light bulb moments #2

[butwhatif?]

Hi turbo!

I think she used something on Amy that night too. I think she waited until Amy was already asleep and have her the rag in her sleep to "put her out", stole her cash AND changed her pants in the 15 minutes to follow. Amy wakes confused and robbed. Casey tells her she "hid" the money is what she TOLD her therefore confusing her even more...She DID something to put Amy into a deeper sleep that night and if THAT could be proven then we might have a closer date in the timeline for when she began USING the chloroform in VARIOUS ways, and not just on Caylee...

Oooooh. I hope Amy submitted her hair for tox screening.

 

[Manny]

In the july police video of Lee talking to Casey on the phone, he asks her if there are any...areas.. to search...that may have been common to a mutual friend.. and Casey replies, Yes, thats a possibility, in fact its right on the money.

This has been played over and over on NG.

Really stands out now! Let's see she was in a place with a mutual friend when she lost the blackjack too. Wonder who this mutual friend was anyway?

 

[natsound]

I dont think anyone moved the remains either- but I think she was pointing Lee in that direction, for whatever reason. The area was flooded anyway until mid Nov. so nothing would have been found. I am not even sure Lee caught onto this bit of truth at the time. in retrospect it was obvious to me when I heard it.

I can't think of any logical reason why she would point him there. Maybe she wasn't... she was just talking... going along with him... just to make it seem like she cared.

 

[reeseeva]

I've been going over all the docs, trying to get a complete time-line, and I've had heaps of lightbulb moments.
Things that I missed first time round, or that didnt jump out at me till now. Heres the big one:
In the I'ms that Iassen provided to LE they are discussing how they had both had crushes on each other when they first met.
On the 14th June Iassen says to kc: 'how did you get over me? was it Mr Ricardo Morales Montoya Gonzales?'
kc: haha. it helped. i've had a constant crush on ya for a long time.

WTH? Is this where she got the Gonzales name from?

I cannot believe how many guys she was stringing along during Jan-July 08.:waitasec::waitasec:
She's even trying to hook up with Iassen, while she's with TonE , who she is supposedly in love with; and after telling Iassen that the reason she never told him she liked him, was because she was worried what brandon would think.

Bar TonE, all her other hookups were interconnected.This girl had no boundaries and played so many men for fools.
Even Rusciano says he felt like the girl in the r/ship. that he was used andshe was stringing him along.
heres a list of the guys she was stringing along between jan-june 08
1.tone
2.jesse
3.ricardo
4.rusciano
5.brandon
6.iassen
7.mark
8.Jeff ????? (had told people she was dating him and it was serious)
9.chris(she stayed overnight at his place mothers day)

I've probably missed some, since its so hard to keep track of them all, but feel free to add to the list.

She told Iassen she had spent two years, on and off, just hooking up with guys....so theres probably more.

I hope they've all been tested for std's, and they have learnt their lesson about the importance of protection....lol, its probably scared them all enough to be celebate for the rest of their lives.

:clap::clap:

Add to list Wil i am...read the docs today with his texts in July???
Cameron also??

Light bulb moment: Where are the supposed searches for "Missing Children" they found awhile back? Have not heard anymore about them!

Light bulb moment 2: Meter Reader:waitasec: ( I have always felt "a little strange vibe") according to LP has connection with county employee (female) at the jail?? Maybe this is LP's Daisy Chain theory.

 

[metalcrystal]

She was full of sh$t and everything she said was to manipulate everyone arond her. There isn't ANY truth in what she said, it was all lies, made up and stuff that makes no sense. JMO of course.

 

[LancelotLink]

My latest Light bulb Moment--

When I was listening to LE interview GA And LE said to him * not a driect quote* I think you know a lot about of a lot of things.. Just LE's tone of voice spoke volumes.

MOO

One of my favorites!
GA: "My dad had a car lot, so I know a lot about cars."
LE: "I think you're a guy who knows alot about alot of things, George."
Priceless! And let me know they knew he was lying about "alot of things."

 

[LancelotLink]

Hey I just had a "lightbulb" go off...Perhaps Casey had discovered that Amy kept her check-book in her car LONG before she actually used it? Perhaps she was setting the stage so to speak so that Amy's bank statements would arrive at HER address and she could keep her from discovering any theft for a good while? I am not sure what the date was when this change occurred, but it makes sense if she knew the check-book was in the car and she was concocting a way to use it.

On thing we have to remember is that Casey was "criminally minded" and this is VERY important to keep in mind. One who is minded thus is looking for new and creative ways to do their crime, and hers was stealing. She was LOOKING for ways to steal from people and this includes some amount of planning on how to accomplish the theft.

WOW! That makes more sense than telling her all about moving in because her parents were divorcing, blah blah blah...

 

[ThoughtElf]

My latest Light bulb Moment--

When I was listening to LE interview GA And LE said to him * not a driect quote* I think you know a lot about of a lot of things.. Just LE's tone of voice spoke volumes.

MOO

I think the actual quote was 'I think you're a man who knows a lot about a lot of things.'

And I agree with you. My interpretation was that while he said it in response to George talking about his knowledge about cars, the detective was thinking about GA's experience as a cop, and that he knows GA knows the smell of decomp. (If that makes sense?)

 

[butwhatif?]

I think it did cross her mind to kill them I'm not so sure she would have done it (to lazy) but KC had no love for her family and the Cash Cow was drying up the Anthony's seem to be on the brink of bankruptcy they were no longer useful to her the only thing left was the house and insurance money which only would be possible if they were dead..emotional support I don't think she cared about that...

I really dont know if she considered wiping out the whole family.... i dont really think so, but anything is possible with this girl.
The only reason i can think of as to why KC told amy she was taking over the repayments on the hopespring house is this: CA told Amy on the 15th july,that she had told KC she might have to sell the house because she couldnt afford the repayments.
I'm guessing Ca said this to KC when they were arguing over the money KC was stealing, not leaving enough to pay the house.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

"the Anthony's seem to be on the brink of bankruptcy"

There was also a mention in the Leonard Padilla thread something about that it came out in the original bond hearing that the Anthony's house was about to go into foreclosure.

Is that true? I don't recall hearing or reading it at the time. And if true, is it still true? Because Cindy has never yet returned to her work. And does George work now or not?

 

[Sdavidson11]

I have been looking for this text between Iassen and KC! Do you have the date when KC talks to him about her work out and she feels like--I can't remember what she said but something like and animal after working out. If the date is close I thought disposing of her baby Caylee may be what she meant!(

I've been going over all the docs, trying to get a complete time-line, and I've had heaps of lightbulb moments.
Things that I missed first time round, or that didnt jump out at me till now. Heres the big one:
In the I'ms that Iassen provided to LE they are discussing how they had both had crushes on each other when they first met.
On the 14th June Iassen says to kc: 'how did you get over me? was it Mr Ricardo Morales Montoya Gonzales?'
kc: haha. it helped. i've had a constant crush on ya for a long time.

WTH? Is this where she got the Gonzales name from?

I cannot believe how many guys she was stringing along during Jan-July 08.
She's even trying to hook up with Iassen, while she's with TonE , who she is supposedly in love with; and after telling Iassen that the reason she never told him she liked him, was because she was worried what brandon would think.

Bar TonE, all her other hookups were interconnected.This girl had no boundaries and played so many men for fools.
Even Rusciano says he felt like the girl in the r/ship. that he was used andshe was stringing him along.
heres a list of the guys she was stringing along between jan-june 08
1.Tone
2.Jesse
3.Ricardo
4.Rusciano
5.Brandon
6.Iassen
7.Mark
8. Jeff ????? (had told people she was dating him and it was serious)
9. Chris (she stayed overnight at his place mothers day)
10. William W
11. cameron???


I've probably missed some, since its so hard to keep track of them all, but feel free to add to the list.

She told Iassen she had spent two years, on and off, just hooking up with guys....so theres probably more.

I hope they've all been tested for std's, and they have learnt their lesson about the importance of protection....lol, its probably scared them all enough to be celebate for the rest of their lives.

 

[butwhatif?]

I have been looking for this text between Iassen and KC! Do you have the date when KC talks to him about her work out and she feels like--I can't remember what she said but something like and animal after working out. If the date is close I thought disposing of her baby Caylee may be what she meant!(

MONDAY 14TH JULY

ID: (2.43PM) NOT WORKING TONIGHT:/ NIGHT CLASS TIL LIKE 10.

KC: BOO THAT SUCKS. I WENT AND WORKED OUT IN THE FITNESS CENTRE AT TONES APT THISMORNING. I FEEL LIKE AN ANIMAL. HAHA

ID: LOL SO YOU WANTED TO GO AGAIN?

Sorry about the caps. I was typing it up last night and caps were easier. You can find the Im's in the 26 nov doc dump starting page 2616.(same day she mentions she hasnt been sleeping well,. gee, i wonder why!)
Soooooooo many lightbulb moments in it.


ETA: I have posted the entire IM's in the sticky Threads for easy viewing.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

"the Anthony's seem to be on the brink of bankruptcy"

There was also a mention in the Leonard Padilla thread something about that it came out in the original bond hearing that the Anthony's house was about to go into foreclosure.

Is that true? I don't recall hearing or reading it at the time. And if true, is it still true? Because Cindy has never yet returned to her work. And does George work now or not?

It was in the original bond hearing. I think that is still posted here on the links.

 

[Lexington]

I think the actual quote was 'I think you're a man who knows a lot about a lot of things.'

And I agree with you. My interpretation was that while he said it in response to George talking about his knowledge about cars, the detective was thinking about GA's experience as a cop, and that he knows GA knows the smell of decomp. (If that makes sense?)

This statement by LE really stood out. Does anyone remember if this was the interview that GA became sick to his stomach? That would really be a red flag.

 

[keaska]

Really stands out now! Let's see she was in a place with a mutual friend when she lost the blackjack too. Wonder who this mutual friend was anyway?

Just thinking "out loud"... we know she was smoking pot with Tony & roommate.. teens would gather in a wooded area to do that.. maybe that's their "mutual friend"?

I posted on the "casey code" thread about her code talk with Lee. I had never thought of this until now though.

Just one of the things that stood out to me was in the LA jailhouse convo where he asks her if she knows what he means by "out and about" when he's asking if this was daytime, nightime or what.

I don't know what he means by "out and about"..

 

[Becky319]

Light bulb moment 2: Meter Reader:waitasec: ( I have always felt "a little strange vibe") according to LP has connection with county employee (female) at the jail?? Maybe this is LP's Daisy Chain theory..

I thought I heard somewhere that the Meter Reader lost his wife recently, if this is true I think he latched on to this case to keep his mind occupied and became obsessed with finding Caylee. JMO.

My Light bulb moment was when Casey opened her mouth and the lies came spewing out. I just pray the parents didn't cover up for her.

 

[gogrannypop]

I think the actual quote was 'I think you're a man who knows a lot about a lot of things.'

And I agree with you. My interpretation was that while he said it in response to George talking about his knowledge about cars, the detective was thinking about GA's experience as a cop, and that he knows GA knows the smell of decomp. (If that makes sense?)

Yes! That's it exactly. Thank you.:clap:

 

[Kimmer]

I will share another thought that I have not sure if this is lightbulb or not but here goes..

KC had her laptop while she was gone from the home from June 15th-July 15th, she was leaving AL house and acting like she was going to work daily..My gut tells me that she was really sitting around in different apartment parking lots and Pfishing (I think that is what they call it) free internet services from people who had no idea....Follow me I am getting somewhere with this...

When LE went to Sawgrass Apts to talk to the manager to see if they had a ZFG living there, the apt manager looked on her computer and saw where one had been there to look at apt on June 17th..

I think that KC was basically able to hack into Sawgrass Apt computers on that day by Pfishing there internet signal and that is how she knew about ZFG being at Sawgrass on the 17th..And since she had just either killed Caylee or found her dead, she decided this would now become her Nanny..and she then had an entire month to decide what she would say if she ever saw her parents again.

 

[magic-cat]

And, if you recall, Cindy said in an interview shortly thereafter, that she had not called KC home on that night or any night that Caylee was there. Did not happen. That of course, was before she started COVERING.

Cindy started covering ten minutes after the 3rd 911 call...

Really stands out now! Let's see she was in a place with a mutual friend when she lost the blackjack too. Wonder who this mutual friend was anyway?

We DO need to pin down whom this mutual friend might be...

Also Casey said she was closer to Lee's friends than anyone...who ARE Lee's friends? Why has there been nothing about THEM?

 

[TinPan]

Just a thought..what if..since she had already disposed of Caylee and she knew it was possible to clor. Amy while she was asleep, KC planned to increase the dose on Amy, dispose of her with Caylee. Take her identity, she was already using her checks, vanished the night her parents were murdered during a robbery or home invasion..cough..wink. With the new identity she could still be out on the town and when the time was right to come back home she could stage her escape from the kidnappers. Then she could settle in her parents house and plan her next unbelivable acts.
Oh simmer down, lol, that was not too much unbelivable than what we know really happened!