Interview with Casey - Is it finally happening this time?

[Whiteorchids]

Him and Cheney Mason (she lived with) both probably got pleasured by her on numerous occasions. JB was referred to CA from the other female inmates. I'm sure he got lots of favors from the girls. No one had ever heard of Jose Baez before this trial. I wouldn't put it past him for this to be true after seeing how he operates in the courtroom. Personally, I think he's a slime ball.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Him and Cheney Mason (she lived with) both probably got pleasured by her on numerous occasions. JB was referred to CA from the other female inmates. I'm sure he got lots of favors from the girls. No one had ever heard of Jose Baez before this trial. I wouldn't put it past him for this to be true after seeing how he operates in the courtroom. Personally, I think he's a slime ball.

That's a pretty outrageous statement to make about Mason.

I get that people don't like their client, but Baez and Mason are both members of the Florida bar, the chances of either one of them getting busy with a client IN JAIL as payment for representation when either one could easily afford an escort if they were so inclined is zero.

Baez had won cases before this trial which is why he was recommended. I wasn't a huge fan of his during the pre trial hearings or the trial itself, but some of the accusations made against him since have really gone beyond the pale.

 

[RR0004]

Man, ya'll are going to reel me back in.

Anyone with a brain knows that Dominic Casey was out in those woods looking for Caylee's remains and he had clear directions on where to look and what to look for. It doesn't matter who he was working for at that time because they ALL knew. Not one of them wanted Justice for Caylee. Not one of them.

Do I believe Dominic Casey and his claims? Absolutely! Do I care? Not one bit. What does it matter NOW? You didn't CARE back then... but you want us to care NOW? No, sir!

Had Dominic Casey had an OUNCE of dignity... he could have went to the Police/State and gave THEM the information on where to find Caylee's remains, but he didn't. He let that poor baby sit out there in the smoldering heat... to be picked apart by scavengers... through multiple stormy Florida days and nights until there was nothing left of her but scattered little bones (not all of them were found).

Could they have used his testimony? No. But they would have found her sooner and it could have HELPED determine the Cause of Death. But, no... he was too consumed with the cameras and national exposure to care about Caylee.

Dominic Casey isn't telling us anything new. We already knew this. We know his involvement. We know Baez's involvement. We know the Anthony's involvement. We know it all. To think by talking now will make it all better? Nope!! It just makes me even more sick.

And let's not forget....this was all part of his deposition tied to CA's bankruptcy, right? The man is obvoiously just trying to collect on the money he feels he's owed. So, IMO, it's still not about doing the right thing. Caylee Marie will never have the justice she deserves.

 

[Whiteorchids]

That's a pretty outrageous statement to make about Mason.

I get that people don't like their client, but Baez and Mason are both members of the Florida bar, the chances of either one of them getting busy with a client IN JAIL as payment for representation when either one could easily afford an escort if they were so inclined is zero.

Baez had won cases before this trial which is why he was recommended. I wasn't a huge fan of his during the pre trial hearings or the trial itself, but some of the accusations made against him since have really gone beyond the pale.

I'm entitled to my own opinion and you can have yours. IMHO I don't think it's ethical to have a client live with an attorney that participated in his or her representation.

 

[Whiteorchids]

That's a pretty outrageous statement to make about Mason.

I get that people don't like their client, but Baez and Mason are both members of the Florida bar, the chances of either one of them getting busy with a client IN JAIL as payment for representation when either one could easily afford an escort if they were so inclined is zero.

Baez had won cases before this trial which is why he was recommended. I wasn't a huge fan of his during the pre trial hearings or the trial itself, but some of the accusations made against him since have really gone beyond the pale.

Ha! that's not outrageous compared to JB and his slime dwelling leeches making false allegations that GA molested CA and killed little Caylee whom he adored in front of the whole world on National TV viewing the trial and media in order to get his murdering client off with unreasonable doubt when he knew darn well she murdered her baby and threw her away like trash.

Only Florida attorney I watched in trials and have great respect for is Juan Martinez.

 

[jkly]

That's a pretty outrageous statement to make about Mason.

I get that people don't like their client, but Baez and Mason are both members of the Florida bar, the chances of either one of them getting busy with a client IN JAIL as payment for representation when either one could easily afford an escort if they were so inclined is zero.

Baez had won cases before this trial which is why he was recommended. I wasn't a huge fan of his during the pre trial hearings or the trial itself, but some of the accusations made against him since have really gone beyond the pale.

DC alleged that the inappropriate contact between Baez and Casey did not occur while she was in jail, but occurred during the time she was out on bail and would spend about six hours a day at his office.

I don't know if I believe that about Cheney. I actually saw very faint sparks of decency in him from time to time. (Not that I think he was in anyway wonderful. He just didn't crap all over the legal process as thoroughly and openly as Baez did.)

I also think Baez was constantly blindsiding him along with the rest of his team. He basically used Cheney because he needed a death qualified attorney. Cheney did, however, try to get Casey to take a plea towards the end of the trial.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Ha! that's not outrageous compared to JB and his slime dwelling leeches making false allegations that GA molested CA and killed little Caylee whom he adored in front of the whole world on National TV viewing the trial and media in order to get his murdering client off with unreasonable doubt when he knew darn well she murdered her baby and threw her away like trash.

Only Florida attorney I watched in trials and have great respect for is Juan Martinez.

Juan Martinez is from Arizona.

Also, I thought the argument put forward was that Caylee drowned in the pool and George used his power over Casey to get her to help cover it up?

In regards to molestation claims, even Cindy was on board early on, Dominic! Casey mentioned the possibility himself in emails from 2008-9 so it wasn't something Baez came up with just as he headed into trial.

There was speculation here, and all over the web that George was the father of Caylee, molestation claims were in the air from very early on, largely fed by the mystery of who Caylee's father was.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

DC alleged that the inappropriate contact between Baez and Casey did not occur while she was in jail, but occurred during the time she was out on bail and would spend about six hours a day at his office.

I don't know if I believe that about Cheney. I actually saw very faint sparks of decency in him from time to time. (Not that I think he was in anyway wonderful. He just didn't crap all over the legal process as thoroughly and openly as Baez did.)

I also think Baez was constantly blindsiding him along with the rest of his team. He basically used Cheney because he needed a death qualified attorney. Cheney did, however, try to get Casey to take a plea towards the end of the trial.

Oh yes, at the office .. I still don't think it happened though, consider the source etc.

The thing that Cheney did that I'll never be OK with is when he flipped off the media, I thought that was unnecessarily uncouth of him .. IMO these guys were just doing their jobs, to accuse them both of using Casey as a sexual plaything goes too far, I believe the state had their chance to try this case, they missed some key pieces of evidence (including Caylee's body after Kronk reported it the first time), so things could have been a lot different, but they aren't and a number of factors came into play to make that so. This doesn't mean that someone as low down as DC suddenly has credibility though, because he certainly doesn't.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Juan Martinez is from Arizona.

Also, I thought the argument put forward was that Caylee drowned in the pool and George used his power over Casey to get her to help cover it up?

In regards to molestation claims, even Cindy was on board early on, Dominic! Casey mentioned the possibility himself in emails from 2008-9 so it wasn't something Baez came up with just as he headed into trial.

There was speculation here, and all over the web that George was the father of Caylee, molestation claims were in the air from very early on, largely fed by the mystery of who Caylee's father was.

Thanks, your right JM is in Arizona. I lost track as I followed the JA trial too. At least JA was convicted. All that nonsense on GA was rumors IMHO just to take blame off of CA. I don't even like going down that road again. I was sickened when she walked free just like how I felt when OJ got away with double murder.

 

[coco puff]

That's a pretty outrageous statement to make about Mason.

I get that people don't like their client, but Baez and Mason are both members of the Florida bar, the chances of either one of them getting busy with a client IN JAIL as payment for representation when either one could easily afford an escort if they were so inclined is zero.

Baez had won cases before this trial which is why he was recommended. I wasn't a huge fan of his during the pre trial hearings or the trial itself, but some of the accusations made against him since have really gone beyond the pale.

Some chick in the slammer gave FCA his card. THATS how he got the gig. Also, if you research his win/loss record. I believe you will find that you are incorrect about his winning record.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Some chick in the slammer gave FCA his card. THATS how he got the gig. Also, if you research his win/loss record. I believe you will find that you are incorrect about his winning record.

Wiki .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Baez_(lawyer)

After being granted his license, he focused primarily on criminal defense cases, including the case of Elvira Garcia, an illegal Mexican immigrant accused of kidnapping a child that she had adopted as her own. Garcia was cleared of all charges.[SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP]

"He also tried the first-degree murder case of Nilton Diaz, heavily covered by the media in Orlando and Puerto Rico because the victim was the 2-year-old granddaughter of World Boxing Champion Wilfredo Vazquez.[SUP][11][/SUP] Diaz was acquitted of first and second degree murder but convicted of manslaughter. Prior to taking on the Casey Anthony case, Baez had tried over 45 jury trials including 5 murder cases and has never had a client convicted of first degree murder.[SUP][12]"

I'm not even a huge Baez fan, I just think it's completely biased to go along with something disgusting DC is saying considering what we know of his credibility. I think Casey killed Caylee, I think Baez got lucky, I think the state lost the case fair and square.


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[coco puff]

You need to read the doc dumps containing the emails between him, Luke and Ginny. He has also self published a number of 'books' on this case after shifting to the Anthony team once Baez cut him off early on. He is nothing more than a charlatan on the take. Whether he's a bigger liar than Casey or not is irrelevant.

Some people are desperate to believe any sensational claim that anyone makes in regards to this case, and DC has been trying to take advantage of that (with mixed results) for years, this time he's finally bitten off more than he can chew and I'm glad Baez is suing.

Some people are desperate to have FCA NOT cash in on the murder of her daughter. How can anyone defend the lawyer who defended the Mother knowing that the mother searched foolproof suffocation the day her daughter was slaughtered and wrapped with duct tape around her face and eventually dumped in the woods?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Some people are desperate to have FCA NOT cash in on the murder of her daughter. How can anyone defend the lawyer who defended the Mother knowing that the mother searched foolproof suffocation the day her daughter was slaughtered and wrapped with duct tape around her face and eventually dumped in the woods?

I think DC is another one with his snout in the trough and think anything he says should be viewed through that prism for clarity. I agree with the people who don't want Casey to profit from murder, I do not agree with making false claims or supporting them to make sure that doesn't happen.

Someone would have represented Casey at trail, or are we advocating for a system where defendants go up against the state on their own?

LE deserves some of the blame for missing that computer search, if Baez was able to find it they should have been able to too.

 

[coco puff]

I think DC is another one with his snout in the trough and think anything he says should be viewed through that prism for clarity. I agree with the people who don't want Casey to profit from murder, I do not agree with making false claims or supporting them to make sure that doesn't happen.

Someone would have represented Casey at trail, or are we advocating for a system where defendants go up against the state on their own?

LE deserves some of the blame for missing that computer search, if Baez was able to find it they should have been able to too.

Do you believe Caylee was murdered by her mother?

 

[Whiteorchids]

What a wonderful Mom!

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Do you believe Caylee was murdered by her mother?

Yes, but the trial was a fail, OCSO missed some key opportunities to supply prosecution with a stronger case, but I think a large number of factors came together that led to the acquittal.

The circus atmosphere didn't help, some key players who should have known better let themselves be led astray by that.

 

[jkly]

Oh yes, at the office .. I still don't think it happened though, consider the source etc.

The thing that Cheney did that I'll never be OK with is when he flipped off the media, I thought that was unnecessarily uncouth of him .. IMO these guys were just doing their jobs, to accuse them both of using Casey as a sexual plaything goes too far, I believe the state had their chance to try this case, they missed some key pieces of evidence (including Caylee's body after Kronk reported it the first time), so things could have been a lot different, but they aren't and a number of factors came into play to make that so. This doesn't mean that someone as low down as DC suddenly has credibility though, because he certainly doesn't.

Oh I agree about Cheney flicking off the media. I don't like him. I just think he's a marginally better person than Jose Baez.

DC only alleged it about Jose Baez, not Mason. Personally, I think DC alleged it because it's true... if you look at the way the two of them were acting towards each other at that time.

What I thought was going too far was to publish all that crap about George in his book. Casey had enough credibility to be acquitted based on hearsay statements that she didn't testify to and innuendo about abuse that was never proven, I just don't consider this far-fetched.

Right now, Baez is dealing with only a fraction of what GA was put through. To this day, I run across posts from people who have decided, by sight and their "gut feeling" that he was a child molester who did something shady to Caylee.

 

[Whiteorchids]

She never would have reported Caylee missing until Cindy had enough lies from CA and went looking for her and Caylee. She got caught by Cindy with no Caylee in tow and asking where Caylee was that's when Zanny the Nanny story was created. I will never forget when Cindy handed CA the phone to report her missing CA voice sounded like she could care less. Thinking about CA driving around for days with little Caylees dead lifeless body in the trunk with duct tape on her mouth then telling people the bad smell was from running over an animal is evil. I think the day she backed her car in the garage she got the Winnie the Pooh blanket from Caylees room wrapped her in it and got the heart sticker placed it on the duct table then stuffed her little body in a trash bag drove around the corner and dumped her like trash where CA and her young friends used to bury dead animals. No wonder CA had nightmares knowing her murdered baby was laying dead nearby in a trash bag. Remember the scene at the jail when she was filmed hyperventilating when she saw on TV they found Caylee? She's a horrible monster. How can she live with herself???

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Oh spot on Nancy Grace parody!

[video=youtube;AmpaccO_QiM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmpaccO_QiM[/video]

Some of her simplistic arguments are half of the problem, I'm still waiting for someone to do a really good analysis of this whole investigation and trial to see what went wrong, and I don't mean simply blaming the jury again, that's not the answer here.

I'd start with the media coverage ..

 

[jkly]

Then there's Kronk.

Baez went on a smear campaign on the natiional news claiming Kronk should also be considered a suspect in Caylee's murder or considered "equally responsible for Caylee's death." (Really? Funny he never said Kronk was present when Caylee "drowned.")

Baez writes that Anthony described the drowning and molestation to him in early 2009 and that he believed Caylee was dead early on. George Anthony denied the defense's allegations that he abused Casey and helped her cover up Caylee's death.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/casey-anthony-defense-meter-reader-roy-kronk-killed-caylee-anthony/

http://www.news4jax.com/news/casey-anthony-attorneys-book-released

Baez went on the news pointing the finger at Kronk in November 2009. He claimed in his book that he found out that Caylee drowned in early 2009, a couple of months after the remains were found.