Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #23

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misty48 said:
If HCW doesn't have any photos or videos of MM, why do you think it's so important to place a specific phone in CB's hands at 8pm on 3/5/07? What other data could be obtained from it which would prove CB killed Madeleine?
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IF BKA were to have photos/videos why would the phone number matter anyway ?

There could be some metadata if the images/videos were to be filmed with the cell phone but back on 2007 those old "nokias" and such would have pretty bad cameras so IF there were to be abuse images/videos most likely they would have been taken with a camera and not a cell phone.

Also CB was storing child *advertiser censored* and other rape/abuse videos on the CAMERA and not on the cell phone. Back on 2007 we didn't have yet modern smartphones like today... Yes, he could store photos/videos even on that year with for example a Nokia N70 phone but it would have a very bad 2 M camera ...

I think the relevance of the PHONE NUMBER is to place CB on the crime scene and to attempt to reach the other person who dialed CB.

Maybe HCW is "playing games" as well ? Maybe HCW is targeting someone else apart from CB.

Maybe HCW does think that CB did kidnapp MM to someone else/by order and wants to get to that person.
 
This post here : - Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #22

Made me think on another prespective regarding CB.

CB could very well apart from a pedo be someone who admired pedo/killers/abductors.

WahnsinnderHolger for me might mean "Wahnsinn der Holger" or "Insane that Holger". If that Holger is the same one from PK case (CB did born on the place from where PK went missing) then "maybe" CB did "admire" that guy - Holger - for several reasons. Maybe CB do think that Holger did manage to kill PK and get away with it, or maybe CB does think that he is a abcessed guy, but whatever CB do think, IF that Holger is someone for CB to use as a nickname on a pedo-chat it would mean that CB did in some way admire that guy.

Now, if we can make some further assumptions let's say that CB does "like" child-murders.

This guy - CB - might now be "gold" to he LEA/BKA because even if he didn't commit the crimes he might have been obcessed with the ones who commited the crimes to follow them on the net and meet them.

CB might "know" for example who did kill MM even if he was not the one who did it.

I'm saying this because of his statements on the MM aniversary on TV where the CB guy did state that "the child is dead and it's better that way". Maybe BKA does know that CB didn't kill MM but instead they know that CB do know who did it ?

BKA doesn't have to state all the truth during the investigation.

Just another idea...
 
vermisstekindersuche said:
Maybe BKA does know that CB didn't kill MM but instead they know that CB do know who did it ?

BKA doesn't have to state all the truth during the investigation.
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No they don't have to always tell the truth, but do you really believe they would publicly state a person is guilty of murder, in such a high-profile case, knowing full well they are innocent of that crime? All for the sake of a ploy to get to the real killer!? No chance.
 
Dlk79 said:
No they don't have to always tell the truth, but do you really believe they would publicly state a person is guilty of murder, in such a high-profile case, knowing full well they are innocent of that crime? All for the sake of a ploy to get to the real killer!? No chance.
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Agree to some degree.

Maybe BKA do know that CB did kidnapp and sell MM to a pedophile that later killed her, so CB would indirectly have caused the death of MM by selling her to the real killer. A thing like that could justify BKA to "hide" the fact that they know there are more people involved in hope to reach that people and get them in jail as well ?
 
Chiatos said:
Well, he/BKA said that CB would most probably be questioned this year.
And German LE would soon travel to Portugal to investigate.
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Yes !
The fact that they say they need to solve this "the old way" and that they need to travel to Portugal for me tells me as well that the recent allotment searches in Germany didn't bring anything "new" or relevant otherwise there wouldn't be the need to investigate in Portugal.

But as I stated some posts ago as well if CB did indeed killed MM it's not likely at all that he would take the "evidences" with him back to Germany unless it was something like files/videos/data. If there are MM remains they most likely would be left either on Portugal or in route to Germany like Spain.

Or so is what I think, this would justify the need to search Portugal to find "clues" left by CB regarding MM.

I'M VERY HAPPY that they did search the CB allotments in Germany but I think that they will need to search in Portugal if they want to find something MM related and assuming the body was not disposed in Spain or MM was not "sold" for example to someone in Marroco, etc ..
 
Trivento said:
Maddie police in push to find ‘missing piece' in jigsaw that could snare suspect
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- Experts described it as “a very important step forward” and raised hopes it could lead to Brueckner being quizzed and even charged.

- A second top-level summit between German, British and Portuguese detectives is also expected to take place in Lisbon this spring.

- Prosecutors hope a new clue will give them what they need to directly question Brueckner about the case.

and

- Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters recently admitted that without new clues, the 43-year-old will never be quizzed over Madeleine.

For me :

- They didn't found anything new on the allotments search otherwise they would have enought evidence to at least quiz CB.

- They will be investigating this at least up untill spring so most likely they will not quiz CB up untill the middle of the year.

- If without any "new" clues CB will NOT EVEN be questioned then whatever HCW have is not very "strong" because they could question CB anyhow with what they do have.

- This tells to me that what they do have is either witness statements or some sort of CB "text" as already mentioned.

- I wouldn't be surprized if they did end up not charging CB but i would expect for them to at least question him.

- I rhink BKA can question him under investigation even without any solid proof so this makes no sense ... For me if HCW did spend all this time on the media saying that CB did kill MM I do hope that at least they do quiz him even if they decide that they don't have enough to charge him ...

- Very strange all of this ...
 
peanutJelly said:
Well it will be a while before they will be able to meet in Lisbon for a summit. With so many working remotely, couldn’t they do a video call. I’m sure ‘sorry I was on mute’ is by now a universal catchphrase! :rolleyes:
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I agree. I think the current covid crisis will delay proceedings. But that's ok because CB isn't going anywhere.
 
Trivento said:
Am curious if CB would actually bother to say anything if they do end up questioning him ...so best they get as much as possible from the other interviews and searches.
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I've wondered that too. In the UK, it is common for criminals to give a "No Comment" interview. The logic being that they don't want to say something that might incriminate them or enable the police to prove they are lying. I'm not sure how this works in Germany though, where there is no Jury. When it's down to a Judge to ascertain guilt, surely if you have a suspect who has refused to answer any questions and not cooperated, that isn't going to sit well with an experienced Judge when it comes to giving them the benefit of the doubt?
 
Dlk79 said:
I've wondered that too. In the UK, it is common for criminals to give a "No Comment" interview. The logic being that they don't want to say something that might incriminate them or enable the police to prove they are lying. I'm not sure how this works in Germany though, where there is no Jury. When it's down to a Judge to ascertain guilt, surely if you have a suspect who has refused to answer any questions and not cooperated, that isn't going to sit well with an experienced Judge when it comes to giving them the benefit of the doubt?
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IIRC the situation as regards silence in interviews is similar the UK

The absolute right to silence has been watered down by law reform so that an adverse inference may be drawn at trial where the accused fails to mention a fact, being a fact which in the circumstances existing at the time the accused could reasonably have been expected to mention when so questioned, charged or informed, as the case may be

So while the no comment interview is still common, there are times when the accused can be expected to give an answer, if they want to rely on it at trial.

It is a long time since I looked at this, but I think one of the main points was to stop people fabricating alibi's at trial when they failed to mention the alibi during original inquiries.

Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994
 
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