Tadpole12,
They mostly do the same subjects that we cover, sometimes old quotes pop up that are backed up with a reference.
I'm currently following the Dr Beuf thread some obvious remarks being posted.
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Seems more than iffy to me.
Seems more than iffy to me. Do you have a link to the original document?
887sMtreme,
Its more than iffy. It's too cheesy for me. There are sites out there full of this stuff with weird theories that include the Clintons, etc.
887sMtreme,
As I stated earlier it in Jameson’s website. It is unsecured so I’d rather not link it. The article is from the Globe likened to the National Enquirer.
Oh, I see. Do people really believe that twaddle? Amazing. Also, sorry for duplicating that first line.
887sMtreme,
Let’s hope not!
Lately, I’ve given up hope about what insane things people will believe. But I digress.
There is a very telling sign of BR on Dr. Phil. He states perhaps his memory was erased. I have thought this for along time, MOO.
Whatever took place Christmas night; I am sure it was a traumatic event for everyone involved.
The evidence points to all three people remaining in the home, on the morning of 12/26/96; as taking part. Goodness, if PR and/or JR did it; why involve BR? Obviously the parents got handed True Bills from the GJ.
BR could not be charged. His 10th birthday a little over a week. So, parents are guilty, although not enough evidence to convict?
Did he happen to walk in on something? Looks like from video that he could have entered the basement stairwell without being noticed? The video can be seen under: Media links only post #275 , pg. 14.
I wonder how many people were/are psychotic in that house?
887sMtreme,
There has always been a spin in this case. But there are also facts. The best way to learn about this case is to read the books. Yet, I have to admit I have never read DOI. If R’s can’t get their story right in the beginning why support them further? Acandyrose is a good place to start.
I’ve read all the books (except DOI, though I’ve read excerpts that tell me that was a good decision), and have actually been following this case from the day the story broke. At that time, without knowing much more than “child pageant winner” and “brother,” I thought Burke did it in a fit of jealous rage. Not careful thinking, that, although I still entertain the BDI possibility. Both adult Ramseys in the house that night were fully capable, solo or together, with or without Burke’s involvement, of doing the deed. The only popular solution I don’t buy is IDI. I do think it’s possible that something happened at the Whites and/or in the car en route home afterward, that set off a series of events that culminated in JBR’s death.
887sMtreme,
For those that think the case is JDI, PDI or some combination of both, why was the staging not more sophisticated, not detection proof, but more in tune with how an adult might present a staged crime-scene?
The Bloomingdale's size-12 and Burke Ramsey's long johns defy explanation as elements in a staged crime-scene.
Not unless they flung their son under the proverbial bus?
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Again, without claiming any of the current theories as my own, something we can probably consider is that the murderer(s) might well not have acted rationally.
<snip>Also JR was not speaking to him on the 911 call, if BR was a witness surely JR would want him on his side?<snip>
I've always interpreted John's "We're not speaking to you" to Burke during the 911 call not as "We're not speaking to you because of what you did", but as "We're not speaking to you. We're speaking to the 911 operator."
Rain on my Parade,
BR's appearance on Dr Phil was a scripted affair. BR had his lines, yet as we know, he messed them up, e.g. memory was erased was likely meant to be something else, i.e. episodic ramnesia.
From what BR said and his impulsive grinning, it's safe to say he does not have an objective view of his sisters murder.
It's unlikely he walked in on anything, remember the bedroom doors had internal locks, so not much scope there.
Also JR was not speaking to him on the 911 call, if BR was a witness surely JR would want him on his side?
Psychotic, who knows. I reckon Patsy had issues, loadsa money and she wants her daughter to pursue a pageant career?
Patsy in her own way was just like JR self centered and focused on her goals, to the detriment of her children.
She considered JonBenet as a project, wow I thought when I read that, which then described Burke as a failed project, so Patsy dumped Burke in favor of JonBenet.
I reckon this is where any rivalry would have stemmed from between Burke and JonBenet.
Burke was likely jealous or angry JonBenet was receiving his mother's attention?
As a family they were dysfunctional, they all went their own way, pursuing their separate interests. John with his corporate career; Patsy with her social climbing agenda and faux art collecting; Burke with his typical male obsessions, knots, knives, video games, flying, sailing, etc; JonBenet copying her mother and grand-mother's pageant interests, leaving her vulnerable to external influence as all her role models were atypical.
So JonBenet was alone in a house she could not leave and dependent on her parents for external excursions.
So the Christmas Vacation presented the perfect storm for whomever was abusing JonBenet, as she had nowhere to go?
All the signs are there, if you care to look. Patsy drops hints in some of her interviews.
Is the case a sexual assault gone wrong, a bed wetting gone wrong or parental anger gone wrong?
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