Intrigued25
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If I recall, search and rescue dogs would need to be brought in. They are not readily available within an hour. If I'm wrong someone correct me. : )I know LE says they didn’t use search dogs because so many people were out there but that just doesn’t make sense.
LE could have had dogs out there by 5:30. Yes there may have been a lot of people but there are a lot of people in airports too and the dogs can still figure out who is concealing drugs out of hundreds of people.
Most counties have search dogs and if not ISP does.
Any theories on what could bring someone from outside of Delphi/Carrol County to the area, specifically Monon High Bridge?
I know LE are working on the theory that the individual is local, but what if he isn't?
Are there any websites or links (i.e. best birdwatching locations, atlas obscura, low-traffic hikes, old bridges, etc...) that directly link Monon High Bridge?
I don't even think they had them and they were due to arrive from Illinois IIRC but then they didn't arrive so the searchers began and found the girls. To answer another poster I believe they were found only around 4 or 500 metres from the end of the bridge and across the creek. MOOIf I recall, search and rescue dogs would need to be brought in. They are not readily available within an hour. If I'm wrong someone correct me. : )
So I have followed this all along but rarely post. Anyways, can someone tell me this: Where were the girls found in relation to the initial search? It just seems like they would have been found that first night? Did they miss them or is it a bigger area than what they initially looked in?
I cant directly answer your question.So I have followed this all along but rarely post. Anyways, can someone tell me this: Where were the girls found in relation to the initial search? It just seems like they would have been found that first night? Did they miss them or is it a bigger area than what they initially looked in?
Not thousands, Riley's quote was "a thousand", other quotes stated "dozens" and "hundreds" . Enough to contaminate a scene making use of search dogs difficult by the next day after 10a.m.right. but "thousands" of volunteer searchers were out, so it was not - not a big deal at all. I don't think that many people would be searching so soon if no one thought it was a big deal. LE thought it was not a big deal, but others thought it was.
Not thousands, Riley's quote was "a thousand", other quotes stated "dozens" and "hundreds" . Enough to contaminate a scene making use of search dogs difficult by the next day after 10a.m.
They should have had the dogs out there on the 13th as soon as they found out there was 2 missing girls last seen on the trails. If Carroll county does not have search dogs ISP does and so does neighboring counties like mine.Not thousands, Riley's quote was "a thousand", other quotes stated "dozens" and "hundreds" . Enough to contaminate a scene making use of search dogs difficult by the next day after 10a.m.
I don’t recall the initial search of the girls or the search being called off being on national news or Chicago news for that matter. I do remember the news breaking when they were found though.Yes. I agree that the police were slow to realize they were faced with the worst case scenario. They had their assumptions that night. Of course due to national news the while country was watching and very surprised that the official search was called off.
I don’t recall the initial search of the girls or the search being called off being on national news or Chicago news for that matter. I do remember the news breaking when they were found though.
They should have had the dogs out there on the 13th as soon as they found out there was 2 missing girls last seen on the trails. If Carroll county does not have search dogs ISP does and so does neighboring counties like mine.
Like I said they should have quickly gathered all resources that evening. How many times have we heard that LE told parents to wait, they’ll come home, they are teenagers. We’ve seen this play out so many times with bad endings
I thought those days were over and that the modern protocol is to move quickly and not waist time.
Hindsight is 20/20. Speaking of 20/20 vision, one would think there’d be a great sketch from this interaction.Only one of the witnesses who wished she had warned them apparently IIRC.
Hindsight is 20-20. I’m just going to guess because back when I worked these cases 99.9% of missing teenager cases were runaways or kids on a lark.
What you think they “should have” done comes with the luxury of knowing the outcome of this case. Small town chiefs, county sheriffs, and big city chiefs all have to answer to someone about the amount of overtime spent.
Calling out dogs, legions of search officers, and helicopters all cost a lot of money that towns, counties, and cities are not willing to spend every time two teenage girls don’t come home on time.
This all may sound abrupt and rude but it’s based on nearly three decades in law enforcement.
That's an excellent point. If the girl were planning to stay away for whatever reason, they probably would never have made that call to DG for a pick-up ride home. They would have just told Libby's Gram they did.
The hobbies you mentioned plus many more. Hunting, mushrooms, fishing, etc.
The problem is, how do you find those individuals, then investigate everyone that had an interest in the area?
It would be great if they could bring everyone in for an interview. I wish they could. Grill them one by one in a hot room with a clock ticking, and see who sh*ts their pants.
But they can’t.
I hear you. Thanks for the inside view of things. But let me ask you this. Isn’t it old school for LE to say let’s wait for so and so hours?Hindsight is 20-20. I’m just going to guess because back when I worked these cases 99.9% of missing teenager cases were runaways or kids on a lark.
What you think they “should have” done comes with the luxury of knowing the outcome of this case. Small town chiefs, county sheriffs, and big city chiefs all have to answer to someone about the amount of overtime spent.
Calling out dogs, legions of search officers, and helicopters all cost a lot of money that towns, counties, and cities are not willing to spend every time two teenage girls don’t come home on time.
This all may sound abrupt and rude but it’s based on nearly three decades in law enforcement.
We've been down every road possible. From coin shows to insurance agents. That's a needle in a haystack rabbit hole that'll drive ya to drink! lolYou're right, they dont have the resources to bring everyone in.
I'm merely trying to figure out what (if anything) would or could attract someone from outside Carrol County/Delphi to the monon high bridge.
I notice "best hikes in West Lafayette" provided some links to Monon Bridge at the bottom of the list.
We've been down every road possible. From coin shows to insurance agents. That's a needle in a haystack rabbit hole that'll drive ya to drink! lol
This is one of my top questions. Who saw them there? Who. With all that is out there no one has said I saw the girls there.