Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #24

[Lilly b]

Not directly related to CB but may be of interest to some here, and it is always good to hear of these sickos getting busted.

Darkweb child *advertiser censored* platform 'Boystown' taken down by BKA led international operation.

Huge pedophilia platform on the Dark Web put out of action. A large pedophilia platform on the so-called dark internet has been put down in a police operation that had the participation of people from six countries. The platform was called "Boystown" and had 400,000 members who could chat together and exchange child *advertiser censored*. The German police were in charge of the operation, but received help from the police in the Netherlands, Australia, USA, Canada and Sweden, it is stated in a press release.

Four German men have been arrested in the case. They are a 40-year-old man from Paderborn, a 49-year-old from Munich and a 58-year-old living in Paraguay. In addition, a 64-year-old has been arrested. In Sweden, the police state that no one has been arrested yet, but that there may well be arrests in the case.

Europol reports that several other child abuse chat forums were shut down in the same action.

Todays press release.
BKA - Listenseite für Pressemitteilungen - Festnahmen von mutmaßlich Verantwortlichen und Mitgliedern der kinderpornografischen Darknetplattform „BOYSTOWN“ und Abschaltung dieser Plattform

Just seen it before, shocking, all those poor children

 

[Zuleika]

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[Zuleika]

Logical minds question why the parents seem set on pressing on with their own “search “if investigations come to an end because after all the time various people and authorities have spent on the case where could they possibly begin to search and more to the point even if they employed PI’s again the same would apply . How long would the fund money last is another posed question .

 

[JB1510]

But did anything actually get taken? After listening to what she said, doesn't sound like it?

Sounds shocking , when she returned to the apartment the blood stained sheets and her false ? nails were still in the bedding. The police were a shambles according to HB .

 

[SuperdadV8]

You could even create a composite theory.

The upset child, died accidentally after he left her in a state.

That is quite possible either! He left his dogs at the Braunschweig kiosk while leaving the area to avoid a prosecution/conviction. He could be capable of such an act.

German penalty laws allow a murder by failure under some unique circumstances!

 

[JB1510]

Logical minds question why the parents seem set on pressing on with their own “search “if investigations come to an end because after all the time various people and authorities have spent on the case where could they possibly begin to search and more to the point even if they employed PI’s again the same would apply . How long would the fund money last is another posed question .

As a parent myself I know I would never give up hope
until I was presented with physical evidence, you’d always wish that your child would be found safe whilst there is no damning evidence. A truly awful time for the McCanns at the moment , I truly hope they get closure soon .

 

[Zuleika]

Question isn’t about why ,it’s how they could even begin to proceed on their own .

 

[Trivento]

Maddie cops told 'significant' new info on suspect ahead of her 18th birthday

Maybe a new tip-off or suchlike ..?

 

[Lilly b]

Not directly related to CB but may be of interest to some here, and it is always good to hear of these sickos getting busted.

Darkweb child *advertiser censored* platform 'Boystown' taken down by BKA led international operation.

Huge pedophilia platform on the Dark Web put out of action. A large pedophilia platform on the so-called dark internet has been put down in a police operation that had the participation of people from six countries. The platform was called "Boystown" and had 400,000 members who could chat together and exchange child *advertiser censored*. The German police were in charge of the operation, but received help from the police in the Netherlands, Australia, USA, Canada and Sweden, it is stated in a press release.

Four German men have been arrested in the case. They are a 40-year-old man from Paderborn, a 49-year-old from Munich and a 58-year-old living in Paraguay. In addition, a 64-year-old has been arrested. In Sweden, the police state that no one has been arrested yet, but that there may well be arrests in the case.

Europol reports that several other child abuse chat forums were shut down in the same action.

Todays press release.
BKA - Listenseite für Pressemitteilungen - Festnahmen von mutmaßlich Verantwortlichen und Mitgliedern der kinderpornografischen Darknetplattform „BOYSTOWN“ und Abschaltung dieser Plattform

Just seen it before, shocking, all those poor children

The one thing that strikes me about CB, is that he has (as far as we know) no record of murder. His friends too claim that he would have sold Madeleine on, not murder her. What would be his motive to kill her at the tender age of four, as the BKA is claiming?

Not sure where you live, but I'm just watching a programme I recorded on 5star channel (I'm in the UK) 5 mistakes that caught a killer, it's about Roy whiting paedophile, won't mention any other names on here, as you say we haven't known of murder by CB, however, there has to be a first, (obviously not with everyone) if can watch it very interesting things, again won't go into detail, anyone on here try and watch,

 

[Lilly b]

Link regarding hazel regarding evidence dna etc
Portugal police could reopen case into rape of Irish woman in 2004

 

[snowpea666]

Thanks Lily , I think there was a tv appearance but has since been removed or not archived as I think she did the original tv interview in 2005 . The picture of her looks like it was taken from the tv interview. It is harrowing listening and it must have taken a lot of guts to come forward.

It was on the Late late show, an Irish chat show, I watched it at the time, cant seem to find it now, maybe removed for legal reasons now.

 

[SuperdadV8]

HCW confirmed, that the investigation in the HB-case will go on for further months, but hasn't told the press, that CB will be charged in about 3 months!

Es gibt neue Vorwürfe im Fall Maddie

 

[Okapi]

False alarm? According to the Irish Times, HCW is denying the media reports that CB is about to be charged with the rape of HB.

“I did not say that we would charge Christian B in the case of Hazel B in the next three months,” he said, using the versions of the suspect’s and victim’s names that has been used by prosecutors, who do not use full names.

“In fact, the investigation is ongoing and will probably continue for several months. Currently it is not foreseeable whether there will be an indictment.”

Prosecutor disputes claim McCann suspect to be charged with Irish woman’s rape

 

[Nikolai_ff]

I’ve posted this before, but I’ve done some more digging on the dog question. Why I think this is important is because it seems to be the linchpin for those who say “Parents did it.” However it is pretty obvious for somebody who is not hysterical that it is highly, highly unlikely, no evidence exists and is in fact almost certainly not physically possible. (I’ve walked PDL with a 2o kilo bag in my hands. It is pretty obvious there is zero chance Gerry could have hid the body without a car, there is also nowhere to hide it within walking distance and extensive searching WAS done in the immediate area.)

So the literature is a mostly consistent that dogs are great at detecting a body IF IT’S THERE. What does emerge from the literature is that in fact dogs are so good, the chance of FALSE POSITIVES is PRESENT in certain circumstances. It’s a bit like with DNA, where we have gotten so good at detecting it, minute trace amounts from who-knows where begin to be detected and throw investigations. (Eg, trace DNA of an unknown Hispanic male on Johnbenet Ramsey’s fresh pair of Made in Mexico undies).

I have already posited that dogs were probably not alerted to MM’s body but to her fluids, possible before she was dead. Putrescence and Cadaverine are compounds found not only on corpses but in “bad breath” i.e. saliva. Acetone is also heavily present when bodies decompose in oxygen environment. Well... acetone is also a compound in many cleaning products, including Portuguese. One of the dogs was alerted to the “cuddle cat” or the plush toy. Well... what do you think little kids do with plush toys... yeah they drool all over them. The toy was obviously not in the contact with MM’s corpse so here we have further proof of body fluids inducing false positive. (Same thing for Kate’s dress. Anybody who carries kids around will understand.)

Think this is idle speculation? Think again. Cadaver dog expert guilty of faking evidence

“Cadaver dog handler caught fabricating evidence.” - I am not claiming that for Eddie and Keela’s handler fabricated anything BUT it is clear from the conviction that fluids from a LIVING human can be mistaken by dogs for a DEAD one.

I also believe (but this IS just a hunch) that dogs that were trained in the UK in a certain “smell palette” could get confused when in a brand new environment. I still remember my first time in Bangkok. One of the first things that hits you is the smell (not necessarily bad) just so different.

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Hopefully, if you are still in spite of all evidence to the contrary thinking the parents did this - here’s some reasonable doubt for you.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Many reliable thoughts IMO!

According to the unusual behavior of my native colleagues, could footage be the key? Can someone rule out, that the footage of german "Der Spiegel", BKA must have access to, has been manipulated?

Maybe as part of a strategy between prosecutors and the media? Just like..."See what we have!"???

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I mean....the picture is a part of the BKA set, that's for sure! Why is german press releasing it exclusive and behind a paywall....?!

 

[misty48]

Many reliable thoughts IMO!

According to the unusual behavior of my native colleagues, could footage be the key? Can someone rule out, that the footage of german "Der Spiegel", BKA must have access to, has been manipulated?

Maybe as part of a strategy between prosecutors and the media? Just like..."See what we have!"???

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I mean....the picture is a part of the BKA set, that's for sure! Why is german press releasing it exclusive and behind a paywall....?!

Do you think the area of rust/damage around the rear l/h/s wheel of the Westfalia is significant i.e that it could indicate the panel was often removed/put back on to conceal something behind it? There appears to be more rust there than most other places on the van. Here's a SS from a video showing how to replace a panel on a Westfalia - not quite the same as CB's but there is quite a lot of space behind the panel.

at 6m34s

 

[Sharkbite]

POLICE probing Madeleine McCann’s disappearance are to take a key witness back to Portugal.

The man, who we are not identifying, provided German officers with the identity of prime suspect Christian B.

Madeleine McCann cops to take key witness back to Portugal in bid to crack case

 

[SuperdadV8]

Do you think the area of rust/damage around the rear l/h/s wheel of the Westfalia is significant i.e that it could indicate the panel was often removed/put back on to conceal something behind it? There appears to be more rust there than most other places on the van. Here's a SS from a video showing how to replace a panel on a Westfalia - not quite the same as CB's but there is quite a lot of space behind the panel.

at 6m34s

Interesting thought!

 

[noodlefreak]

I hope this case will be soon resolved and together maybe also Rene Hasse s disappearence (linked?) case, 11 years before Madelein s. As far we know that the suspect, CB, had been in Portugal since 1995..

 

[SuperdadV8]

POLICE probing Madeleine McCann’s disappearance are to take a key witness back to Portugal.

The man, who we are not identifying, provided German officers with the identity of prime suspect Christian B.

Madeleine McCann cops to take key witness back to Portugal in bid to crack case

How interesting if true!!!

"German police, Scotland Yard and the Portuguese authorities were also going to take part and the man was going to go in January but because of Covid it was postponed."

Hm...truly because of covid or because of an unplanned extradition to france in january maybe?