Identified! LA - Slidell, WhtFem 20-30, UP852, Breast Implants, Pregnant Jun'86 Pamela Lee Hupp

[Sunshinelady]

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/alberti_babette.html

This one seems possible BUT jane doe didn't have any tatoos listed in her description and if she had as many as Babette then they probably would have been listed. They just strike me a being very similar in their facial features and they are both petitie.

I don't that is her but I believe this one is a possible match for Babette Alberti. Someone mentioned this on the Doe Network guestbook a few years ago, so I don't want to take credit for this if it is indeed a match. I don't know if anyone ever loooked into it or not.

http://doenetwork.org/cases/191ufla.html

 

[ihadcabinfever]

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/z/zane_april.html

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/100ufor.html

It looks like they have the same nose and mouth.
Huh...

 

[anthrobones]

Bumping up

 

[Angel4Alpha]

Does anyone know if they ever tried to match this one suggested earlier in the thread ? She definately fits the profile and even resembles the model of the UID - joyce irene walcott :http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/370dfca.html

Here are a couple I think are possible matches -


Amanda Fravel
Missing since summer of 1986 from Las Vegas, Nevada
Classification: Missing

Vital Statistics

• Age at Time of Disappearance: 20 years old
• Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair. Short, petite build, small frame.
• Dentals: Not available. Mandy took exceptional care of her teeth and had perfect hygiene.
• AKA: Mandy

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2491dfnv.html

and this one possible because of marriage and time frame and resemblance as well as location - but not too much information is given:


Judy Ann Gary
Missing since about August 1986 from St. Martinville, St. Martin Parish, Louisiana
Classification: Missing

Vital Statistics

• Date Of Birth: October 5, 1966
• Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
• Distinguishing Characteristics: White female.

This last one seems odd that le didnt seem concerned at all and even gave this statement : Gary was last seen in St. Martinville, Louisiana in the late summer of 1986. She left on foot to go to the pharmacy for her mother, and never returned.
At the time of her disappearance, she was married and had a child. The family tried to file a missing persons report but was told that she was a wild girl and she would come home when she wanted to. As a result, a missing persons report was never filed on her disappearance.
There has been no activity on her social security number since she disappeared.

 

[1morehome]

I am new to the community, and would like to ask what is the next step when you may have a possible match. My state is Louisiana, I haven't heard much from this area. I have begun my searches in this state, and there is one case in particular that I would like to see solved. That is the Doenetwork #16UFLA, Pontchartrain Doe case of 1986. This case seems solvable to me. There is a finger print on her plus dna and dentals. I think this perp could be caught too.And surely there must be a surgen, Dentist, or OBGYN, [she was pregnant] that has some record of her. I know it might take legwork and $$. I'd like to hear from anyone who has worked on it, or has any information. It can be overwhelming when you see so many cases unanswered and it is best to concentrate efforts to one at a time. But I have found 2 cases that seem to be possible matches: Doenetwork case http://doenetwork.org/cases/3292dmca.html looks like a good match for http://doenetwork.org/cases/490umla.html and http://www.nampn.org/cases/fagg_lonnie_l.html seems an almost certain match for http://doenetwork.org/cases/1067umla.html. Anyone have a comment?

 

[rhyno1974]

NAMPN Lonnis Lee Fagg seems an almost certain match for Hot case #388.

I cannot find Hot Case 388 on the doenetwork. Do you have a link to it?

 

[outofthedark]

You can either phone in the PM with the DoeNet provided contacts or find an email for the LE department doing the case

 

[1morehome]

I cannot find Hot Case 388 on the doenetwork. Do you have a link to it?

thank you. hot case 388 has been changed to http://doenetwork.org/cases1067UMLA. what do you think about this as a match? Another possibility is http://www.nampn.org/case3s/Zimmerman_john.html.

 

[1morehome]

Thank you outofthedark. I appreciate it.

 

[Richard]

bumping case up...

 

[Richard]

There is a rather long thread on the Lake Ponchartrain Jane Doe. Here is a link to it:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community Thread title: Unidentified White Female found 19 June 1986, Lake Ponchartrain, LA -

LINK:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33106&highlight=Pontchartrain

 

[concernedperson]

Does anyone know if they ever tried to match this one suggested earlier in the thread ? She definately fits the profile and even resembles the model of the UID - joyce irene walcott :http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/370dfca.html

Here are a couple I think are possible matches -


Amanda Fravel
Missing since summer of 1986 from Las Vegas, Nevada
Classification: Missing

Vital Statistics

• Age at Time of Disappearance: 20 years old
• Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair. Short, petite build, small frame.
• Dentals: Not available. Mandy took exceptional care of her teeth and had perfect hygiene.
• AKA: Mandy

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2491dfnv.html

and this one possible because of marriage and time frame and resemblance as well as location - but not too much information is given:


Judy Ann Gary
Missing since about August 1986 from St. Martinville, St. Martin Parish, Louisiana
Classification: Missing

Vital Statistics

• Date Of Birth: October 5, 1966
• Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
• Distinguishing Characteristics: White female.

This last one seems odd that le didnt seem concerned at all and even gave this statement : Gary was last seen in St. Martinville, Louisiana in the late summer of 1986. She left on foot to go to the pharmacy for her mother, and never returned.
At the time of her disappearance, she was married and had a child. The family tried to file a missing persons report but was told that she was a wild girl and she would come home when she wanted to. As a result, a missing persons report was never filed on her disappearance.
There has been no activity on her social security number since she disappeared.

I don't know why I haven't seen this before. My uncle was a judge in the area although he is retired now. Please pm me with specifics on the Gary case. I will send this to him and ask for his help.

 

[outofthedark]

Thank you outofthedark. I appreciate it.

Anytime! I hope what I said works because that's what I did with DN case 233umwa- when I found a pm for him, I emailed it to the detective (even though I have not heard from him for 8 months). I sent the PM based on the PM's vitals (The PM was a teenager missing from the Ukraine since 1994)

 

[1morehome]

thank you Richard, I read this post. Like you I would so much like to see this solved. I made up a list of questions for a LE or any interested persons: Is evidence still there? Was her hair color natural or colored? Was the duct tape examined for evidence? [sometimes duct tape holds finger prints,hairs, threads]Was the plastic bag clear or did it have something printed? What was the weight tied with?This was a red weight.I don't see any markings in the picture. Who makes this kind of weight? Who would have owned a set like it during that time? was a picture circulated to try and identify it? What doctors at that time would have used that type of breast implants? Were hospitals contacted about someone in an accident of the type that is described with those injuries? This perp probably lived in the area of Bayou Lacombe or Rigolets pass. and knew the area well. I'm told that this is a dangerous area. Had there been any similar cases in that area during that time? She might have seen an OBGYN Was anyone asked to review their cases for this person? It would be kind of late for that now.Has her fingerprint and the partial of the perp ever been entered into data for comparison?Someone knows something about her and they might be willing to talk about it now.People need to clear their conscience after so long. Maybe it would be a good time to circulate the composite pictures now? I think maybe it was too quickly assumed that she was not from this area. I would like to see her cause reopened.

 

[1morehome]

I sent in several possible matches to her to doenetwork but I have gotten a reply to only one of those submissions. I know it would be hard to respond to all inquires still I'd like to know if matches are being looked into. I remain hopeful and will be very happy when she is identified.

 

[1morehome]

Anytime! I hope what I said works because that's what I did with DN case 233umwa- when I found a pm for him, I emailed it to the detective (even though I have not heard from him for 8 months). I sent the PM based on the PM's vitals (The PM was a teenager missing from the Ukraine since 1994)

It is indeed hard to remain in the dark about pm's. I hope you hear results when the match is made.

 

[outofthedark]

It is indeed hard to remain in the dark about pm's. I hope you hear results when the match is made.

With fingers crossed hoping that. Right now, I have my fingers crossed hoping he will reply before they attempt to match it

 

[Debbie Miller]

I did talk with Det. Demma on this exact possibility. He said that the story is mixed up. He went and talked with the Gary family and they didn't want to file a report on her. Det. Demma said he felt she was deceased but no way to compare these two without samples and info.

If you go to http://porchlightinternationalformissinguid.com you will see all the matches that have been ruled out via Det. Demma, as well as pm's that are in process. April Zane as a possibility has been passed on to LE recently, so give it time.

It is a good possibility she (16ufla) could be from another country.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Hi
May I please who are the possibilities.

suzanne

 

[Debbie Miller]

The possibility of Judy Ann Gary as a match for 16ufla. Although it is stated that Judy went missing after 16ufla was found, it can not be confirmed as to when Judy Gary went missing with no cooperation from the family.