Found Deceased MD - Rachel Morin, 37, left for walk on Ma & Pa Trail 6pm, car found at Williams St entrance, Bel Air, 5 Aug 2023

[Mica]

Looked to me like home security camera, not a doorbell camera.

I believe I heard the officer refer to it as a home security camera.

 

[whitelilac]

Surely investigators are communicating with the PD in LA County.
They may glean more info about the guy's crime there. Maybe even manage to get a sketch if the poor girl can remember. Or any other particularities.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Observations

This guy, at least in March

1. Was very physically fit
2. Precision haircut
3. Clean shaven
4. No discernible tattoos or other markings
5. Clothes not dirty as if he is homeless
6. Gold chain around his neck
7. Little to no back hair/arm hair
8. Looks like he had $; And, he had the means to travel across country

Why Maryland?
Social Media stalking of RM?
Family in Bel Air?
Find the barber in LA - someone cut that hair. That person will at least know (maybe well) or recognize the work
Revisit the LA victim to assure her he is gone; Ask her if there is anything else she can remember

They said she was young. She must still be petrified. If she knows he is across the country or at least was across the country as of 12 days ago, this may give her some comfort to speak.

If she was afraid to say if she ever saw him at a camp, or at a school, on the street, anywhere, for fear he would come back, maybe now she will feel more comfortable disclosing this.

jmo

 

[StarryStarryNight]

I’m just now getting a chance to see this and I am stunned. This is so not what I was expecting.
This is why LE should not assure the public all is well before they know anything. What a nightmare. A coast to coast random killer.
If someone could clarify what exactly he said about not having a name to go with the DNA. Is it just that there is no name with the DNA in codis or that codis won’t give a name with it.(which would be crazy to me).

edit: typo

 

[Puzzles8]

Article featuring interview with Rachel Morin's boyfriend, Richard Tobin - post press conference.

Harford Sheriff's Office DNA to link killer of Rachel Morin

Rachel Morin, a 37-year-old mother of five, was found dead at the weekend on a Maryland hiking trail. Sheriffs on Thursday said they want to speak to a man who broke into a LA house.

www.dailymail.co.uk

JMO

 

[jjenny]

I’m just now getting a chance to see this and I am stunned. This is so not what I was expecting.
This is why LE should not assure the public all is well before they know anything. What a nightmare. A coast to coast random killer.
If someone could clarify what exactly he said about not having a name to go with the DNA. Is it just that there is no name with the DNA in codis or that codis won’t give a name with it.(which would be crazy to me).

edit: typo

They don't know who he is, they just know there is a DNA match to the crime in California. But since they haven't solved the crime in California either, they don't have a name.

 

[investigatefred]

Looked to me like home security camera, not a doorbell camera. It was high up right? That's where my front door one is too. Not concealed either so I bet theirs wasn't.

The guy was brazen. He knew enough to turn away from the camera but didn't care enough to worry about the fact that there were cameras there to start begging the Q -- Did he know the property? Know how many there were and where they were? Did he work at or in the property ever?

Was he one of the installers of the cameras?

So many questions from that little 2 second clip they released.

Just bizarre

It looked like it was doorbell level to me. It wasn't an angle from above. JMO

 

[otto]

Where has this been reported, I haven't seen it. Sad!

I have read young girl. I assume that means someone under the age of 16.

"The man suspected of killing a Maryland woman on a popular hiking trail this month is the same person who assaulted a young girl in Southern California in the spring, according to DNA results, investigators announced Thursday.

Hartford County (Maryland) Sheriff's Col. William Davis said DNA from the person who likely killed Rachel Morin in a 'violent homicide' matched the DNA of a man who assaulted a young girl in Los Angeles during a March home invasion."

USAToday

 

[whitelilac]

He could have a whole bunch of tattoos by now.

In fact, that might be his next move.

Yes true. But the fact he had no tattoos in March is still unusual imo. He's a criminal. It's generally the macho fashion for bad dudes his age, even for not bad guys, and young women. He's not gang affiliated imo. Sure I know a lot of young men who don't have tattoos, but it just seems unlikely (to me) that a creep lowlife like him wouldn't have any.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Isn't this Bel Air, Maryland? Or am I way off on my state abbreviations?

Do I keep saying Maine? Ugh Lol My mistake

 

[Jurisprudence]

It looked like it was doorbell level to me. It wasn't an angle from above. JMO

I guess I'll look again (isn't the doorbell always to left - would be facing him). Whichever it was, he knew it was there and he wasn't worried about it.

So, Q is how did he know there weren't more? How was he so sure there wasn't another (or 2) facing the street, or even inside?

moo

 

[StarryStarryNight]

They don't know who he is, they just know there is a DNA match to the crime in California. But since they haven't solved the crime in California either, they don't have a name.

Thanks. That’s what I thought.

 

[acutename]

Observations

This guy, at least in March

1. Was very physically fit
2. Precision haircut
3. No discernible tattoos or other markings
4. Clothes not dirty as if he is homeless
5. Gold chain around his neck
6. Little to no back hair/arm hair
7. Looks like he had $; And, he had the means to travel across country

Why Maryland?
Social Media stalking of RM?
Family in Bel Air?
Find the barber in LA - someone cut that hair. That person will at least know (maybe well) or recognize the work
Revisit the LA victim to assure her he is gone; Ask her if there is anything else she can remember

They said she was young. She must still be petrified. If she knows he is across the country or at least was across the country as of 12 days ago, this may give her some comfort to speak.

If she was afraid to say if she ever saw him at a camp, or at a school, on the street, anywhere, for fear he would come back, maybe now she will feel more comfortable disclosing this.

jmo

he might have had some connection to someone in the house-"friend of a friend" sort of thing and then he did this- maybe they thought they had a name but it was fake. why he is now 3000 miles away.... if he is involved in something like smuggling the "people who know him" may not be stepping up to ID him IMO.

 

[acutename]

I guess I'll look again. Whichever it was, he knew it was there and he wasn't worried about it.

So, Q is how did he know there weren't more? How was he so sure there wasn't another (or 2) facing the street, or even inside?

moo

he is not a meticulous planner because he left DNA at 2 crime scenes- does not care or he is impulsive

 

[Jurisprudence]

he is not a meticulous planner because he left DNA at 2 crime scenes- does not care or he is impulsive

VERY TRUE!
(But did he work at the house? Ever enter it?)

 

[Jurisprudence]

he might have had some connection to someone in the house-"friend of a friend" sort of thing and then he did this- maybe they thought they had a name but it was fake. why he is now 3000 miles away.... if he is involved in something like smuggling the "people who know him" may not be stepping up to ID him IMO.

Smuggling? Where did that come from? I hadn't heard that.

 

[MyJoey]

Cross country truck driver would be my guess.

 

[whitelilac]

Cross country truck driver would be my guess.

I was just going to say that !
Possible. Is there a depot in the Bel Air area?

If a trucker, he could be anywhere. If not he could be anywhere anyway...ugh.

 

[PommyMommy]

Looked to me like home security camera, not a doorbell camera. It was high up right? That's where my front door one is too. Not concealed either so I bet theirs wasn't.

The guy was brazen. He knew enough to turn away from the camera but didn't care enough to worry about the fact that there were cameras there to start begging the Q -- Did he know the property? Know how many there were and where they were? Did he work at or in the property ever?

Was he one of the installers of the cameras?

So many questions from that little 2 second clip they released.

Just bizarre

Sorry if I missed it, I've just scanned 12 pages to catch up, but do we know how he entered the home? All they have is him leaving? TIA if you know.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Sorry if I missed it, I've just scanned 12 pages to catch up, but do we know how he entered the home? All they have is him leaving? TIA if you know.

No I don't believe they gave any solid details like that. But still, the more I think about that 2-second video the more Qs pop into my head. I thought that video might be of little value but there is actually a lot of information that can be gleaned from it imo