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I didn't, didn't think of doing this. Next time I will.WOW. Did you take a screenshot?
I didn't, didn't think of doing this. Next time I will.WOW. Did you take a screenshot?
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I'm so confused. I'm still seeing the entire interview on the site I linked. All 27 minutes and 38 seconds. moo
ETA: The video is linked at the bottom of the article (not the top). HTH's.
A couple of recent posts are referencing the removal or modification of pages, posts, and videos relevant to the Abby and Libby murders. It's a good reminder how fluid electronic documents are, and that where something is important to a reader or user, creating a separate copy of the document held in another hard drive or creating a hard copy of the document or file may be useful for archival purposes.
It honestly brings me to tears to see what lengths members of this community will go to in order to see this monster caught.
I hope today is the day.
JMO
Hey, R,U, Kidding, where ya been all this time?. I was on some earlier threads with you..... Trying to recall, was it the Robyn Gardner thread?
I remember wondering how Abby’s mom seemed to be so detached. But as others say, and you, we all have our own life experiences that affect how we respond. Some of us were raised undergoing some hard knocks as well, so are more resilient. That might at times come across as being cold or hardened, when it’s just a veneer to protect ourselves.
I don’t think I’m quite as tough as her in this same situation, but I might wish I were. I absolutely hate crying in front of people.
Don’t be hard on here yourself, we’re all only human.(hug)
Hey, R,U, Kidding, where ya been all this time?. I was on some earlier threads with you..... Trying to recall, was it the Robyn Gardner thread?
I remember wondering how Abby’s mom seemed to be so detached. But as others say, and you, we all have our own life experiences that affect how we respond. Some of us were raised undergoing some hard knocks as well, so are more resilient. That might at times come across as being cold or hardened, when it’s just a veneer to protect ourselves.
I don’t think I’m quite as tough as her in this same situation, but I might wish I were. I absolutely hate crying in front of people.
Don’t be hard on here yourself, we’re all only human.(hug)
Thanks for posting that. It answered a prior question I had about how steep the embankment is from the water to the area of the crime scene.... not so steep at all!
Came across this short video showing fast flowing creek and crime scene. It was linked in skibaboo's case map and I hadn't seen it before.
Where did you see this conversation taking place? TIAbbm
I don't remember 100% exact, but I think, it belongs to the comments of a video re Abby/Libby:
One of the writers stated, it maybe the BG took the photo of Abby on the bridge*. The writer gave the impression (to me at least), he would know ... The next writer asked, if he had been there himself. The original commentator then answered slightly annoying "Were you?" - Afterwards: nothing to see of this user again, nowhere.
The username of the person, who stated "pic made by BG", were the initials of the kidnapper/murderer in case Jayme C./WI.
* Because I think since the first view onto this pic of Abby on the bridge, that Abby doesn't look like a girl having fun on a warm February day with her best friend, but somehow embarrassed, I stumbled over this comment.
I thought it was just my stupid phone. There was no 10:00 mark when i loaded that video, it only went to just over three minutes.Websleuths Poster ‘Steeltowngirl’ asked,” does anyone have a link where it’s stated that the girls crossed the creek?”
Hello to All,
The video posted in the Jax49 link has been edited down from 27min to less than 5 minutes. I have searched for a YouTube video of the entire 27 minute interview with no luck.
Darn, the same thing has happened on some of Grey Hughes videos. Without warning entire swatches of these videos are edited or parts deleted.
Back to my question since the segment of the Fox59 interview I desperately wanted to hear is now missing. Does anyone know if there is a transcription or could someone paraphrase what the lead detectives ‘exact words or phasing’ were in regards to ‘Libby and Abby crossing the creek’?
Thanks for reading my post.
MOO
I just searched my browser history and didn't find anything. I don't know, where I read it. Comments to a short video (Abby was seen on bridge), I think, not long ago viewed by me.Where did you see this conversation taking place? TIA
I'm confused as to why they can't find the driver of this vehicle that was at that abandoned building. This is a murder investigation. Did this vehicle have no plates to check to see who it belonged to? Was this vehicle reported stolen by the owners, therefore eliminating them from being the drivers? Are the owners of the vehicle not being honest as to who drove it there and left it? I would think they'd know who owned every vehicle within 20 miles of the crime scene, therefore allowing them to narrow down who the possible driver was.
I've read some people have suggested maybe BG ordered the girls down the hill and to cross the creek and then went back across on the bridge. I don't see that happening at all. How would he have maintained any control over them if that happened? What would have kept them from taking off down the road towards Abby's house? Or the other direction towards other houses?
Earlier I brought up the theory that he was leading them towards the cemetery, where he may have been parked, to take them to another location. Now I'm wondering, could he have been parked somewhere on that road under the bridge? How much traffic is on that road usually? Does that road lead to RL's property? Could he have known RL was gone that day and parked there and was hoping to lead the girls there and take them somewhere else? Maybe this is when the girls tried to get away and took off across the creek. I'm beginning to think it wasn't BG's idea to cross this cold creek.
MOO
Thanks Jax, I was opening the one at the top.???
I'm so confused. I'm still seeing the entire interview on the site I linked. All 27 minutes and 38 seconds. moo
ETA: The video is linked at the bottom of the article (not the top). HTH's.
Thanks for posting that. It answered a prior question I had about how steep the embankment is from the water to the area of the crime scene.... not so steep at all!
You and others have pointed out to me how judgmental my post was and you are so right.
Forgive me. I do not know how I would react or grieve in the situation Abby's mom is in.
Her daughter was murdered. Mine was a stupid comment and I sincerely apologize.
I truly am a compassionate person. That was very cruel of me.
That makes wonder if LE has footprints on this side of the creek or the other. A much longer taped off area than I remember. So maybe LE was trying to include the area from the creek up to the actual crime scene for tracks or other evidence. Interesting thought along those lines - I don't recall LE taping off an area on the opposite side.
Came across this short video showing fast flowing creek and crime scene. It was linked in skibaboo's case map and I hadn't seen it before.
I don’t care if it’s historic. They should tear it down. Aside from the crime, it’s just outright dangerous
Amateur opinion and speculation
Taken from thread 65 post 186 with acknowledgement to @Spellbound