GRAY HUGHES ROUND TABLE WITH BECKY PATTY PART 2
Part B
Q. There’s these rumors that go around about the witnesses and the one that really is interesting to me is the 3:15 witness. I mean if there really was a witness that saw him leave, I mean that just blows my mind that he would not be, like, obviously wet and looking kind of crazy. Can you just give me your feelings on that?
BP: I do know LE, you know, they did say that there was a witness that saw him leaving. I’m not so sure on the time. I don’t know where the 3:15 came from but I do know that we were told that there was a witness that did see him leaving.
GH: I think she’s talking about Cheyenne was on the bridge at 3:15ish, but Cheyenne isn’t the witness, that’s the thing. They’re kind of mixing them together. You know what I’m talking about? Remember Cheyenne was out at the bridge?
Q. Yeah. She was on there – was it 3:49 or something? I can’t remember now.
GH: Yeah.
BP: I know what you’re talking about bro, yeah.
GH: Yeah. But she was on the bridge. She got there at around 3… - she said around 3:15 or – 3:10 or something.
Q. Yeah. That’s just – I know – really a lot of speculation going on there with that timeframe, but still, it blows my mind that someone actually saw him leaving, you know, that he was on the trail leaving the scene and I just would really like to know what did he look like, you know what I mean?
BP: They never really said he was on the trail.
Q. Where was he seen leaving? I’ll leave that to Becky to answer. Where was he seen leaving? Where did the witness see him leaving from?
BP: I’m, I’m not exactly sure. (There was definitely a bit of hesitation before answering)
GH: And some stuff is still – you can’t really talk about.
Q. I mean at one point they were asking people to – if they seen anybody out hitchhiking, didn’t they …
BP: Yep.
Q. … in the very beginning?
BP: Well, in the very beginning there was – I remember in the very beginning there was somebody that stopped because there was a work truck or something broke down just a short ways from there and a lady stopped and asked for help. So I remember, I remember that. Yes, I do remember it coming out that they were looking for – if somebody was hitchhiking or something like that. So, you know, I’m not exactly sure where the witness saw him because I’ve not talked to any of the witnesses that I’m aware of. I don’t want to affect the case in any way, you know.
GH: Right.
BP: So I’m …
GH: No, you don’t have to say everything. Like, if you have stuff that you can’t say, then, you know, just don’t say it. You know, I don’t know for sure, you know – I said a minute ago Cheyenne’s not the witness. Well, to be honest, I don’t know if she’s not the witness, alright. So all I can say is that all I’ve ever seen is she has that one photo on the far end of the bridge at 3… was it 49, and then she got to the parking area after – I guess she maybe – I don’t know. She said something like she saw Derrick or something, but I don’t know. That doesn’t really make sense. Well yeah, he got around, he got there around that time, didn’t he – 3:13, right? Derrick?
BP: Yeah, yes. His first phone call when he was coming down the road was at 3:11 and then he called again at 3:14, and those came from our phone records. We just pulled our phone records and stuff so that we could see.
GH: 3:11 was at that bridge back here, crossing …
Q. Did Abby have her phone with her? Was that phone ever found? And where was Abby’s phone found – I mean Libby’s phone?
BP: LE’s never released where the phone was located.
Q. And did Abby have her phone with her that day?
BP: No, only Libby.