Found Deceased Malaysia - Nora Quoirin, 15, from UK, special needs, missing on vacation, Seremban, 4 Aug 2019 #1

[Atoz]

You're right, it's irrelevant, and as we know too well children can go missing from all sorts of places. In many aspects this location could be considered safer than a more populated resort.

Absolutely. We stayed two weeks in rural Costa Rica with a toddler, 10 year old and 14 year old and were fine despite seeing deadly spiders, frogs and snakes. It felt a lot safer than many places in England. And a damn sight less depressing!

 

[AnnesCuthberts]

I can't see how leaving food out could be viable. How far could they even distribute it? Where do you even put it? It's dense jungle so anything on the ground wouldn't be seen well. Animals would just take the food swiftly anyway. It's a sweet idea but just wouldn't work imo.

Ha. Yeah, that is one thing I *didnt* think about. Yep. Migraines getting to me.

 

[Elainera]

It will be daylight soon there- is that day 8?

Day 7.

 

[Mauig’ma]

It will be daylight soon there- is that day 8?

I believe day 6. Missing since August 4

 

[Elainera]

Agree. I don't get what their holiday choice and why they chose there has to do with anything really.

One thing the family's choice tells us is that they were very sure Nora wouldn't wander off at night or fall over the terrace railing or down the spiral staircase. Otherwise they wouldn't have chosen the open plan style house without doors and locks. I'm sure they regret their choice now ...


They should search the river again imo.

 

[tesni]

Day 7 there I think.

 

[sundaaaay]

I'm looking at pictures of the Sora House and the map of The Dunsun again.

If I were police I'd be setting up forensics around the playground beside the house. If she woke early and everyone was asleep she might have got bored and wanted to play.

I also wonder, is it possible to look through the window to the floor she was sleeping on from The Perling House

 

[Skigh]

How far from the house is the river,is it deep and fast flowing?

 

[sundaaaay]

How far from the house is the river,is it deep and fast flowing?

Here's a photo of the river

the Dusun Negeri Sembilan

 

[MimosaMornings]

Malaysia is a great place for driving around, and it looked like car keys on the kitchen counter. I don't think that you can judge their choice of location.

My apologies if my questions sounded judgemental - I wasn’t judging, just thinking out loud if this was the type they had done before. Wondering what Nora was so excited to see there. Not questioning their choice - looking at all angles in a factual way.

 

[Elainera]

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[Armchair_Defective]

I thought the same. Why not “you don’t need to hide; it’s Mummy. I’m here”? I was surprised too. Maybe they have specific reasons?

It was mentioned I think before that they recorded it in a tone she was used to hearing, maybe the wording is also intended to be familiar, maybe she wouldn't understand the concept of hiding.

 

[Simply Southern]

Malaysia is a great place for driving around, and it looked like car keys on the kitchen counter. I don't think that you can judge their choice of location.

I notice the keys, too. I think they are an adventurous family and wanted N to have great experiences and are willing to provide for her special needs.

I would never go on vacation in this environment and have been extreme camping. I'm more of a Hilton gal by choice. My dear daughter now that's another story.
During HS and college she hit every rainforest, jungle and third world county she could.

We are each different. This trip would have been a wonderful experience for this family. I am heartbroken for the family.
All are JMHO

Hoping and praying for N.

 

[HayLouise]

Discussion with @JimGamble_INEQE and @ProfCaryCooper regarding the search for #NoraQuoirin on @BBCTalkback this morning. Starts at 43:00

Talkback - 09/08/2019 - BBC Sounds

findingnora on Twitter

 

[Blamhappy]

Yes, that might be a possibility. But what if the family all took pills to overcome jet lag and were all in deep sleep? One of them might have mentioned it to others on Saturday. MOO

You wouldn’t give children sleeping pills, and they wouldn’t be needed after a long flight.

I’m finding recent posts to be rather far fetched. Nothing can be ruled out, of course, but some scenarios are incredibly unlikely.

 

[Blamhappy]

Do I reallyhave to spell it out what someone would abduct a young girl for?? Predators go to crazy lengths to get their hands on them.

Do they?! I’ve never heard of a case where that happened, and it’s a crazy plan to play out, especially when there were only a few hours to plan it.

 

[Skigh]

Here's a photo of the river

the Dusun Negeri Sembilan

Thank you for posting a picture.It does not look that deep,so if Nora had entered the river it seems possible the searchers would have found her by now.

 

[Rosegold68]

This is an isolated place, I believe you need to drive out to it, village nearby but a distance on foot

So an abductor.... would be on site ( staff or guest) unless tipped off by staff and abductor travelled up to house to abduct Nóra.

There’s no ‘passing traffic’

 

[Suglo]

How far from the house is the river,is it deep and fast flowing?

Here’s a map of the resort with river location.

 

[Blamhappy]

Thank you for posting a picture.It does not look that deep,so if Nora had entered the river it seems possible the searchers would have found her by now.

She could have been carried by the water to a deeper part though.