Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #147

[FrostedGlass]

I think it’s already been granted. Online It looks like the pre trial conferences and trial date have already been cancelled but not yet rescheduled.

Those are his old dates that are cancelled.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

I hope that we are still allowed to use Gray Hughes as a source for information!
I am including a link for his latest Delphi podcast.
On this, he discusses information that he received from a close friend of AW.
He says that according to her, there was an "F" or "Fsymbol " left at the scene of the crime.
Has anyone ever heard this before?
And can anyone think of what the heck and "F Symbol" could mean or stand for?

JMO

Well that’s new. I’ve heard of other symbols but not an “f”. Who knows what’s true! That being said, GH doesn’t usually throw junk out there.

 

[Boxer]

Several times he said that it was because of the "circumstances of the crime" and "evidence at the scene" that he thought it would be solved quickly. Now I'm wondering what all the perpetrator(s) left behind. To me, it sounds as if items belonging to the perpetrator(s) were left behind. Does anyone else get that sense? TIA

Agree.

 

[Ravenmoon]

file:///C:/Users/Student/Downloads/MTC%20Kegan%20Kline.pdf_Redacted.pdf


Okay...the prosecutor has no objection for the continuance???
KAK is in the process of exploring other legal options?!!!!!

What does this mean?
Anyone?

JMO

 

[Boxer]

file:///C:/Users/Student/Downloads/MTC%20Kegan%20Kline.pdf_Redacted.pdf


Okay...the prosecutor has no objection for the continuance???
KAK is in the process of exploring other legal options?!!!!!

What does this mean?
Anyone?

JMO

Link wont work for me.

 

[Schatz]

MS has the doc.

 

[Schatz]

MS has the doc.

Which seems to indicate the prosecutor has already agreed to it while Kegan “in the process of exploring other legal options.” Plea deal?

 

[Ravenmoon]

Which seems to indicate the prosecutor has already agreed to it while Kegan “in the process of exploring other legal options.” Plea deal?

Thank you for adding the link. I don't know why mine won't work!

I am thinking that he is looking at a plea deal as well.

JMO

 

[Yemelyan]

file:///C:/Users/Student/Downloads/MTC%20Kegan%20Kline.pdf_Redacted.pdf


Okay...the prosecutor has no objection for the continuance???
KAK is in the process of exploring other legal options?!!!!!

What does this mean?
Anyone?

JMO

"Exploring other legal options" sounds like KAK may be in the process of trying to find a new lawyer? Of course, this is seen sometimes when defendants aren't happy with their representation, though that's not the only reason this could happen - sometimes personal issues come up (illness, family circumstances, etc) and the lawyer cannot continue for various reasons.

 

[Schatz]

Thank you for adding the link. I don't know why mine won't work!

I am thinking that he is looking at a plea deal as well.

JMO

So WHO is he rolling on. Or probably more likely has *already* rolled on?

 

[Peppery]

MS has the doc.

Definitely think he's trying to work a deal.

 

[Schatz]

"Exploring other legal options" sounds like KAK may be in the process of trying to find a new lawyer? Of course, this is seen sometimes when defendants aren't happy with their representation, though that's not the only reason this could happen - sometimes personal issues come up (illness, family circumstances, etc) and the lawyer cannot continue for various reasons.

Thank you for always pulling me back down from the clouds with some logic!

 

[Peppery]

Anybody hear about ZVermillion....he accessed someone's drop box the day after the murders. IE, the day Abby and Libby were found, February 14, 2017. And, then again when the sketches were released. What do all of these guys have in common besides being in possession of "advertised censored" materials.... Oh yah, that famous "drop box."

link?

 

[Ravenmoon]

"Exploring other legal options" sounds like KAK may be in the process of trying to find a new lawyer? Of course, this is seen sometimes when defendants aren't happy with their representation, though that's not the only reason this could happen - sometimes personal issues come up (illness, family circumstances, etc) and the lawyer cannot continue for various reasons.

Do you think that the prosecution would be okay with that?
I mean, if it is because KAK is not happy with his legal representation?
That sounds like a stalling tactic , and I would imagine that would not be good enough?

JMO

 

[Peppery]

I hope that we are still allowed to use Gray Hughes as a source for information!
I am including a link for his latest Delphi podcast.
On this, he discusses information that he received from a close friend of AW.
He says that according to her, there was an "F" or "Fsymbol " left at the scene of the crime.
Has anyone ever heard this before?
And can anyone think of what the heck and "F Symbol" could mean or stand for?

JMO

hmmmmm

the letter F
the F curse word
f-stop used in photography (first thing that came to my mind)
are there any groups/cults/organizations that use a symbol with the letter F?

 

[Ravenmoon]

link?

Deleted by me...

I can't seem to get links working.
I am sorry!

 

[Peppery]

Do you think that the prosecution would be okay with that?
I mean, if it is because KAK is not happy with his legal representation?
That sounds like a stalling tactic , and I would imagine that would not be good enough?

JMO

The DA might not like it but might think it's better to allow it now than to get a conviction that could be appealed/overturned for ineffective counsel?

 

[Yemelyan]

Do you think that the prosecution would be okay with that?
I mean, if it is because KAK is not happy with his legal representation?
That sounds like a stalling tactic , and I would imagine that would not be good enough?

JMO

If it was due to being unhappy with representation, it's a definite stall tactic and unlikely to be agreed upon, IMO. If the defense lawyer legitimately has an issue going forward, then I think it's more likely that all parties would agree.

Could be a plea deal developing, but they have had sooo long to get to that point. Now KAK gets another 45 days or longer to "decide" what he wants to do....

 

[Peppery]

I hope that it is okay for me to respond :

https://www.kokomotribune.com/news/...cle_91ccc406-b078-11e8-b71a-0b7986a513de.html

https://www.kokomotribune.com/news/police-man-had-over-2-500-child-

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I had to copy the link then replace the censored word and it worked

 

[Ravenmoon]

https://www.kokomotribune.com/news/police-man-had-over-2-500-child-

ADD CENSORED WORD HERE-files/article_91ccc406-b078-11e8-b71a-0b7986a513de.html

I had to copy the link then replace the censored word and it worked

Thank you!