kittythehare
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thanks for doing all that..
thanks for doing all that..
It's available as of today on Hulu.20/20: Undercover Girlfriend Watch Full Episode | 2019-11-12
Looks like you'll be able to watch this online in about a week.
There was tape, by the way, of YY chasing after the bus she missed… so heartbreaking that but for a missed bus, and a missed campus alert going out warning of a guy in black vehicle trying to pick up females, this never would’ve happened. So many if-onlys.... (if counseling center had acted differently, if Michelle hadn't sought a divorce, if BC had never gotten involved on FetLife...).
Emily Hogan didn't call this in to UIPD, she called it in to Urbana PD. It happened a few blocks off campus. So the campus police had no idea it happened on the day it happened, and would not have been able to put out some sort of alert. From what I understand, Urbana PD informed UIPD of this incident a couple of days after YY was kidnapped. Even if they had put out some sort of alert, there is no guarantee that Yingying would have even seen it.
I will watch this later this week. IF there is any bit of information that stands out to me as something new, I will be sure to comment on it.
I'm not looking forward to it. From what I understand, some of the clips they show of YY's life before this will only make you feel more sad and livid about what happened to her
We discussed and shared that info in either first or 2nd or third thread here. If anybody knows how to search them?Emily Hogan didn't call this in to UIPD, she called it in to Urbana PD. It happened a few blocks off campus. So the campus police had no idea it happened on the day it happened, and would not have been able to put out some sort of alert. From what I understand, Urbana PD informed UIPD of this incident a couple of days after YY was kidnapped. Even if they had put out some sort of alert, there is no guarantee that Yingying would have even seen it.
I will watch this later this week. IF there is any bit of information that stands out to me as something new, I will be sure to comment on it.
I'm not looking forward to it. From what I understand, some of the clips they show of YY's life before this will only make you feel more sad and livid about what happened to her
When I was looking around this area on street view, I came across the Terminal I believe it was stated early on that her phone pinged at the Terminal, shortly after she was abducted, based on a text being received from the person she was scheduled to meet. This certainly could be where he disabled her to get her in the duffle bag.Yes, immediately west of the tracks and immediately north of Bradley. Neighborhood bound by Roper on the north, N Chestnut on the east, Bradley on the south and N. Market on the west. Old run down neighborhood that was at that time being cleared out to make room for a new housing development. That would make the most sense to me for him to pull in there and attack her. It isn't that far away from One North, and to keep her from getting suspicious and panicking, he can say that he's pulling in to that area to turn around and go back. With no one living there at the time, he could have been far enough away from Bradley to keep anyone from seeing what he was doing. Or, he could have knocked her out in the car somehow on the way, then pulled in there to bind her and stuff her in the bag without anyone seeing. There are also some semi-obscured areas off of N Market heading south back toward downtown that he could have pulled into; areas that are used by CN to access the railroad tracks. They are gravel roadways and are somewhat obscured by brush. Only problem is that the further and further away he gets from One North, you would think the more suspicious she would become and she would panic. A problem unless, again, he knocked her out somehow while driving.
S. Chestnut is one of those disjointed streets that you often find in downtown areas. It is broken up, and to get to that exact location where the ping was, you can't just drive directly south on that street. I don't have the map in front of me, but he would have to go south from Bradley on one of two or three streets, and make a couple of turns to get there. It is kind of a relatively dead urban area, but I don't know why he would choose there to dispose of her phone. Maybe he heard her phone chiming, he panicked a bit, and just found a spot where no one was around and chucked it out after removing the sim card -or he threw out the sim card and kept the phone; I can't remember if he mentioned her phone as one of the belongings he threw away on Monday when he disposed of her clothes and other belongings with the green duffle bag. IF he did go back on Monday, I would assume it would be to look for the phone. A phone might be easily found by people searching the area, so it would make sense for him to go back and look for it.
Another issue is the resolution of the GPS. The report from ATT regarding her phone location (in PDF #4 of the UIPD FOIA stuff) mentions a resolution of 200 meters. I took that to mean that the phone could have been anywhere within 200 meters of the location tagged as the source of the ping. IF I am reading that right, then it means that he could have been near that location, but on the other side of the tracks. Reports again from the UIPD FOIA stuff mention that Stiverson (and others I think) searched the area on south Chestnut where the ping was located, but it makes no mention of searching on the east side of the tracks opposite of South Chestnut.
I don't remember the exact location in the FOIA PDFs where all this is detailed -including the part about his phone pinging there on Monday. I think it is in documents 3 and 4, but I can't remember.
What wooded area are you speaking of? Just curious..<modsnip: quoted post was removed>
Most of this area is rural jungle and frozen over for over 1/4th of the entire year. The wooded area behind BC's apartment alone could take a month to search, especially 2.5 years after this crime has been committed. So what I'm asking from anyone here who cares to help is a two sentence summary of several years of threads on this site so I can focus my efforts on a handful of places worth checking out in my spare time. I still give it a less than 1% chance of yielding anything, but what could it hurt?
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Unless I completely misunderstood, she (Emily) placed a warning message (the show showed the message) on some sort of social media (but perhaps it was just FB; I had impression it was campus social media?) a few hrs. after it occurred (saying, 'this morning I was approached....', or some such) addressing it to all U of I students, but not in time for YY to have seen it by 1 pm. Anyway, it'll clarify when you see it, if I got it wrong.
And yeah, the early clips of YY (and other clips as well) are livid-producing!
When I was looking around this area on street view, I came across the Terminal I believe it was stated early on that her phone pinged at the Terminal, shortly after she was abducted, based on a text being received from the person she was scheduled to meet. This certainly could be where he disabled her to get her in the duffle bag.
What wooded area are you speaking of? Just curious..
Don't know how much new we will learn, or when this will happen, but short news piece on Zhang case from couple of days ago says “the judge has made an order to unseal all remaining documents in the interest of the public.”
Documents in the Yingying Zhang case to be unsealed
I don't think that is new. They are just now getting around to reporting the ruling Shadid made at the beginning of the month. If you look at courtlistener, all the previously sealed documents have now been unsealed -except for those he exempts in his ruling. I haven't been able to look at them, because they are behind their paywall -but I don't think they will supply a lot of new info, now that the trial is concluded.
yeah that’s what I had thought, but the article specifically states, “Never-before-seen documents will soon be unsealed to the public,” and seemed odd they’d be reporting it this late… but then it's Fox News and very brief, and I don’t see anyone else reporting it, so good chance you’re right!