IN - Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #164

[Falling Down]

It's not lost on me that RA's mental decline, temper tantrum (destroying his computer, etc) and confessions to his wife and mother over the phone came right after his DT dropped 1,000 pages of discovery on him.

The phone transcripts were not included that I saw. I was really shocked at all the items they collected from the Search Warrant on his home and autos. Wow.

MOO

My hunch is he got frustrated once that happened, now that he has confessed he's sleeping and eating.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

This link suggests there was a plan by a pedi ring to kidnap and the RA was a member of the ring: Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen admitted to killings FIVE TIMES

....and a sock...

 

[girlhasnoname]

Apologies if this has been posted…

CourtTV reporting that RA admitted to killing Abby & Libby in phone conversation with his wife.

and to his mother according to the newly released docs.

 

[gregjrichards]

For those having issues reading docs:
Here is the property receipt of items collected from 1967 Whiteman Dr. Delphi, Indiana and from the car acquired at that property.

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MC8 Sealed cardboard box containing one black Sig Sauer P226 .40 Calmer handgun. Serial Number U625627.

MC9 Sealed plastic bag containing one .40 caliber S&W cartridge found in wooden keepsake box on dresser between both closets in master bedroom.

MC10 Sealed plastic bag containing one .40 caliber S&W cartridge found inside Sig Sauer P226 handgun

MC11 Sealed plastic bag containing two magazines, one filled with nine .40 caiiber cartridges and one
with eight .40 caliber cartridges.

MC12 Sealed paper bag containing one black Sig Sauer handgun case containing one trigger lock with two keys.

MC13 Sealed paper bag containing a papa: wrapped wooden weave box containing two 'Audiovox" device. one siiver Motoroia flip phone MSN:86530XP771, one siiver Motoroia flip phone MSNfloSBDXPGZi, 4 car chargers, three wall outlet chargers

MC14 Sealed plastic bag containing one Lexar compact flash 1 GB memory card.

DRV104 Sealed paper bag containing one pair of dirty Thorogood boots size 7.5 mens.

DRV105 Sealed paper bag containing one pair of dirty black boots, size 6.5 regular

DRV106 Sealed envelope containing one silver double edged knife in a silver metal sheath.

DRV107 Sealed envelope containing one brown gold and silver folding knife.

DRV108 Sealed envelope containing black sheath containing one brown gold and silver folding knife.

DRV109 Sealed envelope containing one black sheath containing one black handled silver bladed imperial knife.

DRV110 Sealed envelope one black sheath containing one fold'able knife with a red! gold handle.

DRV111 Sealed envelope one sheath containing two Ozark Trail knives.

DRV112 Sealed envelope one black sheath containing one knife with a wood! ivory handle and gold guard.

DRV113 Sealed envelope containing one rusted "Old Timer' folding knife, one 'Sharp' 2 bladed folding I knife, one black folding "Gerber" knife, and one black folding knife.

DRV114 Sealed envelope containing one red handled' Crosley" multi-tool, one blue multi-tool, one green I and gold lndiana National Guard multi-tool. and one black multi~tool.

DRV115 Sealed envelope containing one black sheath containing a brown handled, silver bladed "Sabre" bowie knife.

DRV116 Sealed paper bag containing one blue jacket with red stripes- ADiDAS.

DRV117 Sealed paper bag containing one blue 1/4 zip sweatshirt.

DRV118 Sealed paper bag containing one black and green 'FOX' hooded sweatshirt.

DRV119 Sealed paper bag containing one black and gray "North End" coat.

DRV120 Sealed paper bag containing one blue 'Carhartt" coat

DRV121 Sealed paper bag containing one pair timberland boots. Size 8.

DRV122 Sealed paper bag containing one pair of blue "Arizona" jeans size 34x29

DRV123 Sealed paper bag containing one pair of blue "Arizona" jeans size 34x29.

DRV124 Sealed paper bag containing one pair of blue "Arizona" jeans size 34X29

DRV12S Sealed paper bag containing one pair of blue Levi Strauss jeans size 34x29

DRV126 Sealed paper bag containing one pair of blue Levi Strauss jeans size 34x29

DRV127 Sealed paper bag containing one winter gray hat with fur like fibers.

DRV128 Sealed paper bag containing one black and red "UFC" hooded sweatshirt with a full zip.

DRV129 Sealed paper bag containing one 1/4 zip "George" sweatshirt.

DRV139 Sealed paper bag containing one black/blue 1/4 zip 'Waimart" sweatshirt.

DRV131 Sealed paper bag containing one blue "George" sweatshirt, U4 Zip.

DRV132 Sealed paper bag containing one blue "Kenneth Cole" sweatshirt.

DRV133 Sealed paper bag containing one blue "Fruit of the Loom" sweatshirt.

DRV134 Sealed 'paper bag containing one blue "Starter" sweatshirt.

DRV135 Sealed paper bag containing one black "Spider" hooded sweatshirt.

DRV136 Sealed paper bag containing one blue sweatshirt with an old label.

DRV137 Sealed paper bag containing one blue Adidas sweatshirt.

DRV138 Sealed paper bag containing one brown fitted cap with a small bill.

DRV139 Sealed paper bag containing one black WRI stocking cap, one black 'NASCAR' Ford Racing stocking cap, one black "ADiDAS" stocking cap, one red/white, and gray/brown Canada stocking cap.

DRV140 Sealed paper bag containing one gray and black "ADIDAS" skull cap

DRV141 Sealed paper bag containing one gray and white NFL Colts skuil cap

DRV142 Sealed paper bag containing one brown Carhartt stocking cap.

DRV143 Sealed paper bag containing ten pairs of gloves and 1 extra giove.

DRV144 Sealed paper bag containing one blue fabric strap, and one blue/green fabric strap/

DRV14S Sealed cardboard box containing one HP laptop Serial: CN3051 i779

DRV146 Sealed cardboard box containing one HP Pavilion Laptop Serial: CNF7496KTS

DRV147 Sealed paper bag containing one plastic bag containing multiple headbands.

DRV148
Sealed paper bag containing one cardboard phone box containing misc cellular information

DRV149 Sealed paper bag containing one Winchester Supreme Elite empty ammo box.

DRV150 Sealed envelope containing one smaller envelope containing one cruzer micro 268 flash drive with Rick on the back.

DRV151 Sealed envelope containing a 1TB western digital hardrive.

DRV152 Sealed envelope containing one Samsung phone in a floral case.

DRV153 Sealed envelope containing miniature katana with a red tassel.

DRV154 Sealed envelope containing one black sheath and one Rapala filet knife from garage.

DRV155 Sealed envelope containing one black sheath and one "The Best Defense' knife from garage.

DRV156 Sealed envelope containing one black external hard drive and cord. Serial WX20A99F4518.

DRV157 Sealed envelope containing one smaller envelope containing one black lPod serial 716016DTJT.

DRV158 Sealed envelope containing one smaller envelope containing one 32MB 50 card and one 256MB I SD card.

DRV159 Sealed cardboard box containing one black sheath with an animal imprinted on the front and one I large wooden handled knife with a rusted blade from garage.

DRV160 Sealed paper bag containing five miscellaneous vehicle chargers.

DRV161 Sealed paper bag containing nine miscellaneous wall outletchargers.

DRV162 Sealed paper bag containing miscellaneous phone accessories.

DRV163 Sealed paper bag containing one HP laptop charger.

DRV164 Sealed paper bag containing two pagers, one black and one blue.

DRV165 Sealed paper bag containing three Motorola and one LG flip phones.

DRV166 Sealed envelope containing one LG Verizon smart phone.

DRV167 Sealed paper bag containing one cardboard box containing one LG Verizon side slide smart phone.

DRV168 Sealed envelope containing one Motorola Verizon smart phone.

DRV169 Sealed envelope containing three older cell phones. one Aodiovox, one Nokia, and one Motorola.

DRV170 Sealed paper bag containing one cardboard box containing one Nokia 7705 Twist cell phone and documents.

DRV171 Sealed cardboard Garmin box containing one Garmin StreetPliot c340 device, two cords, and I documentation.

DRV172 Sealed cardboard box containing a plastic bag containing a custom vehicle operations motorcycle cover bag containing a motorcycle cover.

DRV173 Sealed manila envelope containing a black Pixel 3a XL cellphone MEiD 35964309505164 with a black Otterbox case

DRV174 Sealed manila envelope containing a black Samsung Galaxy A42 56 Serial Number: RSCRSONHEA with a brown case

DRV175 Sealed paper bag containing a sealed paper bag sealed by Steve Mullin containing one Aquafina water bottle

DRV176
Sealed manila envelope containing a silver, LG, Cingular wireless flip phone

MC15 Sealed envelope containing a cutting of a carpeted area underneath the spare tire of the Ford Focus.

MC16 Sealed envelope containing two plastic wrappers containing one swab from a driver lap belt and one swab of the driver shoulder belt of the Ford Focus.

MC17 Sealed envelope containing two plastic wrappers containing two swabs from the passenger side carpeted floor boards.

RA’s house went up for sale on Zillow yesterday for $254,900. Most of the furniture including a master queen bed, sofas, recliners and lots of other items are included in the sale. I don’t know how long it may take to sell but I hope it doesn’t end up being an airbnb for fans of true crime.

 

[livstabler]

<modsnip> the phone was found under Libby's body. Has anyone read that in the docs? I didn't see it. If so, that answers our questions about where the phone was found

 

[arielilane]

NEW INFORMATION: Investigators say the suspect, Richard Allen, admitted to the murders during a phone call with his wife. http://bit.ly/3pu69dK

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674160202545876993

https://twitter.com/WFLA

 

[girlhasnoname]

RA’s house went up for sale on Zillow yesterday for $254,900. Most of the furniture including a master queen bed, sofas, recliners and lots of other items are included in the sale. I don’t know how long it may take to sell but I hope it doesn’t end up being an airbnb for fans of true crime.

Sadly I know that could be possible, but that is just so very disturbing to me.

 

[Gardenista]

This link suggests there was a plan by a pedi ring to kidnap and the RA was a member of the ring: Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen admitted to killings FIVE TIMES

That's RA's brother???

 

[girlhasnoname]

The Defense did request a change of Venue to Fort Wayne. I don't know if that had been mentioned before.

 

[livstabler]

That's RA's brother???

I think it's Chadwell's brother

 

[girlhasnoname]

Looks like they 'discovered the old lead from 2017 in September of 2022:

1. That in September 2022, while reviewing the evidence in the investigation into the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, investigators discovered an interview that was done with Richard Allen in 2017 by Indiana Conservation Officer DD.

 

[iamnotagolem]

That's RA's brother???

It's Chadwell's brother, it's like the Daily Mail just throws videos, pics and excerpts from all previous articles into the latest article and don't even bother checking to see if the new info is about the same "suspect".

 

[Schatz]

I think it's Chadwell's brother

omg you guys, I am only into the "M's" in the documents and def have not seen anything about a pedo ring or Chadwell yet, which is still what I have been suspicious of as happening. I read the document titled Motion Filed 6-27-2023 13.34.25 243107940 5139FC98-E28E-420B-9A53-8DFFD1333025.pdf and when I got done was like, "welp, that does sound mostly clear cut."

ETA I tried to attach the source document, but it is way too big.

 

[iamnotagolem]

omg you guys, I am only into the "M's" in the documents and def have not seen anything about a pedo ring or Chadwell yet, which is still what I have been suspicious of as happening. I read the document titled Motion Filed 6-27-2023 13.34.25 243107940 5139FC98-E28E-420B-9A53-8DFFD1333025.pdf and when I got done was like, "welp, that does sound mostly clear cut."

ETA I tried to attach the source document, but it is way too big.

No Chadwell is not involved, Daily Mail just isn't great with the details.

 

[MistyWaters]

This caught my eye, remember the speculation about Abby’s elbow or arm on the very edge of the earliest released photo? Chilling to read…..

The video (appx 43 seconds) depicts Abigail walking on the Monon High Bridge toward Liberty while a male subject wearing a dark jacket and jeans walks behind her.

 

[twall]

The Defense did request a change of Venue to Fort Wayne. I don't know if that had been mentioned before.

It was denied but jury is coming from Allen Co. It is in this article.

Allen County jurors will hear the case against accused Delphi killer

Jurors for the accused killer of Libby German and Abby Williams will come from the Fort Wayne area, according to an order from Judge Frances Gull.

www.jconline.com

 

[gregjrichards]

IMO

He is as guilty as sin. He has admitted to be around at that time. Witnesses place him there and now we have confessions to his wife.


I’m in no doubt to his guilt at this juncture!!

If he is guilty I hope that he may accept a sentence of LWOP and Abbey and Libby’s families could be spared the immense stress and distress of a having to attend a full trial which could last for weeks or several months. Given the multiple confessions and all the information that is coming out it seems highly unlikely that a jury would reach a unanimous verdict that he is not guilty.

 

[Megnut]

If RA intended to leave the park with the two girls, alive, to where would he have taken them?

I can't help but to think of houses of horrors...kept for years....

I wonder what communication, if any, transpired from about 3pm onward that day. A lot of CYAs?

Was the staging personal? Or intended to mislead?

Was there especial (sick) significance to two bullets? One at the crime scene, one in the keepsake box. Two victims, a bullet for each?

I'm going to put this out there -- if this was part of a master abduction (local sex trafficking for local pervs) -- Abby and Libby may have actively thwarted being removed to that dreaded second location. They had no chance... but they'd have had no chance at the next place either. Had they been relocated, they may never have been found --

I think we're hearing that trophies were kept -- a sock? -- but I'll ask anyway -- was RA going to be paid handsomely for delivering two young girls? Was he motivated by cash (desperate financially) and shared perversions?

Layers and layers of ick.

Jmo

 

[gregjrichards]

Is there anything that could relate to KK in the documents that have been released?

 

[Boxer]

I’m several pages behind but when it first came out that it was an Sig P226 I was shocked because I’d had conversations either here or on Reddit where people were certain it was a P226. I’m not entirely sure why they were so convinced. Maybe a rumor they’d heard that turned out to be true. But either way I think LE were 100% sure it was that exact gun model.

Shape.