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Inthedetails, you are clear, cogent, courteous and i hope you stay
Inthedetails, you are clear, cogent, courteous and i hope you stay
Completely agree, thank you
The op asked a question about if VM had a boyfriend. I answered the op with a substantiated response from a MSM news clip.A couple things.
One just because her dad said she had no relationships and the police said they have nothing bad 1-2 days after the murder. Realistically the police would still be limited in their collective information at this point, and while what they stated might have been true at the time it was spoken, i think it's reasonable to assume the wealth of knowledge police had at the 36-48 hr mark is far more substantial now then it was then.
My point is, I don't think we should hang out hats on those comments ruling in or out anything, it was simply too early in the investigation.
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Great map - thanks for making!
At one point it was reported that LE found and removed evidence from the woods 1/2 mile south of her body. The original link no longer contains this info but just want to give you the option of adding it.
Somewhat interesting - 1/2 mile south of her body is in the vicinity of Sam Cobb Lane and, at 10:43 pm on Sunday night, there was a call reported in the Landmark police log of something in the woods on Sam Cobb Lane. It was probably just the police but LE didn't find evidence in this vicinity until Thursday.
Its possible they didn't find evidence their until later because it would have been dark searching around the woods at quarter of 11 at night, and when they expanded their search during daylight hours they obviously had better visibility.
That said though, I do remember reports of them searching down that part of the road, but no reports of them every finding anything. The only evidence I remember them finding after she was found was whatever was carried out in the brown paper bag near the crime scene.
Just joined WS recently, and this is my debut post here. I was reading about the Vanessa Marcotte case earlier on the Web, and chanced upon the WS site.
The reason for my interest in this case is that a good friend of mine works at Google, and VM worked for my friend. She was his assistant in the advertising part of the company. My buddy is still torn up about it - says VM was the nicest person you could know, didn't have a mean bone in her body. Google bussed a whole bunch of employees to her funeral in MA.
This doesn't seem like a random attack to me. The NY/ Queens case seems more likely to be a random one. Random attacks are more likely in big cities like NY, where there's typically a larger number of whackos floating around, and you're more likely to run into one. Much less likely in a place like Princeton, with no murder history in decades. JMO
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7 weeks, not one clue from LE that the public is aware of since the Aug 11th press conference, not how she was killed, not if this killer is/is not the same killer as in the queens murder, nothing.
Thanks, I've now added that to the map, quoting your post in the little map marker text box. I confess to being a little confused about it means and would be grateful for any further context you can offer. That was Sunday night of Aug 7, the day of the murder, right?. You mention, Kayaker, that "LE didn't find evidence in this vicinity until Thursday". Are you suggesting that the did, indeed, find something of interest there on Thursday? Here's the link to the map.
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I've followed a lot of cases over the last 2 decades and it's more common than not for investigators to say next to nothing about an active case. In my city they are very tight-lipped. Press conferences do not impart much information either.
This is not by accident; the public and Internet sleuthers don't solve cases, it's homicide investigators and LE and FBI who do so with the various tools and science and interviews they utilize. Yes, sometimes a tip will provide a direction, sometimes even a name. Outside of that, I've never personally witnessed speculation/rumoring helping solve a case--it often causes more pain and sometimes innocent people get accused of heinous crimes.
The investigator's sole focus is solving the case and not compromising the investigation so that when/if they do solve a case, the case can move forward and be litigated by the DA inside a courtroom. Assuaging the curious and lookyloos is not part of the equation.
LE always (100%) of the time know more than the general public and they never disclose most of what they know. A few pieces may come out, but that's generally it. If they have a video where they need an I.D. they'll ask for the public's help or a specific piece of info they need help with (like anyone who spotted a vehicle at the time).
Until a case is solved and taken to court it's often <crickets>.
Thank you for your post.Just joined WS recently, and this is my debut post here. I was reading about the Vanessa Marcotte case earlier on the Web, and chanced upon the WS site.
The reason for my interest in this case is that a good friend of mine works at Google, and VM worked for my friend. She was his assistant in the advertising part of the company. My buddy is still torn up about it - says VM was the nicest person you could know, didn't have a mean bone in her body. Google bussed a whole bunch of employees to her funeral in MA.
This doesn't seem like a random attack to me. The NY/ Queens case seems more likely to be a random one. Random attacks are more likely in big cities like NY, where there's typically a larger number of whackos floating around, and you're more likely to run into one. Much less likely in a place like Princeton, with no murder history in decades. JMO
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Thanks for your insight. Something that I've struggled with on this case is working LEs focus on a vehicle into possible scenarios. To me, and a lot of others on this forum, it just makes more sense that the killer would have remained unseen easier if on foot or on a bike. Based on your familiarity with how LE works, do their specific requests for info on a vehicle seem based on hard evidence that they obviously can't reveal or more of a dragnet to capture any and all possible leads?
There may have very well been a blowtorch used, Many homeowners have small torches in their homes.Agree. Not random; this was a lay in wait murder. I keep thinking about the source of the fire. (Blowtorch?)
I'm sure the remains would give strong clues there.
If it's any consolation, I have no doubt this murder will be solved, and I don't think the suspect radius is that large geographically.