Peter Brendt
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What I mean by her being rational in terms of the 911 call is that she was able to think of dialing 911, find her phone, dial and talk. I can't imagine someone going bat-shiat crazy would think to do this - or at least, many would not. We know that LE frequently treats prostitutes and other groups of people as "lesser" and don't take them seriously, especially in disappearances. Who's to say the reasoning behind their delayed response was her behavior or her choice of profession? We don't know the answer to this and it is all speculation and opinion. Also we don't know what went on at JB's so saying that it is irrational that she didn't leave earlier is assuming that she was in danger the entire time.
We know nothing about the pharmacy call and my statement that it was a rational call is due to the fact that pharmacies are usually called when help is needed, though admittedly I can't imagine why
they would have called.
Pak's being convinced by her answer that she was rational is important to me because he knew her, probably at least well enough to know if she was losing her mind or not. I am not him or her, so I don't know what he based it on. This statement of his goes against what everyone that night has been insinuating this whole time and why it stood out to me. It could just be that he was convinced, though incorrectly.
No, we can't just forget Coletti and the door. That's one of the most important parts of the night. It's her most documented interaction with someone other than MP or JB, someone not involved with...whatever was going on that night. I'm not faulting him if he, in truth, did not let her in. I stated that I would have done the same thing. This moment is the biggest indicator of Shannan's rationality and sanity that night. If he indeed DID let her in and she wasn't responding to him, ran out when he said he was going to call the cops (insinuating that he would be helping her since he let her in his house thus believing her to be in need of help) and hid behind a boat then I am inclined to believe that she really did have a bad drug trip and all of her behavior was due to a bad drug reaction. I think I can safely say that none of us here would have acted that way.
Her behavior makes a lot more sense though if you look at it with the assumption that she ran to GC's for help and he denied helping her, telling her he's going to call the police in a "get the hell out of here" kind of way. In this view, I think most of us here would act the same or similarly to the way Shannan did that night. IE, running away as soon as he said that.
Really, her interaction with GC is why people think she was out of her mind that night and on a bad trip. If he was never involved and all we knew was that Shannan had flipped out, called 911 screaming that someone was after her (which by the way she named the person but of course LE isn't going to share that information for obvious reasons) and was last seen running down the street with Pak following her, she would be taken a lot more seriously right now.
Shannan called 911 and ran to people in the area for help and no one helped her and now she's dead. That's really what it comes down to and it shouldn't be that way.
I agree with your a - if she actually went through there that whole by herself and of her own choice that's clearly an irrational person. I also agree with your b. It all depends on her true state of mind that night. I wish we knew.
So in the end, we cant' claim, she was rational or irrational and what each of us thinks about that is basically an estimation based on the different personal experience of each of us trying to estimate it. Since I have seen drugged people in self-induced paranoia and what they can do and sometimes actually do, it is not really a surprise if someone in that state of mind would call 911. But then, to really know, we would need that recording of this call, so it's, as I said, also estimation from my side yet.
However, I would like to draw your attention to another thought (just because you seem to think a lot about details): What do you think about the cover-up and the behavior that shows in it?