Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #8
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The civilians being slaughtered do matter. President Biden has made it abundantly clear that Israel must abide by the "laws of war." I've seen the video of the massive destruction in Gaza's residential areas that the US media has provided.
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Biden: Israel needs to operate within ‘laws of war’
Israel has the right to defend itself against Hamas, Biden said, adding the militant group does not represent the majority of Palestinians.
www.newsnationnow.com
Israel has the right to defend itself, but still needs to operate within the laws of war, President Joe Biden said Wednesday during a news conference where he also called out “extremist settlers attacking Palestinians in the West Bank.”
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@otto : Thanks for the link.
Prayers for the safety of the Israeli forces uppermost.
This is so sad -- all Hamas had to do was to release those hostages they had no right to abduct.
Instead, by their actions -- they've made it clear they do not care about the safety of their own residents.
Jmo.
Omo.
Prayers for the safety of the Israeli forces uppermost.
This is so sad -- all Hamas had to do was to release those hostages they had no right to abduct.
Instead, by their actions -- they've made it clear they do not care about the safety of their own residents.
Jmo.
Omo.
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USMC Lt. Gen. James Glynn, dispatched by Pentagon to advise Israel on risks inherent in an invasion of Gaza Strip, has returned to the US.“Make no mistake: what is, has or will unfold in Gaza is purely an Israeli decision.” -USMC commandant Gen. Eric Smith told reporters.
Near-total internet and cellular blackout hits Gaza as Israel ramps up strikes
The largest telecommunications provider in Gaza that was still largely operational, Paltel, said Friday that it had suffered a complete disruption of all services.
www.nbcnews.com
This is a good thing as Hamas and those fighting alongside them will not be able to communicate unless they have 'walkie-talkie'-type handhelds.
There's also this article :
Hamas calls on Palestinians in the West Bank to 'mobilise'
Hamas called on those in the West Bank and '1948 territories' - a term used by Palestinians meaning Israel in reference to when it was founded - to take up arms as Israel's ground invasion begins.
Hamas has called on Palestinians in the West Bank to 'mobilize' in support of Gaza.
Crowds of hundreds of people in the city of Ramallah, on the West Bank chanted 'If you have a rifle... you should either kill a Jew or give it to Hamas,' according to video from Palestinian news agency Shehab.
The tone of Hamas almost makes it sound like they're calling on whole families to target and kill Israelis ?
Or whom exactly are they appealing to ?
Like, fathers. mothers, and maybe even teens old enough to handle a gun or knife ?
It's as if they could care less if these civilians are killed.
That's what it sounds like, and imo that is wrong, according to the "Laws of War"; which Gaza looks like they're breaking.
Imo.
What are the laws of war, and how do they apply to the Israel-Gaza conflict?
Whether something is a war crime is a complex determination — and violations of International Humanitarian Law are notoriously difficult to prosecute
www.cbsnews.com
- Civilians must abstain from fighting;
- The party in control of the civilian population must not place them at heightened risk of harm by using them as human shields;
- The attacking force must take precautions to avoid or minimize excessive civilian casualties when attacking lawful targets.
And this task will be nearly impossible if Hamas, as it has consistently done in the past, uses civilians and now hostages to shield military targets.
While Israel bears primary responsibility to avoid excessive civilian deaths in its bombardment of Gaza, Hamas' ability to claim the bombardment constitutes a war crime would be weakened if it deliberately places its own people in harm's way.
Emphasis mine.
Some fairly objective points about the laws of war in this link.
It's as if Hamas expects Israel to abide by rule # 3; but ignores rules # 1 & 2 ?
Omo.
Imo.
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Israel launched its most intense assault so far on Hamas in Gaza, striking with jets, tanks and artillery, and also cut off communications in response to the Hamas terror attacks three weeks ago. NBC News’ Richard Engel reports as the Palestinian Red Crescent says it has lost contact with its staff running ambulances and emergency services.
Yep! And I'm hoping Congress won't spend one dime of U.S. taxpayer money in support of Israel's inhumane decision.
My heart goes out to the friends and families of the hostages being held in Gaza.
JMO
Hamas claims 50 Israeli hostages killed in Gaza, no proof given
Hamas has a history of reporting that hostages were killed in airstrikes after they had been executed by the terrorist group.
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Hamas claims 50 Israeli hostages killed in Gaza, no proof given
Hamas has a history of reporting that hostages were killed in airstrikes after they had been executed by the terrorist group.
www.jpost.com
''Hamas claims 50 Israeli hostages killed in Gaza, no proof given
Hamas has a history of reporting that hostages were killed in airstrikes after they had been executed by the terrorist group.''
;By SAM HALPERNOCTOBER 26, 2023 17:45Updated: OCTOBER 27, 2023 15:46On Wednesday, the Jerusalem Post reported that the IDF revealed Abu Obaida's true identity as Hudhayfah Kahlot.
"Al-Qassam Brigades estimates that the number of Zionist prisoners killed in the Gaza Strip as a result of Zionist bombing and massacres reached approximately 50 people," the Telegram statement said.'
It's nothing new for Hamas to blame Israel for Hamas murders. We saw that with the Hamas missile that fell onto the parking lot next to the hospital. Hamas claimed that Israel bombed the hospital and that 3-500 people were trapped under the rubble. There was no truth to anything that Hamas said about the hospital.
Hamas claims 50 Israeli hostages killed in Gaza, no proof given
Hamas has a history of reporting that hostages were killed in airstrikes after they had been executed by the terrorist group.''Hamas claims 50 Israeli hostages killed in Gaza, no proof given
Hamas has a history of reporting that hostages were killed in airstrikes after they had been executed by the terrorist group.''
;By SAM HALPERNOCTOBER 26, 2023 17:45Updated: OCTOBER 27, 2023 15:46
On Wednesday, the Jerusalem Post reported that the IDF revealed Abu Obaida's true identity as Hudhayfah Kahlot.
"Al-Qassam Brigades estimates that the number of Zionist prisoners killed in the Gaza Strip as a result of Zionist bombing and massacres reached approximately 50 people," the Telegram statement said.'
It's similar to the UN and Hamas stating 10 days ago that hospitals would run out of fuel within 24 hours. Here we are, still not out of fuel.
The Gaza City hospital cannot evacuate. This is not because there are patients in surgery, but because it would leave the Hamas Militant Operations Centre, underneath the hospital, unprotected.
The Gaza City hospital cannot evacuate. This is not because there are patients in surgery, but because it would leave the Hamas Militant Operations Centre, underneath the hospital, unprotected.
Very sad news. iirc, Hamas Health Minister provided names of all deceased. May they RIP.
Hamas claims 50 Israeli hostages killed in Gaza, no proof given
Hamas has a history of reporting that hostages were killed in airstrikes after they had been executed by the terrorist group.''Hamas claims 50 Israeli hostages killed in Gaza, no proof given
Hamas has a history of reporting that hostages were killed in airstrikes after they had been executed by the terrorist group.''
;By SAM HALPERNOCTOBER 26, 2023 17:45Updated: OCTOBER 27, 2023 15:46
On Wednesday, the Jerusalem Post reported that the IDF revealed Abu Obaida's true identity as Hudhayfah Kahlot.
"Al-Qassam Brigades estimates that the number of Zionist prisoners killed in the Gaza Strip as a result of Zionist bombing and massacres reached approximately 50 people," the Telegram statement said.'
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Israel is trying to minimize civilian casualties. That’s why it’s urging civilians to move out of harm’s way.
Hamas is trying to maximize civilian casualties in Gaza. That’s why its military HQ is under Gaza’s hospital.
There was a ceasefire.
Hamas broke it on October 7.
It doesn’t get another breather just because it’s getting clobbered.
Hamas is trying to maximize civilian casualties in Gaza. That’s why its military HQ is under Gaza’s hospital.
There was a ceasefire.
Hamas broke it on October 7.
It doesn’t get another breather just because it’s getting clobbered.
Do you recall where you saw the list? I'd like to see the list, or that it was provided to Israel, as we have seen names and ages of 222 victims.
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The Islamic Resistance in Iraq has announced that it has carried out an Attack tonight utilizing 2 “Kamikaze” Drones against the U.S. Operations Base at Al-Tanf in Southern Syria near the Border with Jordan and Iraq.
According to Senior U.S. Officials in Washington, the IDF’s Objective of the Intense Air and Ground Operations tonight in the Gaza Strip alongside the United States calling for a Humanaitrian Ceasefire has been a “Final Push” by both Countries to see the Release of the Hostages in the Strip before the beginning of the Full-Scale Ground Invasion which many of them may not Survive; however despite hopes that this would make Hamas realize this is the Last Opportunity for them to Negotiate there has so far been No Progress in the Negotiations since the Attacks began.
Yes, Yes, Yes, 1,000x Yes. There is no one to blame for what is going on Israel right now besides Hamas, Iran, and the People who are providing them Support and the ability to commit these Heinous Actions. Whatever happens from here is the Appropriate Response to these Actions.
According to Senior U.S. Officials in Washington, the IDF’s Objective of the Intense Air and Ground Operations tonight in the Gaza Strip alongside the United States calling for a Humanaitrian Ceasefire has been a “Final Push” by both Countries to see the Release of the Hostages in the Strip before the beginning of the Full-Scale Ground Invasion which many of them may not Survive; however despite hopes that this would make Hamas realize this is the Last Opportunity for them to Negotiate there has so far been No Progress in the Negotiations since the Attacks began.
Yes, Yes, Yes, 1,000x Yes. There is no one to blame for what is going on Israel right now besides Hamas, Iran, and the People who are providing them Support and the ability to commit these Heinous Actions. Whatever happens from here is the Appropriate Response to these Actions.
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Each and every one of these toddlers from Be’eri was butchered by Hamas terrorists.
Tomorrow will mark three weeks since the day our children were murdered in their beds.
We cannot and will not forget these evil horrors.
10.07.2023
Tomorrow will mark three weeks since the day our children were murdered in their beds.
We cannot and will not forget these evil horrors.
10.07.2023
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4hr ago
Kirby says the US is still evaluating the impact of airstrikes against Iranian-backed militias and “we will not hesitate to take further actions in our own self-defense.”
He also says 10 additional trucks filled with humanitarian aid have made it to Gaza, bringing the total to 84, but that the US is aware that fuel there “is only anticipated to last a couple of days.”
4hr ago
“Israel intends to eliminate Hamas just as the world dealt with the Nazis and ISIS,” Cohen says.
39min ago
“The House of Representatives stands with Israel and I reaffirmed our strong support,” Johnson writes in a post on X.
White House says ‘not drawing red lines for Israel’
“We’re not drawing red lines for Israel,” Kirby says on a call with reporters. “We’re going to continue to support them” but “since the very beginning we have, and will continue to have, conversations about the manner that they are doing this.”Kirby says the US is still evaluating the impact of airstrikes against Iranian-backed militias and “we will not hesitate to take further actions in our own self-defense.”
He also says 10 additional trucks filled with humanitarian aid have made it to Gaza, bringing the total to 84, but that the US is aware that fuel there “is only anticipated to last a couple of days.”
4hr ago
FM Eli Cohen slams ‘despicable’ UN resolution urging ceasefire
Foreign Minister Eli Cohen decries a “despicable” resolution passed by the UN General Assembly that calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, amid the ongoing war sparked by the Hamas onslaught in southern Israel on October 7.“Israel intends to eliminate Hamas just as the world dealt with the Nazis and ISIS,” Cohen says.
39min ago
New US House speaker holds phone call with Netanyahu, stresses ‘strong support’ for Israel
New US House Speaker Mike Johnson says he spoke by phone this evening with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, days after the Louisiana lawmaker was elected to the post by fellow Republicans.“The House of Representatives stands with Israel and I reaffirmed our strong support,” Johnson writes in a post on X.
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Demonstrators call for a ceasefire between Israel and Gaza-ruling Hamas terror group, during a protest organized by Jewish Voice for Peace at Grand Central Station in New York City on October 27, 2023. (Kena Betancur/AFP)
The Metropolitan Transit Authority says New York City’s Grand Central Terminal has been closed “until further protest” as the result of a demonstration calling for a ceasefire in the war between Israel and the Gaza-ruling Hamas terror group.
Photos from the train station show police detaining numerous protesters, whom are clad in black shirts with slogans such as “Jews say ceasefire now.” The protest was organized by Jewish Voice for Peace, an anti-Zionist group.
Urging ceasefire in Gaza, protest held by anti-Zionist group shutters NYC’s Grand Central
Demonstrators call for a ceasefire between Israel and Gaza-ruling Hamas terror group, during a protest organized by Jewish Voice for Peace at Grand Central Station in New York City on October 27, 2023. (Kena Betancur/AFP)
The Metropolitan Transit Authority says New York City’s Grand Central Terminal has been closed “until further protest” as the result of a demonstration calling for a ceasefire in the war between Israel and the Gaza-ruling Hamas terror group.
Photos from the train station show police detaining numerous protesters, whom are clad in black shirts with slogans such as “Jews say ceasefire now.” The protest was organized by Jewish Voice for Peace, an anti-Zionist group.
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Israel-Hamas war live: Hamas says it’s ‘ready’ for Israeli ground invasion; UN general assembly calls for immediate truce (theguardian.com)
3m ago02.56 BST
Here are some of the latest images of Gaza coming in via news agency wires as Israel intensified its bombardment of the territory overnight on Friday.
Balls of fire and smoke rise above Gaza City. Photograph: Yousef Hassouna/AFP/Getty Images
Smoke from explosions in the northern Gaza Strip. Photograph: Abed Khaled/AP
Blasts and smoke northern Gaza. Photograph: Abed Khaled/AP
A salvo of rockets fired from Gaza City. Photograph: Yousef Hassouna/AFP/Getty Images
Flares fired by the Israeli army light up the sky east of Khan Yunis, southern Gaza. Photograph: Said Khatib/AFP/Getty Images
3m ago02.56 BST
Here are some of the latest images of Gaza coming in via news agency wires as Israel intensified its bombardment of the territory overnight on Friday.
Balls of fire and smoke rise above Gaza City. Photograph: Yousef Hassouna/AFP/Getty Images
Smoke from explosions in the northern Gaza Strip. Photograph: Abed Khaled/AP
Blasts and smoke northern Gaza. Photograph: Abed Khaled/AP
A salvo of rockets fired from Gaza City. Photograph: Yousef Hassouna/AFP/Getty Images
Flares fired by the Israeli army light up the sky east of Khan Yunis, southern Gaza. Photograph: Said Khatib/AFP/Getty Images
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