Kyron's parents' statements, interviews

[Calliope]

Considering possible target audience(s)for yesterday's taping for the Oregonian (the Largest local circulation,etc.)

The target audience wasn't us. (Obviously). No new information about Kyron.

But, when the reporter asked Kaine & Desiree directly why they feel others could be involved or know what happened to Kyron, and if they felt Dede was involved, Kaine sidestepped a little. The answer was something like this: over the years they have learned how Terri operates. Terri didn't necessarily tell someone the whole truth, but she may have told many different people a part of the truth - and those people do not realize that they might know something helpful or important to finding Kyron. Upon taking all these pieces of the truth and considering them together, they contend they believe it will be helpful in figuring out the real truth.

Sadly, they are begging for even tidbits. They are repainting the picture of Terri for anyone who might be withholding information - so that they will come forward with anything - even a small thing.

Message for any of Terri's friends and associates: Here's the REAL Terri. She lies. She fooled us. She lied to you. She fooled you. Think about what you know and tell us and help us find Kyron. (This may include Dede & her counsel...)

Message for any actual accomplices, or those with knowledge of accomplices and/or those holding Kyron: Here's the REAL Terri. She lies. She fooled us She lied to you. She fooled you. You are helping her based upon her lies. Tell us what you know. Help bring Kyron home.

Message for Terri's Legal Team: Here's what you are dealing with. An accomplished liar. A complicated, layered and sick person who may also be an addict. Handle with care. Help Terri bring Kyron home.

JMHO - another possible context for the interview objectives of Team Kyron.

bbm

Kaine: So that stuff that we've shared through announcements, it's from her.

Desiree: Yeah. Correct. Yeah.


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[cakegirl0905]

Respectfully....... no. Not really. If it were me, and I knew that happened 6-7 months ago, I guess I would be thinking... I'm still alive, so either she called it off, gave up, and changed her mind. And I would not associate wanting to kill ME as wanting to kill MY SON. There's a little difference there. IMHO.
And I doubt that I would think she had thoughts of doing harm to her own sweet baby, just because at one time she wanted me dead.

I have to say that anyone with a serious thought of harming their spouse can "git-er-done"... IF they really want to. I'm thinking that if the deed wasn't done in that length of time... it wasn't gonna happen. IMO.

Disagree. I think the landscaper couldn't do it or didn't want to and that TH didn't find anyone else to kill him.

Someone who is capable of putting a hit on their husband is capable of evil. Period. She is an angry person who would wanted to hurt Kaine. And prob. Desiree as well.

 

[krazyfingerzz]

NO... not me, not at all.
To believe Terri may not be the one responsible does not equate to the bio mom or dad being responsible. There are other possibilities.

Not me, either. I fell off the fence a while ago, concussing myself in the process, and the amnesia makes it impossible to say when it happened. I still cannot come up with a reason, but so often (look at Ethan Stacy, or Shaniya, etc) there are no reasons. I still doubt the ability of TH to pull that off in such a short amount of time, but some of her other acts (like MFH) make me wonder if she didn't have a complex plan in place. If only TH had or would just tell LE, definitively, where she was, we could put that line of questioning to rest. Someone online posted something like this, as an example of a horribly embarrassing scenario that you wouldn't want known but would admit to if a child in your care had gone missing (or even if the child wasn't in your care but people questioned where you were):

"Officer, I am secretly a male impersonator and was servicing 3 clients in my car, drinking and doing some drugs, between the hours of 9 & 12...there are pictures to prove it."

If I ever find out that TH wouldn't talk just to save herself embarrassment, I'll have a coronary. But she isn't answering the questions, for some reason, or she wouldn't be in the position she's in. Do I blame the rest of the family for having no clue? I guess not, and certainly they are airing their own embarrassing bits. For me, then, the blame goes back to TH, if only for simply not clearing up the fog that is preventing the investigation from moving on to what really happened to Kyron. And I suspect no one really cares about anything more than that. Where is Kyron?

 

[WhyaDuck?]

I thought they were considered victims. :waitasec:

Sorry I missed where the mods were referring to them now as "players" or just principals in this case. Did this just happen?

FWIW, it's been a word I have seen used around these boards as long as I have been here, which, admittedly, hasn't been very long. I've always taken it as meaning "participant" (not perp, etc, without connotations of innocence or guilt, etc.), and have not taken offence to it.

However, since I see it bothers some so much, I will try to be more sensitive when using it myself.

 

[Adrienne37]

You know, I used to think this board was a pro-victim board; however, I'm not really seeing that anymore, not only on this case but several more here. I guess I can see why I have been a member here for 6 years and haven't logged 500 posts. It's easy to sit back and complain about people and their behaviors, and to be able to dissect every single thing that you see or hear from them but until you've walked in their shoes, then maybe you should offer them a little bit of respect and a little bit of courtesy. Kaine and Desiree are Kyron's parents and they deserve a little bit of respect and they deserve sympathy, they've lost their son. Who cares what Desiree looks like now as opposed to how she looked in the beginning. Does that have any bearing at all on where Kyron is at? I can only hope that none of you ever have a child go missing because I don't think any of you could stand up to the intense scrutiny that happens on this board. They don't owe us anything, nothing, nada. If you don't want to hear what they say, there is a simple remedy to that, don't listen, watch, or read. When Kaine and Desiree were not addressing the media, you were all on a witchunt because they weren't talking and now that they are, you're doing the same thing. I guess I just don't get how easy it is to sit back and bash, and bash, and bash these people. What I see are two people who are desperate to find their son and who loved their son deeply. I don't care that Desiree didn't make Kyron's bed or put his toys away. I don't care that Kaine screwed around on Desiree when she was pregnant. I don't care that Desiree wears her hair curly one day or straight the next. I don't care that Kaine didn't notice Terri's drinking. I don't care that Kaine was completely oblivious to his wife's routine at home when he wasn't there. I don't care that he butted heads with his stepson. I don't care that there was only one picture of Kyron hung in Desiree's home. None of these things are important in the great scheme of things. Kyron is missing. They want their son back. That is the important thing and all of that falls by the wayside. JMO.

 

[TxLady2]

I don't see how this interview could be used by Terri's defense in the (decreasingly likely) event she ever goes to trial for either the MFH or Kyron's disappearance. She wouldn't be prosecuted based on whether or not, many years before the crime, she slept with a married man, drank herself to sleep, lost too much weight in too short a time, or habitually lied to her husband's ex. There's no defense that goes "The victim's parents said mean things about me, and it wasn't all true."
If Terri is indicted for a crime, there will be evidence and testimony about the crime that the defense attorney will have to contend with, and I doubt he would even want to call the victim's parents to the stand if he could keep from it.
Now, if Terri would like to sue Desiree and Kaine for libel, then that's a separate issue from a criminal trial, and she'll need to be prepared to prove that what they are saying is untrue.
We went through a lot of these same issues when Beth Holloway was talking about Joran van der Sloot.

I disagree. Defense has the chance to put on a case as well as the prosecution, and they will bring up all kinds of things via their own witnesses.
He will certainly point out the tunnel vision of LE, the character assassination of Terri in the media by the bio parents, and he will certainly delve into things from the past regarding all of them. In short, he will attempt to convey to the jury that Terri never stood a chance, that she was tried and convicted in the media before she was ever charged. It's called reasonable doubt, and he will certainly try to provide that.
It all depends on the jury. People have been convicted because they didn't come across as believable and the jury as a whole didn't like them. And people have been acquitted because their lawyers were successful at creating reasonable doubt. It's not always about justice. It's about which side is good enough to win.

 

[Calliope]

BBM

That is why in North America you don't have to prove innocence, but the onus is on the crown/prosecution to prove guilt. It's virtually impossible to prove innocence.

Absolutely. But in reality? Here, elsewhere on the internet, in the media? It's expected that suspects prove their innocence... and if they can't, they're convicted (and worse).

 

[Chewy]

So what I'm seeing people saying is that all of this, the fact that Kyron IS missing, the MFH plot, the opinions of the people closest to Terri, the RO, the failed polygraphs etc. All of these things are just random coincidences and the fact that someone tried to have you murdered was no big deal cause it was a few months ago and you're still alive (even though your kid is missing)

All of this is just some giant conspiracy against Terri ............


Wow no wonder OJ walked.

 

[Emma Peel]

I have to wonder exactly what Kaine was told.

Did the LS come to police with this story six months later? For what? Attention? Or good citizen? (Well, not that good or he'd have come forward months ago!)

When they tried to set up the sting, was Terri just sooo smart that she was onto them and called 911 to cover? (But not so smart that she doesn't know about cell phone pings or text messaging being traceable.)

Have we heard one word from LE about this MFH??? No. Only in the RO. For all we know, they told Kaine that the LS came forward with this story, they haven't been able to verify it at all (obviously, or she'd be arrested), but they have to tell him for his safety (CYA). Since we don't know what LE has told Kaine, or even what the LS told LE, we really don't know. It could be that Terri told the LS that Kaine kept saying he was going to trim the hedges and cut the grass but never got around to it and she was sick of waiting. "Sometimes I could just kill him! Or at least pay someone to do it for me."

I will wait for LE to comment before I take the MFH too seriously.

BBM

Does anyone recall if he went to LE or did LE find him?

TH's cell phone records led back to him. So the landscaper didn't come forward - police went to him and that's when they found out about the murder for hire plot, then they warned Kaine.

They got the landscaper to wear a wire and contact TH for money, but she must have been suspicious and cut off the conversation. About the Sting

Hi Thought, I'm confused. I've now re-read that article you linked three time and I don't see anything where LE declared that they'd gone to LS after cellphone records led to him.

This is the first I've read that cellphone records caused the LS to emerge from the shadows.

Anyone have any links?

IIRC, It was Bank/payment records led back to the LS. Kaine did not know this LS was being paid to do landscaping. Logically, cellphone records followed shortly thereafter. The cellphone records likely disclosed a more personal relationship - and provided considerable leverage (I'd imagine) to get the LS to tell the MFH story...

The FBI exploded a marriage, ripped a baby form it's mother, and orchestrated a sting based on the LS info. The sting failed. But I don't think the FBI acted on a wild arse hunch.

In other words, LE has spoken. Actually, YELLED.

Could the LS have duped LE on a lark and invented a MFH story to tell LE - one where the LE decided not to alerted LE of the threat to a man's life? I suppose, but I haven't been able to figure out why the LS would do that. :waitasec:

 

[Amster]

FWIW, It's been a word I have seen used around these boards as long as I have been here, which, admittedly, hasn't been very long. I've always taken it as meaning "participant" (not perp, etc, without connotations of innocence or guilt, etc.), and have not taken offence to it.

However, since I see it bothers some so much, I will try to be more sensitive when using it myself.

From what I've seen, maybe one other person besides me even questioned it. Obviously just something I missed. My bad..:blushing:

 

[TxLady2]

Disagree. I think the landscaper couldn't do it or didn't want to and that TH didn't find anyone else to kill him.

Someone who is capable of putting a hit on their husband is capable of evil. Period. She is an angry person who would wanted to hurt Kaine. And prob. Desiree as well.

The poster was asking for opinions. That was mine.
We have no proof that Terri did try to hire a hitman. In fact, she alledgedly approached the landscaper about it. Why would a person hire a landscaper to kill their husband, why not just go directly to a hitman? Last I heard, most landscapers don't run murder-for-hire businesses on the side.
Seven months and the deed was not accomplished. I would say that if she is truly that evil, she would have wanted it done quicker than that.
And there is no evidence that she wanted to kill Desiree... let's not jump to conclusions, shall we??
JMO, and all that.

 

[Calliope]

I disagree. Defense has the chance to put on a case as well as the prosecution, and they will bring up all kinds of things via their own witnesses.
He will certainly point out the tunnel vision of LE, the character assassination of Terri in the media by the bio parents, and he will certainly delve into things from the past regarding all of them. In short, he will attempt to convey to the jury that Terri never stood a chance, that she was tried and convicted in the media before she was ever charged. It's called reasonable doubt, and he will certainly try to provide that.
It all depends on the jury. People have been convicted because they didn't come across as believable and the jury as a whole didn't like them. And people have been acquitted because their lawyers were successful at creating reasonable doubt. It's not always about justice. It's about which side is good enough to win.

Sad, but true. Why I believe Kaine and Desiree need to think long and hard about what they're doing, and how it's going to come back to haunt them down the road.

 

[Calliope]

The poster was asking for opinions. That was mine.
We have no proof that Terri did try to hire a hitman. In fact, she alledgedly approached the landscaper about it. Why would a person hire a landscaper to kill their husband, why not just go directly to a hitman? Last I heard, most landscapers don't run murder-for-hire businesses on the side.
Seven months and the deed was not accomplished. I would say that if she is truly that evil, she would have wanted it done quicker than that.
And there is no evidence that she wanted to kill Desiree... let's not jump to conclusions, shall we??
JMO, and all that.

fwiw, I think she meant hurt Desiree by hurting Kyron. At least that's how I read it.

 

[grandmaj]

I only felt more compassion for these parents after this audio. I did not see them employed in character assination of Terri at all. What I saw were two parents who were being asked questions and some of the answers were frank and honest. Difficult to hear maybe, but I believe they were honest.

I believe that in a marriage it takes 2 people with the will and the ability to open up to each other in order make that marriage work. There are people who shut down when confronted with problems in personal relationships. It isn't that they are unable to love, just unable to perhaps feel rejection. And let's face it every marriage has points when things become stale because we tend to start devoting more time to kids, work, crime boards :biggrin: .... I think Kaine may be one of those people who shuts down. And he might have been with the wrong mate because Terri appears to need constant stimulation and adoration. Oil and Vinegar. That doesn't make Kaine a bad man. He is what he is, and perhaps needs the kind of mate that will say no don't shut down let's talk this through. And instead maybe he is with someone who is saying I need, I want, I deserve.

Kaine talked about the liquor problem back in the time around 2005..... the current liquor question? He qualified that saying that recently a couple of friends came to him and told him that their liquor supply was down following visits from Kaine and Terri. Let's not miss some of his statements in this regard. He isn't saying this has been going on for 7 years. He said he learned recently from friends this could be an issue. Alcoholics can be very sneaky.

What I'm getting is a picture that Kaine did his thing, Terri did hers and there wasn't a strong US. I wouldn't even hazard to guess how many couples live like this all of their married lives. But, most spouses don't try to take a hit out on their spouse. Just because the sting didn't work doesn't mean it didn't happen. And LE felt strongly enough about the possibility to warn Kaine to get out of that house with K. That tells me there is more to it. Kaine didn't want to believe it. He had to be convinced. He was carrying on like he always had. Until the facts slapped him right between the eyes. He is probably feeling so much guilt and remorse right now for being blind to things that now in retrospect he is suddenly seeing with different eyes.

The fact that Kaine and Desiree said several times during the interview we cannot discuss it, because it has to do with the investigation is a strong indication that indeed they are working with Law Enforcement and some things have been shared.

The Dede thing. I have friends that I have made who have never been to my home. They are people who I work with or have met through business who my husband hears me refer to. He has met some a few times others he has never met. They are work friendships and in that I'm in a profession totally different than most people, he has really nothing in common with these friends. So my husband's answer might be very similar if asked about my friends. There is nothing suspicious about that especially if this is a bud of Terri's from the gym or gardening or met through a mutual friend. Unless I hear more I don't see Kaine not knowing about her as a red flag.

Why won't Kaine tell where he met Terri? I guess it is none of anyone's business. Kaine and Desiree have apprarently talked this over and decided what they are going to share and what they feel has no bearing. I don't see it as a negative. They are not the people that LE has focused on.

This couple has shared more than most victims have shared in any case I have followed. If this couple had not been willing to put their own human failings out there, we might be sitting here with a empty forum with no threads. Because the information we are gleaning is from this couple. Yes some of it personal but more of it is what they know to be true based on their observations. I have a choice to believe it at face value or I can say based on my life experience there has to be more.

But more importantly here, Terri could have at any time issued statements. She could have participated with the family in efforts to cooperate fully with LE no matter what it took out of her. I don't believe for a minute that Kaine told her to be quiet. She is alleged to have tried to have him killed. So now I'm to believe that if Kaine told her not to talk she wouldn't? NOPE. FB, sexting, texting, I think she was doing plenty of talking. Just not about Kyron. Instead she made it all about her, the persecution was was feeling because LE was being forceful with her. She whined about failing LD's. Her cell phone pings. She didn't make any effort to assist in the familys plans each day to get the word out and move mountains to bring Kyron home. IMO if you have nothing to hide you suck it up and make it about Kyron and not all about you. The way Kaine and Desiree have. Yes even having to share your faults.

NOPE instead in walks M. Cook. Terri was once again the center of her own world. Well yes she is. She is the center of a very serious investigation. Her world may just be all about her and only her in the future.

The fact is there is a Grand Jury seated. Do they have evidence enough to indict and then prosecute Terri? We will know soon. And maybe then some facts will come to light.

I hope for Kyron's sake and the sake of the family of victims that have been subjected to the cruelty of taking their child away, that this is soon over for them. They can't take much more from the looks of Desiree yesterday.

ETA the comment about spending time on the crime boards was a self-infliction joke on myself. I think it is time to take my hubby out for a date soon.

 

[cakegirl0905]

The poster was asking for opinions. That was mine.
We have no proof that Terri did try to hire a hitman. In fact, she alledgedly approached the landscaper about it. Why would a person hire a landscaper to kill their husband, why not just go directly to a hitman? Last I heard, most landscapers don't run murder-for-hire businesses on the side.
Seven months and the deed was not accomplished. I would say that if she is truly that evil, she would have wanted it done quicker than that.
And there is no evidence that she wanted to kill Desiree... let's not jump to conclusions, shall we??
JMO, and all that.

People who are evil don't always act quickly. Some people plan for months and months on how to kill or harm someone.

What happened with Kyron was very planned, very calculated. She waited for the perfect moment to get rid of him.

 

[eyes4crime]

IIRC, It was Bank/payment records led back to the LS. Kaine did not know this LS was being paid to do landscaping. Logically, cellphone records followed shortly thereafter. The cellphone records likely disclosed a more personal relationship - and provided considerable leverage (I'd imagine) to get the LS to tell the MFH story...

The FBI exploded a marriage, ripped a baby form it's mother, and orchestrated a sting based on the LS info. The sting failed. But I don't think the FBI acted on a wild arse hunch.

In other words, LE has spoken. Actually, YELLED.

Could the LS have duped LE on a lark and invented a MFH story to tell LE - one where the LE decided not to alerted LE of the threat to a man's life? I suppose, but I haven't been able to figure out why the LS would do that. :waitasec:

BBM
Maybe the gardener wanted to plea down a charge of some kind. Seems to me a story like the one he gave would do the trick. moo mho

 

[Kat010]

Thanks, Emma.

About that "15 minutes"--did anyone else hear someone banging on the door or opening it, then a male voice says "we're not done in here yet" and at some point says "you'll get your 15 minutes."

So, were KH & DY just doing a series of interviews, one after the other?

Meanwhile, I'm suspicious of that LS and his story.

But sooooo confused about everthing right now. Right now, there's more BS than there is bull....

 

[human]

I only felt more compassion for these parents after this audio. I did not see them employed in character assination of Terri at all. What I saw were two parents who were being asked questions and some of the answers were frank and honest. Difficult to hear maybe, but I believe they were honest.

I believe that in a marriage it takes 2 people with the will and the ability to open up to each other in order make that marriage work. There are people who shut down when confronted with problems in personal relationships. It isn't that they are unable to love, just unable to perhaps feel rejection. And let's face it every marriage has points when things become stale because we tend to start devoting more time to kids, work, crime boards :biggrin: .... I think Kaine may be one of those people who shuts down. And he might have been with the wrong mate because Terri appears to need constant stimulation and adoration. Oil and Vinegar. That doesn't make Kaine a bad man. He is what he is, and perhaps needs the kind of mate that will say no don't shut down let's talk this through. And instead maybe he is with someone who is saying I need, I want, I deserve.

Kaine talked about the liquor problem back in the time around 2005..... the current liquor question? He qualified that saying that recently a couple of friends came to him and told him that their liquor supply was down following visits from Kaine and Terri. Let's not miss some of his statements in this regard. He isn't saying this has been going on for 7 years. He said he learned recently from friends this could be an issue. Alcoholics can be very sneaky.

What I'm getting is a picture that Kaine did his thing, Terri did hers and there wasn't a strong US. I wouldn't even hazard to guess how many couples live like this all of their married lives. But, most spouses don't try to take a hit out on their spouse. Just because the sting didn't work doesn't mean it didn't happen. And LE felt strongly enough about the possibility to warn Kaine to get out of that house with K. That tells me there is more to it. Kaine didn't want to believe it. He had to be convinced. He was carrying on like he always had. Until the facts slapped him right between the eyes. He is probably feeling so much guilt and remorse right now for being blind to things that now in retrospect he is suddenly seeing with different eyes.

The fact that Kaine and Desiree said several times during the interview we cannot discuss it, because it has to do with the investigation is a strong indication that indeed they are working with Law Enforcement and some things have been shared.

The Dede thing. I have friends that I have made who have never been to my home. They are people who I work with or have met through business who my husband hears me refer to. He has met some a few times others he has never met. They are work friendships and in that I'm in a profession totally different than most people, he has really nothing in common with these friends. So my husband's answer might be very similar if asked about my friends. There is nothing suspicious about that especially if this is a bud of Terri's from the gym or gardening or met through a mutual friend. Unless I hear more I don't see Kaine not knowing about her as a red flag.

Why won't Kaine tell where he met Terri? I guess it is none of anyone's business. Kaine and Desiree have apprarently talked this over and decided what they are going to share and what they feel has no bearing. I don't see it as a negative. They are not the people that LE has focused on.

This couple has shared more than most victims have shared in any case I have followed. If this couple had not been willing to put their own human failings out there, we might be sitting here with a empty forum with no threads. Because the information we are gleaning is from this couple. Yes some of it personal but more of it is what they know to be true based on their observations. I have a choice to believe it at face value or I can say based on my life experience there has to be more.

But more importantly here, Terri could have at any time issued statements. She could have participated with the family in efforts to cooperate fully with LE no matter what it took out of her. I don't believe for a minute that Kaine told her to be quiet. She is alleged to have tried to have him killed. So now I'm to believe that if Kaine told her not to talk she wouldn't? NOPE. FB, sexting, texting, I think she was doing plenty of talking. Just not about Kyron. Instead she made it all about her, the persecution was was feeling because LE was being forceful with her. She whined about failing LD's. Her cell phone pings. She didn't make any effort to assist in the familys plans each day to get the word out and move mountains to bring Kyron home. IMO if you have nothing to hide you suck it up and make it about Kyron and not all about you. The way Kaine and Desiree have. Yes even having to share your faults.

NOPE instead in walks M. Cook. Terri was once again the center of her own world. Well yes she is. She is the center of a very serious investigation. Her world may just be all about her and only her in the future.

The fact is there is a Grand Jury seated. Do they have evidence enough to indict and then prosecute Terri? We will know soon. And maybe then some facts will come to light.

I hope for Kyron's sake and the sake of the family of victims that have been subjected to the cruelty of taking their child away, that this is soon over for them. They can't take much more from the looks of Desiree yesterday.

that is so beautifully written that I want to quote it at the top of every page.

Really. Wow.

 

[scotslass]

You know, I used to think this board was a pro-victim board; however, I'm not really seeing that anymore, not only on this case but several more here. I guess I can see why I have been a member here for 6 years and haven't logged 500 posts. It's easy to sit back and complain about people and their behaviors, and to be able to dissect every single thing that you see or hear from them but until you've walked in their shoes, then maybe you should offer them a little bit of respect and a little bit of courtesy. Kaine and Desiree are Kyron's parents and they deserve a little bit of respect and they deserve sympathy, they've lost their son. Who cares what Desiree looks like now as opposed to how she looked in the beginning. Does that have any bearing at all on where Kyron is at? I can only hope that none of you ever have a child go missing because I don't think any of you could stand up to the intense scrutiny that happens on this board. They don't owe us anything, nothing, nada. If you don't want to hear what they say, there is a simple remedy to that, don't listen, watch, or read. When Kaine and Desiree were not addressing the media, you were all on a witchunt because they weren't talking and now that they are, you're doing the same thing. I guess I just don't get how easy it is to sit back and bash, and bash, and bash these people. What I see are two people who are desperate to find their son and who loved their son deeply. I don't care that Desiree didn't make Kyron's bed or put his toys away. I don't care that Kaine screwed around on Desiree when she was pregnant. I don't care that Desiree wears her hair curly one day or straight the next. I don't care that Kaine didn't notice Terri's drinking. I don't care that Kaine was completely oblivious to his wife's routine at home when he wasn't there. I don't care that he butted heads with his stepson. I don't care that there was only one picture of Kyron hung in Desiree's home. None of these things are important in the great scheme of things. Kyron is missing. They want their son back. That is the important thing and all of that falls by the wayside. JMO.

Thank you for your eloquent post and i do respect your point of view, however in regards to the"pro victim stance" As it stands with Th not being called a POI by LE I also at this moment in time think of her as a victim too. She raised this little boy and without hearing her side I'm going to give her that she has at this point lost all 3 of children and still no arrest just alot of accusations which may be true or untrue. I hope i have never posted in a manner that would be seen as bashing the parents involved in this case, I do feel for them and thank god i'm not in their shoes and pray to God i never will be. JMO

 

[angelmom]

So what I'm seeing people saying is that all of this, the fact that Kyron IS missing, the MFH plot, the opinions of the people closest to Terri, the RO, the failed polygraphs etc. All of these things are just random coincidences and the fact that someone tried to have you murdered was no big deal cause it was a few months ago and you're still alive (even though your kid is missing)

All of this is just some giant conspiracy against Terri ............


Wow no wonder OJ walked.

The only thing on your list that has been confirmed by LE is that Kyron is missing.

We know there is an RO, but since Terri has followed her lawyer's advice and not challenged it, we don't know if it would even hold up in court.

The MFH has never been stated by LE, nor are there charges.

The opinions of those closest to Terri? Who would that be? Her husband who can't decide if she was a perfect mother or a raging drunk? Or her husband's ex-wife who she saw briefly every other weekend and apparently sent too many emails? The friends and people who like Terri haven't had anything bad to say - even her ex!

And the failed poly - well, again, it's only a rumor. LE has not said she failed. Did she? Maybe. Kaine says Terri says LE says she was evasive on part of the test. Which part? The part about their marriage or the part about knowing where Kyron is? And there's a reason those aren't allowed in court.

A very far cry from OJ's DNA at the crime scene.

Again, I'm not on Terri's "side." I want Kyron found. I want the REAL perp found. I just don't know who that is.