..........but maybe this was just Lee and Casey's dirty secret??
Lee did say they were unusually close . Closer than most brothers adn sisters. I dont know if he meant it in this way but it was a kindof odd statement.
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..........but maybe this was just Lee and Casey's dirty secret??
Unfortunately, LP is desperately searching for a reason to have purpose. If Kaylee is or isn't his child is moot and we'll most likely never know. She certainly doesn't/didn't show any of the markers. DNA that closely matched causes all kinds of physical and mental problems. She seems/(ed) very bright and very outgoing.
Is there actually a legitimate possibility that a child conceived that closely to the source can show no outward signs of effects?
I don't know. Anyone that laughs about decomposition smell that is likely from his niece doesn't seem to have the makings of a perfect child.
Maybe Cindy killed her in a fit of rage after hearing about the theft from the grandparents.
Casey is covering for Cindy so Cindy doesn't go to jail.
I can see the defense already, "but your honor, she was a victim of sexual abuse", such a cop-out, tired, overdone plea, absolutely dishonors true victims. Reguardless of Casey's narcisstic demeanor or even alleged abuse, that's no excuse, much less a defense for murdering her own daughter. From the moment of Caylee's birth, Casey felt usurped & jealous, Cindy was wrong forcing her into motherhood, she should have adopted Caylee herself & raised her, w/no access to Casey.
On the other hand, I am a survivor of sexual abuse etc from my father and another man and found out (long long story) about 10 yrs ago that my father (parents divorced when I was 9) is the father of his own niece's son. I met
the son while going to my hometown to do genealogy research and my maiden name was called to the phone. I watched the about 16 yr old obviously mentally challenged boy go to the phone and wondered how we were related (small town). There was a tornado warning, we all had to go to the basement and I had a chance to ask who his parents were and told him that his last name was my maiden name. He mentioned my cousin's name as his mother...I couldn't understand a lot of what he was saying. When we returned home from our trip, I called my mother to ask if she knew that my cousin (never close...long story) had a son ..probably out of wedlock, since he had his mother's last name.
My mother said "You don't know who he is?" (I have had great boundaries the past 25 yrs..so little contact). I told her no,, I didn't know who he is. She then told me the boy I met (I was about 45) was my brother.
It took a few seconds to set in...then she went on to tell me that "everyone" in the family knew that her father caught my father in bed with his 17 (my father would have been 47) daughter and had a massive heart attack and died. I was stunned, sickened and I still can't wrap my head around it. My father also at one time married his own father's first wife..she was way old and God knows what his deal was. (thought she had money probably)..anyway, sickening, dysfunctional things are in this world and unfortunately, in this case, the son of my father and his niece is mentally impaired. I would guess as a 16 yr old, he was mentally about 6.
I have 2 sons of my own, one in his 2nd year of med school, one works for 2nd is in his 2nd year of college.
They do not know my family...have met my own mother maybe 5 times in their entire lives...and they are 26 and 19...and never met my father until he was on his deathbed in 1998...and then only my 26 yr old met him.
There was no way I wanted my children to grow up in the craziness I did.
I can't honestly say how Casey would feel or behave IF she was victimized by a member of her own family..I went into therapy at 27 and spent years of work. I will say that my whole life goal as long as I remembered was to live differently than I was raised...I never felt compelled to sleep around..I've been married 30 yrs this month ..but I was very blessed to know all of my life that it wasn't ok or normal. I don't know how, but I knew.
As an adult, my aunt told me the reason I spent so much time as all of their homes as a small child is that they knew I was abused somehow...this was the 50's..I was born in '52...so about 4 sets of aunts and uncles took me often. I think they may have been angels in my life to show me what normal was.
I will not excuse Casey if she murdered her daughter, but I will be willing to acknowledge that she needs mental health help more than punishment.
Dianna ^i^
Wow, Dianna. All I can say is that I applaud you for making it through the craziness and keeping the lives of your own children sane.
Unfortunately, LP is desperately searching for a reason to have purpose. If Caylee is or isn't his child is moot and we'll most likely never know. She certainly doesn't/didn't show any of the markers. DNA that closely matched causes all kinds of physical and mental problems. She seems/(ed) very bright and very outgoing.
Is Lee KC's biological brother? If so, can blood siblings actually have a healthy baby together? Why does the word "mogoloid" keep coming to my mind?
I don't know. Anyone that laughs about decomposition smell that is likely from his niece doesn't seem to have the makings of a perfect child.
Agreed. I see another Lee.
Oh yes, I see the one he presents for the press, calm, logical, loving, caring and sincere, but I also see beyond what he wants everyone to think and what is the truth.
I see him nearly running over protesters who were on foot (a pedestrian ALWAYS has the right of way, no matter what),his cocky attitude when LE showed up to talk to him about it, attacking the woman with the dog and the sign, destroying-not just moving and removing-but rather, destroying her property and being VERY cocky while he was doing it, and making veiled threats to others while he was doing it as well. I see him getting irritated with the press for interrupting him-the same irritation that he displayed for Casey when she interrupted him on the phone from jail. And I see him skirting the issues and avoiding saying anything concrete. Add to that the fact that in the midst of all of this and his baby niece missing and he is making complaints on gaming sites about trivial and meaningless issues and ordering new games off of eBay and I think what we have here is someone who can be charming when he wants to, but underneath wants to be running the show and is a little shallow in his feelings.
I mean, I listened to him laugh and laugh about that decomposition and how bad it was and laugh laugh laugh. Something does not and never has sat right about Lee. It may not be that he is Caylee's father, but there IS something amiss there...
Unfortunately, LP is desperately searching for a reason to have purpose. If Caylee is or isn't his child is moot and we'll most likely never know. She certainly doesn't/didn't show any of the markers. DNA that closely matched causes all kinds of physical and mental problems. She seems/(ed) very bright and very outgoing.
Not often at all. A study among 1st cousins having children only showed a slight increase of only POTENTIAL defects, most minor at best. It's a 'myth' that was put out there many years ago to disgust and discourage that kind of behavior. Takes many years to overcome myths in general society.
I have another theory. In this theory, Lee is not the father, but he does not want his DNA sampled because George is not his bio father and he knows it because Cindy has told him. Perhaps he does not want George to discover this? No? Ok, but according to our lovely astrologers, in whom I have great faith, we are all way off base here. They have not steered us wrong even once in all of this, they have been accurate about dates when things would happen and they have let us know in advance what was coming. They do not see anything of this in the stars, and if it ain't in the stars, then it just ain't at all...so now I am back to square one with this...hmmm...
According to Nancy Grace, I understood Jesse Grund was eliminated as Caylee's father, due to the DNA testOr allowed KC to let someone else adopt her.
But actually, I think this makes a more compelling story for murder, especially if Lee was involved somehow.
Bottom line, if LA is the father I would bet the reason they asked him for his DNA is because they already had Caylee's and it showed both father and mother to be siblings.
However, I've thought of something that turns this around and makes me wonder if Lee is Caylee's dad. What about the paternity test Jesse Grund had done after her birth?