Madeleine McCann 3 year old missing in Portugal - Part 13

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I hope so, but I doubt he is capable of having feelings, throughout this whole investigation, he has seemed like a non caring, selfish cold fish, out for whatever he can achieve for himself.

Now Shazza--don't you remember when Gerry snuggled into Kates neck during one of their interviews?

That was unreal...........:razz:
 
Good morning all....

Well it looks like it will be another very busy day, yes?

It kind of blows my mind to see all the news (CNN live and online and all over the British press) this morning...

I guess we wait to see what happens to Gerry next? And Kate is back at the PJ huh? I can see another marathon coming on...

Personally, I LOVE the PJ!!

Justice for Madeleine!

Good Morning Darlin'. I was thinking about you, amazing how the tide has turned isn't it!! WOW.
 
Wow heather, you are fast. I was just going to post those questions!!
Command Central is flying fast today--I bet you got that coffee machine put in there!

I can tell it will be hard to keep up today Petra....got my coffee...still in my PJs....got all 3 puters humming....

Servers crashing all over the place in the UK!!!

If you want to see something, just ask....I'll find it!
 
Wow, how horrible...if that was when she was killed. I can't imagine knowing that my daughter was killed by her mother and was screaming for me to help her...if that's what happened.

Cal

I agree. That'd be extremely hard to live with. :(
 
Good Morning Darlin'. I was thinking about you, amazing how the tide has turned isn't it!! WOW.

Morning Girlie!!

I was thinking about you too!! We should see lots of new faces here today. I hate to say it but, I could see it coming...slowly but surely....

The truth had to come out, soooo many people praying.

Stay close today, lots more to come.
 
I still say this is all a game that the PJ are playing with Gerry....for those of us that "know" him...this has got to be making him completely crazy.

When they get him in there he will be half way to cracking...

I wonder if he gives one more blog entry. :snooty:
 
Wow, how horrible...if that was when she was killed. I can't imagine knowing that my daughter was killed by her mother and was screaming for me to help her...if that's what happened.

Cal

The crying was for about 1.5 hours --two nights before Madeleine disappeared. The McCanns were not home, out dinning.:(

From reports of statements by upstairs neighbour.
 
I still say this is all a game that the PJ are playing with Gerry....for those of us that "know" him...this has got to be making him completely crazy.

When they get him in there he will be half way to cracking...

I too think that the PJ may be playing head games with Gerry.
I really would be shocked if Kate was involved in this as a willing participant.(although we have seen it before)
Just a thought here but it is possible that Gerry harmed Maddie through discipline. Maybe she got on his nerves wanted them to stay with her, did not want to be left alone again. Gerry grew intolerant slapped her and she was mortally wounded. Did Gerry force Kate to go along with a cover-up?

Gerry McCann appears to me to be Narcissitic.

Definition

Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance and an extreme preoccupation with one's self.

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Causes, incidence, and risk factors


The cause of this disorder is unknown. Personality disorders are long-lasting patterns of behavior that cause problems with relationships and work. Narcissistic personality disorder usually begins by early adulthood and is marked by disregard for the feelings of others, grandiosity, obsessive self-interest, and the pursuit of primarily selfish goals.

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Symptoms


A person with narcissistic personality disorder:
  • Reacts to criticism with feelings or rage, shame, or humiliation
  • Takes advantage of others to achieve own goals
  • Has feelings of self-importance
  • Exaggerates achievements and talents
  • Is preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence, or ideal love
  • Has unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment
  • Requires constant attention and admiration
  • Lacks empathy
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Is it also possible that Kate suffers from abuse?

"Battered woman syndrome describes a pattern of psychological and behavioral symptoms found in women living in battering relationships." People v. Romero, 13 Cal Rptr 2d 332, 336 (Cal App 2d Dist. 1992); See Walker, L., The Battered Woman Syndrome (1984) p. 95-97. There are four general characteristics of the syndrome:
1. The woman believes that the violence was her fault.
2. The woman has an inability to place the responsibility for the violence elsewhere.
3. The woman fears for her life and/or her children's lives.
4. The woman has an irrational belief that the abuser is omnipresent and omniscient.

Just thinking out loud!
Also colomom thanks for all your super sleuthing!!!
 
can they be detained immediately after questioning? If so, does anyone know if they have other family staying there in portugal with them and if not, what is the version of the Foster Care system over there?

Didn't they have a nanny at home? (I can't remember and i can't stop hitting refresh long enough to go do another search for the answer LOL) If so, why was she not brought on vacation with them?
 
Pocono Sleuther,the bells went off when I heard that they left the children alone with a locked ,then went to an unlocked door.I could not get my mind around the fact that 2 well educated "doctors" could be that stupid,theres no way they could be.Just didn't and still don't believe that they did not know the danger(s) of what could happen to 3 small children who where the age of 3 and under :eek: everything to abduction,fire and just plain wondering off, among many,many other dangers.

I am not buying what they are selling.I am hoping it was an accident at least and not a planned crime.

Know what?? Even though my gut is screaming at me that they are guilty and prolly 1-2 of the tapas 9 are also,there is a part of me still hoping and praying that it turns out that G&K had no part in it.

Sweet Madeleine my heart breaks for you.


Oh and has anyone else heard that Kate got jeered and booed??That was so wrong for people to do.I understand why they did but it was still wrong :(


So do others think they moved madeleine to one of the Tapas 9s room to hide her there?Which of the 9 do you think??


Leaving them alone! That's right. That is what freaks me out. I don't even leave my 10 yr and 8yr old alone ever. Esp not to go to dinner. I seriously hope they weren't involved, but as we've seen too many times before the odds aren't with them.
 
http://news.sky.com/skynews/home

Video from this morning...the Mirror board do tend to get a bit excited....


Thank you colomom.I found another video at www.bbc.com

There was a bit of jeering but nothing like they made out on the mirror forums.Heard whistles too,guess that was the reporters/photograpers trying to get her to look there way.

Thanks again for posting the sky link.:)
 
I still say this is all a game that the PJ are playing with Gerry....for those of us that "know" him...this has got to be making him completely crazy.

When they get him in there he will be half way to cracking...

I think I agree! I think he will be the one to "crack".

ETA: Not out of guilt, but out of anger. IMO.
 
can they be detained immediately after questioning? If so, does anyone know if they have other family staying there in portugal with them and if not, what is the version of the Foster Care system over there?

Didn't they have a nanny at home? (I can't remember and i can't stop hitting refresh long enough to go do another search for the answer LOL) If so, why was she not brought on vacation with them?

There is family there right now, Gerry's parents and his sister. I seriously doubt the twins will be taken away. I would not be suprised to see them taken back to the UK but only if the parents are arrested.
 
Heard the news drivin' into to the job.......now, where is she?

Y'all are doing an incredible job following this and keeping everyone updated! Thanks from all of us who are at work all day! Popping in and catching up is made easy by you all taking the time to post this information, seriously, thanks!
 
Leaving them alone! That's right. That is what freaks me out. I don't even leave my 10 yr and 8yr old alone ever. Esp not to go to dinner. I seriously hope they weren't involved, but as we've seen too many times before the odds aren't with them.

My kids are older but I would never have left them alone to go to dinner even in my neighborhood where I am comfortable. Even if they were directly in my line of sight being that far away from them anything could happen in a split second.

Add to that you are now in a foreign country. No way on God's green earth would I have left them. I have never been an overly protective parent but the thought of leaving my kids alone so I could eat in peace never crossed my mind. It's always been an odd story that was just "off" to me. I hope that in the coming days and weeks we'll see how it plays out.
 
I too think that the PJ may be playing head games with Gerry.
I really would be shocked if Kate was involved in this as a willing participant.(although we have seen it before)
Just a thought here but it is possible that Gerry harmed Maddie through discipline. Maybe she got on his nerves wanted them to stay with her, did not want to be left alone again. Gerry grew intolerant slapped her and she was mortally wounded. Did Gerry force Kate to go along with a cover-up?

Gerry McCann appears to me to be Narcissitic.

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Just thinking out loud!
Also colomom thanks for all your super sleuthing!!!

I agree 100% sleuthin4fun,

I suppose it is time for me to post my theory:

(originally posted June 24 at Websleuths)

I really believe that prior to their dinner date that fateful evening GM and KM were preparing the kids for another evening alone. I think Maddie was not too pleased with the prospect. I think she had been traumatized a couple of nights previously, remember the reports of neighbors hearing her crying for her so-called father? She was not being cooperative and might even have thrown a fit. I think GM was angry at being kept from his "fun" that evening. I think he lost his temper when trying to get her to take her sedative and either scared her so badly that her little heart gave out or he manhandled her and fatally injured her. My reference to her heart has to do with the possibility of her having a heart defect related to a mild form of CHARGE that she might have had (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHARGE_syndrome). I believe that GM panicked and convinced KM that they had to cover it up because if they didn't they would lose their medical licenses and the twins as well. I think he had time to take Maddie's body to a remote location and hide her and then return to the resort in time for dinner. I would love to know how their dinner mates felt about their behavior that night. I think KM felt no choice but to go along with her husband. Some of her body language shows some anger towards GM. Watch her in this video (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1264418,00.html) when she reads the script asking for the return of their daughter and GM nuzzles her at the end. Watch her eyes and the movement of her head and see if you don't pick up on a flash of anger towards GM. I see it right at the end when he starts rubbing on her. I thought the nuzzle looked like GM's way of saying "thanks for going along with protecting my sorry a$$". Once the deed was done they were trapped. No going back. I am not sure that they have involved anyone else in this deception (maybe the friend that said she saw a stranger carring a child?) but he could insure their silence by threating to expose their own neglect of their children. He could convince them that if they talked they would all end up investigated by the authorities.

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This has a link to the video someone (sorry but you guys are smokin' this morning) mentioned...

Your welcome to everyone!! I am happy to help.
 
I think I agree! I think he will be the one to "crack".

ETA: Not out of guilt, but out of anger. IMO.

If I had to guess what happened.....

The mother is a narcissist and cared more about friends, family, and good times than the inconvenience of children. I think that somehow, someway, poor Madeleiline got in the way of her mother's good time and she hit her and killed her. I think they temporarily disposed of the body and then went back at some other time to permanently bury her.

I think that there is a significant mismatch between the two of them. She outclasses him....despite all she is SMOKING hot. So I think that he pretty well does her bidding and what she says. I think that in his grief, he compartmentalizes the situation. If mom goes away for murder, I lose her....Maddy's already dead so there is no bringing her back. He doesnt' want to lose it all so he plays along. I think this dependence on the wife is why he posted the blog that basically celebrates their good time since Maddy went missing....jogging accomplishments, friends, family, food, pool time, high tea. Sickening. Who can enjoy one moment of pleasure if their daughter was truly abducted? 20 years down the line when it is clear she isn't coming back and you have to move on, yes. Not the next week.

I too think he will crack, especially not knowing what the wife said. He will get tripped up and crack....unless he keeps quiet or his attorney prevents him from answering questions that will incriminate them (assuming the two have the same attorney).

Cal
 
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