Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #123

[Falling Down]

You’re welcome. Once the looping is noticed it becomes obvious but I can understand why people are misled by it as well.

Whether or not there is more of his walk, I don’t think we know. I recall watching an early Dr Phil episode and BP believed Libby was hiding her cellphone behind her back, sort of making a sweeping motion to catch his image without focusing the cellphone camera at all. Or maybe there’s a reason not to release more.

This is only speculation, but it’s often been wondered if that’s Abby’s arm in the left side of the photo (the photo is a clip from the same video).

The photo on the right - there’s something on the very left edge that appears to have been intentionally snipped when this photo was first released.

Grandfather of Slain Indiana 13-Year-Old Speaks Out

My hunch is that's the best they have of BG.

Good post.

JMO

 

[Andreee]

You’re welcome. Once the looping is noticed it becomes obvious but I can understand why people are misled by it as well.

Whether or not there is more of his walk, I don’t think we know. I recall watching an early Dr Phil episode and BP believed Libby was hiding her cellphone behind her back, sort of making a sweeping motion to catch his image without focusing the cellphone camera at all. Or maybe there’s a reason not to release more.

This is only speculation, but it’s often been wondered if that’s Abby’s arm in the left side of the photo (the photo is a clip from the same video).

The photo on the right - there’s something on the very left edge that appears to have been intentionally snipped when this photo was first released.

Grandfather of Slain Indiana 13-Year-Old Speaks Out

Yes, I do see that spot in the corner, but hard to detect what it is of course. Thanks again!

 

[MistyWaters]

Hi, I didn't see the video, only LE talking.

Look for subtitle “the Video”. It’s 9 seconds long.

Delphi Murders: ISP says new audio, video and sketch shows Libby & Abby’s killer

 

[Andreee]

Look for subtitle “the Video”. It’s 9 seconds long.

ok will do~

 

[Vern]

I can't access the site as I'm outside USA so without reading the gist of the conversation my feelings would be that Mr Logan was a little bitter that the crime scene was on his property. Firstly it resulted in him going to jail for an unrelated incident and secondly, imo, the girls were left there intentionally to cause him trouble. Whether it would have a financial, reputation or emotional effect I can't say. Only my thoughts.

IMO, not bitter.

If one is an alcoholic on the wagon … surely the discovery of two young teen girls murdered on my property may cause me to fall off of said proverbial wagon and make further irrational decision to drive while suspended.

 

[rosesfromangels]

If you go to the ISP website and open the looped BG video posted there you can zoom in while it's playing the video in a loop. I zoom in on his face and that's what I see, his mouth moving as if either talking or singing. Yes mental illness is a real possibility.

ISP: Delphi Homicide Investigation

I still can't see enough detail to determine speaking or singing.
However, this is the clearest I have seen to date.

 

[K.jill]

Can I post a link to the msm Article about the judge local judge who stepped down?

it is not directly related to this case but speaks to some creepy corruption in the area.

iirc yesterday some ws posters were speculating about a crime club or group. They may be interested in sleuthing deeper here...this would require watching the video mentioned n the article.

 

[Andreee]

Can I post a link to the msm Article about the judge local judge who stepped down?

it is not directly related to this case but speaks to some creepy corruption in the area.

iirc yesterday some ws posters were speculating about a crime club or group. They may be interested in sleuthing deeper here.

I read the article and I don't think it has anything really to do with the murders so I wouldn't. Salacious but ... But ask the mods. they be the bosses here lol.

 

[Andreee]

I still can't see enough detail to determine speaking or singing.
However, this is the clearest I have seen to date.

I honestly can't imagine him singing though, as he is almost upon his prey so I think he would be focussing on that. It does look though like he is starting to turn to the left a bit on approach.

 

[Marzipan]

I have not posted in a long time but check in and read all of the posts. I have not looked at the one Delphi fb group I am a member of for about a year but just decided to take a quick look.
They are talking about an article in the Journal & Courier about a local, Carroll County judge who recently and unexpectedly stepped down.
Does this have anything to do with Abby and Libby? Doubtful. But if you checkout a website mentioned in the article about the judge it leads to questions about possible crime in the area.

I just read the article you mention and WOW. How very interesting about Judge Fouts, and I do think it's worth noting here, along with what @SeattleStew posted. I hope others are reading it and will weigh in. Between this and the photo of the detective standing over what looks to me to be a heart partially carved in the ground that I had never noticed in that photo, there are definitely some things to think about. (I know others don't see a man-made heart there, but I do see at least the man-made completion of one.)

 

[K.jill]

I just read the article you mention and WOW. How very interesting about Judge Fouts, and I do think it's worth noting here, along with what @SeattleStew posted. I hope others are reading it and will weigh in. Between this and the photo of the detective standing over what looks to me to be a heart partially carved in the ground that I had never noticed in that photo, there are definitely some things to think about. (I know others don't see a man-made heart there, but I do see at least the man-made completion of one.)

I absolutely see a man made heart, too!!

I would like to see someone with good observational skills and knowledge of this case read the article and dig a tiny bit further and weigh in.

 

[Andreee]

DBM

 

[Andreee]

I absolutely see a man made heart, too!!

I would like to see someone with good observational skills and knowledge of this case read the article and dig a tiny bit further and weigh in.

I'm sorry I just think its an indent or something similar. But that's my opinion. I also feel the judge matter does not belong on this thread, its a side matter, and he is most likely being ridiculed/shamed enough for it, and resigned. Let's not add to that here; but like I say, ask the moderators. I will of course go with their decision.

 

[somequestions]

That's a good question actually, should you submit a tip every time you see someone who looks like the suspect in either sketch?

The problem there is that the second sketch is so vague it could be anyone, the first is more detailed, and the second looks nothing like the first, so its confusing

If you don't live near Delphi or even somewhat near Delphi its a one in million shot, but id say Yes, submit it , you never know what it might turn up

Its up to LE there to determine whether to pursue them or not , I'm sure you're not the first to do so

I see so many bridge guys. There is the bridge guy from Liberty German's video. There is the bridge guy from the first released sketch. There is the bridge guy from the second released sketch.

Then there are all the bridge guys from youtube re-creations. Some people have produced their own sketches of bridge guy too. So I worry that the police will think I am playing the comparison game that they seem to not like by submitting tips based on descriptions.

Sometimes I do not know what to do because I do not know whether these sketches released are actual leads they have developed or just sketches thrown out there by LE hoping that enough people like me will send in description tips that eventually through a process of elimination one of them will have to be correct.

That is why when the police said at the April 2019 press conference: "This is the person responsible..." I thought that it could turn into a complete mess with LE receiving thousands of tips based on this young sketch(sketch #2). Then even if they catch the real bridge guy, what if he does not look anything like the second sketch?

It really all depends on whether LE actually "knows" the if the person depicted in the second sketch is responsible for the murders. Or whether they are just saying they "know". And then hoping they are correct because in such a small town like Delphi, IN the right tip will have to come in eventually, right?

 

[MistyWaters]

I absolutely see a man made heart, too!!

I would like to see someone with good observational skills and knowledge of this case read the article and dig a tiny bit further and weigh in.

I think you should contact a mod as the Judge has no direct connection to this murder investigation and he’s definitely not a named suspect. Otherwise we risk unnecessary work for the mods in cleaning up the thread to remove off-topic posts.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I still can't see enough detail to determine speaking or singing.
However, this is the clearest I have seen to date.

Spitting something - that was one possibility among the selection also.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I would like to see the heart in the grass. The post with link showed "error" to me, when I wanted to connect. Maybe, someone is helping me out? Would be nice!

 

[sunshineray]

Yes, I've heard she was, but why would they edit that part out? And couldn't LE still have included at least a step or two more!

I agree a step or two more, even a word or two more. Even if they found shoe prints, the shoe/boot size...something more is needed for someone less close to the killer to recognize him. It's obvious those close are either oblivious or unwilling to step up for justice. If the latter shame on them for protecting a killer.

 

[Charlot123]

Spitting something - that was one possibility among the selection also.

I think he spits over Left shoulder, or at least it is seen so on the video loop.
If it is mirror image, disregard, please.
If it is his L shoulder, then, maybe a superstition? I feel BG has some OCD. In Russian tradition, spitting over L shoulder is to chase away jinxing. In Islam, it is even more important (if someone hears the voice of shaitan, the devil, he has to spit over L shoulder 3 times).
But in the US?
“In the past, people believed two angels lived behind a person; a white angel lived behind the person’s right shoulder; a black angel was behind his left shoulder. People thought spitting would keep the black angel from getting angry, and then he would not destroy their plans.”
So maybe, spitting at the devil?

 

[BNA]

I agree a step or two more, even a word or two more. Even if they found shoe prints, the shoe/boot size...something more is needed for someone less close to the killer to recognize him. It's obvious those close are either oblivious or unwilling to step up for justice. If the latter shame on them for protecting a killer.

I am going with oblivious.....oblivious gamers.