/
On January 30th, 1972, the closest available weather station to Ogles by, IL (PEORIA GREATER PEORIA AP, IL), reported the following conditions:
High Temp: 12.9F
Low Temp: 0F
Average Temp: 7.2F
Dewpoint: -1.4F
Wind Speed: 8.3 Knots
Precipitation Amount: 0 Inches
Snow Depth: n/a
Observations: n/a
See more historical weather results for Ogles by, IL
With a high temp of just over 12 degrees and only a jacket and a rifle, (assuming the weather data is correct) I just could not see Dermot surviving for very long with no food, extra clothing, weather, or lodgings. A freezing temp is 32 degrees. And we know he had a gun. If Dermot hitchhiked, who would pick up a hitchhiker with a gun? If Dermot bought bus fare, to anywhere, he wouldn't be allowed on a bus with a rifle.
Was carrying the rifle a ploy? In which case he hid it somewhere? Than hitchhiked or boarded a bus to let's say go to California to join the hippie movement. About a year and a half ago, a relative of Dermot's did post here saying that they believe Dermot may have left home to join the hippie movement. If he had planned to do that, where were his food, clothes, other belongings that he would have needed for such a long journey? The family claimed that Dermot could have done this, because they said he had friends who did the same thing, or maybe talked about doing the same thing. Who were those people? Where are they now? How well did they know Dermot? I think someone out there knows or knew Dermot's plans. I am not saying they know where he might have gone. Although, they certainly COULD have known. Dermot may not have had many friends as a loner-type, philosophical person. However, he was reported to be a great listener. He must of had SOMEONE with whom he confided before he left home.
This is a very intelligent kid. This does not strike me as someone who would leave home on the spur of the moment. I think Dermot thought about this for a very, very, long time. Months, to perhaps years. What about phone records as evidence? Were there any calls made to say California, or other out of state areas on the Kelly's phone bill for the previous month, or the month of January? If the family did not know other people out of state, but those calls appeared, Dermot would have likely made those calls to perhaps plan his new life.
However, even under all these sets of circumstances, we still have a gentlemen who left home with no explanation, without any traveling necessities, or means of survival in cold weather over the long haul. There are many painful pieces of the puzzle in the Dermot Kelly case that have been missing for years!
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