Yeah, I'm sure it would take me a while to find my albums!
"Thank you. Now, make your case for conviction on each charge."
Okay, now I'm REALLY thinking this is a set-up!
Second-degree murder- okay, here's how it goes. Patsy's fibers are tied into the knots of the cord that strangled her daughter. They are also in the box where the paintbrush came that made the handle. They are also on the strip of duct tape. She claimed she never wore that sweater in the basement and that she never saw the cord before. Also, her story about transfering fibers to JB by laying on her is contradicted by her own book, which states that John had already covered the body before Patsy saw it. The garrote is what actually killed her, we know that, but the evidence suggests that it was purely for cosmetic purposes. Such as: there is no solid evidence that JB struggled at all against it. No tongue damage, no larynx damage, no hyoid bone damage, no thyroid damage to speak of, no indication that the cord slid up and down her neck from her bucking against it, and no indication of scratch marks on her neck trying to claw at it. If that HAD been the case, her arms would be bruised, her fingernails LOADED with skin, and they weren't. Not only that, but the ligature itself was really impractical. There was a foot and a half of length between it and the handle. Imagine, if you will, how far you would have to move your arm up and back to make it work. The shorter, the better. Not only that, but the knot experts consulted said that the knots were very simple. Anyone could have made it. I have myself many times. BUT, at no time is this premeditated. You can't murder someone you think is already dead, and in this case, it looked like she's been killed by the head blow. But even then, there's no evidence that it was premeditated. Dr. Richard Krugman said that the blow was delivered in a fit of anger, which, thanks to concernedperson here on this site, we know Patsy was known to have. But it was NOT premeditated. No evidence suggests that.
Evidence tampering- ah, that's from the other staging aspects. One, the ties around her wrists were very loose. The coroner slipped them right off. And there was about another foot and a half of space between each wrist. Tell me that YOU couldn't move your arms if you had that much space between them. These were not handcuffs. Two, the injury to her vagina from the paintbrush was very quick. It was jabbed in once. It wasn't, that we know of, moved around a lot. The FBI said that the sexual assault was not done for a pedophile killer's pleasure. They are probably right. A REAL pedophile killer would have caused much more damage in a much more intimate way. You don't have to take my word for that, either. Remember Danielle Van Dam? PLUS, the body was wiped down very gently. If a real sex killer had done that to wipe out evidence, he would have stripped it clean of skin. The duct tape over her mouth was also impractical. It was a two-inch square with absolutely NO deformation from her fighting it and a PERFECT set of lip prints on it. That means that she was dead when it was put on. Had to be. If you wanted a kid to keep quiet, wouldn't you put the tape on in multiple layers BEFORE you killed her? The note: it's a long, rambling, stream-of-consciousness treatise on the evils of American business which degenerates into a rant against John specifically with all of her phraseology and little sayings in it. Also, if the killer had come to kill her, why write a ransom note? It would have been more like Scorpio's note in "Dirty Harry."
Hindering an investigation-well, she lied to police. She said that she bought the overlarge panties for her neice, then decided JB could have them. Then she said that she bought them for JB period. THEN, she said that JB picked them out, so she bought them. And that's all in ONE interview! She said that her PI's had taken the pack of underwear, knowing that they were important!
John:
Evidence tampering- same. His fibers are all over her underwear crotch, and since a panel of doctors said that she'd been molested prior to the killing, one CAN make the inference that he knew about it and was involved in staging the sexual assault.
Hindering an investigation-said JB never woke up that night. Burke said she did. Said Burke was asleep, then said he was awake but laying in bed pretending to sleep, then that he was up and around and asking questions. He sent his private investigators to sabotage potential witnesses, which culminated in trying to dig up dirt on Tom Miller in case he was ever called to testify at trial to say what he concluded: Patsy wrote the note.
I know what you're thinking, Wudge: "SuperDave's an idiot, he's a fool, he's a clown. He's heartless, vindictive, cruel, base," etc, etc.
But I'm NOT! Even in my weakest moments, I still have great sympathy for Patsy and John. They deserved a lot better. So did Burke and JB. I said I would convict, yes. But I am not without compassion. I am not heartless. I was greatly saddened by Patsy's passing. I admit, sometimes, in my weakest moments, I would give into hate and anger and imagine Patsy and John in prison having unspeakable things done to them by the inmates, but not anymore. I have tremendous guilt about those feelings and I attribute it to the fact that I am young and hotheaded. That doesn't excuse it, I know. But even though I would convict, I would not seek to punish. It was their loss. That's tough enough.
And i am certainly not a fool, nor am I capable of being fooled.
"I just don't think they would have stood by the other one if one had murdered their child."
Oh, yes they would! Patsy was a definite stand-by-your-man type. And as for John, he'd already screwed up his first marriage with an affair. Do you really think he could admit to himself that he ruined his first marriage only to marry a monster? Not likely!
"How much proof do you need? Most of the evidence points straight to a Ramsey, in particular Patsy Ramsey. And for good reason, because she is the one responsiible for her daughter's death. Karr is a wannabe, his DNA won't match, this was never a DNA case anyway. His story will fall apart on closer investigation, in fact it already is falling apart."
Until I know more, I have to agree.
"A grand Jury and a judge say the R's could not have done it. (or not enough evidence to prove it)
Certainly they were privy to info we are not?"
I don't know about the grand jury, but it is PROVABLE that the judge did not see the evidence the police had gathered, Amraan. I can prove that.