Mel Gibson's latest racist rant

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Will you still watch Mel's movies?

  • Yes, his acting or producing is separate from his personal views

    Votes: 58 29.4%
  • No, his behavior turns me off too much

    Votes: 117 59.4%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 22 11.2%

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Looks like Whoopi caught some grief for defending Mel.

Whoopi Goldberg Defends Herself Defending Mel Gibson

http://www.popeater.com/2010/07/14/whoopi-goldberg-mel-gibson-the-view/
UUmmmm...............this quote from the article:

QUOTE:
"If you had actually watched the show, you would have heard us say, and you would have heard me specifically say, 'I don't condone this. I don't think this is right, I don't think this is smart. But here's the piece of information that I have. My experience tells me that this is not a racist,'" she continued.

"Being a black woman, you'd think you would give me a little bit of leeway to have some feelings if I was around a racist."



Isn't that kind of a racist statement in itself? JMHO
 
I agree with every word.

I just wanted to add that I think the older men with money are doing their fair share of using these younger women too. They are getting what they want...a tight body, a pretty young face, their ego stroked, eye candy whatever you want to call it. It usually a symbiotic relationship.

I agree about the men getting what they want and doing their share of using. They stink and so do their gold diggers. Particularly when good, faithful wives and their children are hurt and humiliated in the process. I do not excuse either of them. That has always been my point.
 
I think she did a very smart thing in recording him, this is not the action of a golddigger, this is self-protection, and exposing his abuse to the world, the true Mel Gibson, not the glib actor we see...

She was smart by recording him given his fame and status. The golddigger action was before that - it was the hook up and the knock up.

I once worked for a plastic surgeon - a wealthy man, fairly good-looking who couldn't keep it in his pants. I managed his office. He insisted I hire a young woman we gave implants for our front office. She was 18, young, long blonde hair, dumb as a stump with horrific grammar and no office skills or appropriate work clothing. She had an older man as a boyfriend...long story short - SHE got knocked up by Dr. diddle is a PLAN so that she would get child support for 18 years from a rich doctor...plan hatched by brilliant 38 year old redneck boyfriend of hers. Some girls will have a baby to "secure" their passive income. Count on it.

Exposing the real Mel is a good thing - we idolize our entertainers way too much anyway. For what they do, they all need a pay cut.
 
I agree about the men getting what they want and doing their share of using. They stink and so do their gold diggers. Particularly when good, faithful wives and their children are hurt and humiliated in the process. I do not excuse either of them. That has always been my point.

Mine too Roze. I will criticize them both. My wise grandma says two wrongs don't make a right. Excusing bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior is a redundant circular argument.
 
She was smart by recording him given his fame and status. The golddigger action was before that - it was the hook up and the knock up.

I once worked for a plastic surgeon - a wealthy man, fairly good-looking who couldn't keep it in his pants. I managed his office. He insisted I hire a young woman we gave implants for our front office. She was 18, young, long blonde hair, dumb as a stump with horrific grammar and no office skills or appropriate work clothing. She had an older man as a boyfriend...long story short - SHE got knocked up by Dr. diddle is a PLAN so that she would get child support for 18 years from a rich doctor...plan hatched by brilliant 38 year old redneck boyfriend of hers. Some girls will have a baby to "secure" their passive income. Count on it.

Exposing the real Mel is a good thing - we idolize our entertainers way too much anyway. For what they do, they all need a pay cut.

and some men marry for a steady sexual partner and live in maid.
 
and while I'm at it...let me defend gold diggers..........There is nothing wrong with being a gold digger. When was the last time you or anyone else here when dating struck up conversations with homeless men? I would bet, not a one. When your daughters are dating, do you tell them to steer clear of successful men? Doubt it. I was taught, by my parents, it's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is a poor one...so date the rich ones!


Any man over 40 dating a woman half their age should be bright enough to know it's not because they have so much in common.;)

Bravo! And why can't older men like Mel Gibson date someone their own age? Someone who isn't glamorous and maybe a little frumpy looking from working hard her whole life and didn't have the time or money to pump plastic into her body? It's a mutual beneficial relationship.
 
She was smart by recording him given his fame and status. The golddigger action was before that - it was the hook up and the knock up.

I once worked for a plastic surgeon - a wealthy man, fairly good-looking who couldn't keep it in his pants. I managed his office. He insisted I hire a young woman we gave implants for our front office. She was 18, young, long blonde hair, dumb as a stump with horrific grammar and no office skills or appropriate work clothing. She had an older man as a boyfriend...long story short - SHE got knocked up by Dr. diddle is a PLAN so that she would get child support for 18 years from a rich doctor...plan hatched by brilliant 38 year old redneck boyfriend of hers. Some girls will have a baby to "secure" their passive income. Count on it.

Exposing the real Mel is a good thing - we idolize our entertainers way too much anyway. For what they do, they all need a pay cut.

I have a similar story. Another older (and God forgive me) ugly wealthy married, business man from town (not the one I mentioned previously) had an affair with an attractive much younger woman. She claimed she was pregnant but then lost the child. The moron then impregnates her AGAIN! She has the child. She got her first child support check and purchased a Jaguar. This guy would not have won either way because both the wife and the mistress were money grubbing nuts. He's is paying through the wallet and with constant emotional beatings from the wife. I would love to ask him if it was worth those few moments of pleasure.
 
Bravo! And why can't older men like Mel Gibson date someone their own age? Someone who isn't glamorous and maybe a little frumpy looking from working hard her whole life and didn't have the time or money to pump plastic into her body? It's a mutual beneficial relationship.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58912&highlight=pierce+brosnan

Your comment reminded me of a thread we had here a while back where Pierce Brosnans wife was getting some attention for being IMO a very normal woman.

VB
 
and some men marry for a steady sexual partner and live in maid.

???? Not sure I get the point. It could be pointing to bad behavior to justify other bad behavior I'm not sure. I think a lot of people marry for a steady sexual partner as ONE part of the relationship and I can be maid if I never have to take out the garbage or grocery shop which I hate! Mutual love and respect can be reached in many types of relationships. This type is a mutual user type - he uses her for her youth, beauty and to make him feel studly and she uses him for his money, fame, security. I think you can tell here there is no mutual love and respect.

So you are condoning marrying or hooking up with a guy because he's wealthy if you otherwise wouldn't even look twice at the geezer/dweeb?
 
Bravo! And why can't older men like Mel Gibson date someone their own age? Someone who isn't glamorous and maybe a little frumpy looking from working hard her whole life and didn't have the time or money to pump plastic into her body? It's a mutual beneficial relationship.

In all fairness, Oksana isn't that young. She is either 39 or 40. And by the way Gibson didn't have to date anyone his own age, he was married to a woman his own age. But his wife wasn't meeting his spiritual needs (or something to that effect), from what he told Oksana.
 
Am I the only one who feels sorry for Mel? I don't know all the details but it looks like he was taken for a ride by some kind of succubus!

There's a part on the tape where he says (paraphrasing), "I don't have any friends and I tried to make one in you."

Jacobi,

I am still reading all the posts in this thread so everyone forgive me if I say something off because I haven't read everything yet. I have always admired Webslueths and enjoy reading. I usually don't post, but I wanted to respond to this post. I "feel sorry for Mel" in SOME ways. The tirade seems to be a drunken angry venting of emotions that go WAY back further than this woman has been alive! While I wouldn't want to be on the other end of the conversation by any means, MOO is that she is "setting him up".

As you say, he does say that he has no friends. I think most of his "friends" were probably connected to his wife and left his side when he left hers. I think any friends they had probably did not like him leaving his wife for Oksana. I am a female, who was in a mentally/emotionally abusive first marriage and am by NO MEANS taking up for Mel's behavior, nor do I have a clue if he is as bad as he sounds on that call.

Oksana is far from "scared" sounding on her end and she is very controlled and clipped. She appears to know exactly what buttons to push, "you need help" "you need medication", etc...to start him on another tirade. I began to wonder when she suddenly has a dentist who just HAPPENED to take pictures of her veneers/or was it her actual teeth (2 stories going around) NOT because he would turn them over to police (which the law requires him to do) but to use as "models" to make new ones. I am not saying this could not possibly be true but it is a little too convenient.

Another thing that bothers me about the call is that when he is going on about her fake breasts and how she dresses and makes the racist comment, he says IF that happens, then you DESERVE it. Later in the conversation where she is questioning how a man could hit a woman holding a baby and break her teeth when he says "you deserved it", it sounds VERY much like the previous topic, making me wonder how edited the tapes might actually be.

I'm not saying Mel is not responsible for this and that it is her fault. However, I think it will take proof that the tape is actual and unedited before I believe that she did not set him up, not because she was scared or that no one would believe her, but for her own personal reasons, whatever they are.

I also know that I have said things to loved ones during my life that were "threatening" in nature...."if you do that again I'm going to shoot you" "if you don't quit you might not live to see [insert next age of child]". Luckily all my conversations were not taped. That being said, he still has no right to talk to her like that, but likewise she could have hung up, unplugged the phone, called a taxi and went somewhere else till he was sober, etc. I sure wouldn't have stayed on the phone and egged my former husband on for that long!

I also think that he has dramatically changed in the past decade, but on the interview someone posted Diane Sawyer asks him if he was angry and he made some remark that he had been angry for a LONG time. I forget the actual time reference he used but it was long before even the DUI arrest.
 
In all fairness, Oksana isn't that young. She is either 39 or 40.

But she is not frumpy and I don't consider 40 old, when it's been enhanced and preserved by plastic surgery. She's physically attractive in a hard, asymmetrical Picasso-iike way.
 
But she is not frumpy and I don't consider 40 old, when it's been enhanced and preserved by plastic surgery. She's physically attractive in a hard, asymmetrical Picasso-iike way.

I personally think she looked much better before the plastic surgery.
But that's neither here nor there. By the way, I don't think there are many women out there, who would rather look frumpy than attractive and younger than their biological age.
 
I personally think she looked much better before the plastic surgery.
But that's neither here nor there. By the way, I don't think there are many women out there, who would rather look frumpy than attractive and younger than their biological age.

I agree with you. We all want to look good for our age and I am not anti plastic surgery by any means.
 
???? Not sure I get the point. It could be pointing to bad behavior to justify other bad behavior I'm not sure. I think a lot of people marry for a steady sexual partner as ONE part of the relationship and I can be maid if I never have to take out the garbage or grocery shop which I hate! Mutual love and respect can be reached in many types of relationships. This type is a mutual user type - he uses her for her youth, beauty and to make him feel studly and she uses him for his money, fame, security. I think you can tell here there is no mutual love and respect.

So you are condoning marrying or hooking up with a guy because he's wealthy if you otherwise wouldn't even look twice at the geezer/dweeb?


You know, I was never one to listen to my parents. lol I dated my share of filthy rich men, jobless & carless hot men, smart men and dumb as a rock men and almost everywhere in between...I didn't marry until I was 38! There were many many frogs along the way. I gave almost anyone that asked me out a honest and fair chance. Yes, even guys I didn't find physically attractive. I ended up with someone I love very much, not rich-not poor...just comfortable. A man that lets me be me and respects me as a person.

Oh....lost my train of thought...YES, I am condoning it.

EDITED to add.....What I do not condon is dating a married man!
 
In all fairness, Oksana isn't that young. She is either 39 or 40. And by the way Gibson didn't have to date anyone his own age, he was married to a woman his own age. But his wife wasn't meeting his spiritual needs (or something to that effect), from what he told Oksana.

LMAO

:floorlaugh: :rotfl:

I know you might not have meant that as funny but seriously?

I almost spit soda out of my nose :D
 
LMAO

:floorlaugh: :rotfl:

I know you might not have meant that as funny but seriously?

I almost spit soda out of my nose :D

Mel told Oksana that he and his wife had no spiritual common ground.
So I wasn't trying to be funny.
 
Mel told Oksana that he and his wife had no spiritual common ground.
So I wasn't trying to be funny.

Finding a spiritual common ground with Mel would be rather difficult. He appears to preach one thing and practice another. I'm not sure why he felt he would find common ground with Oksana under the circumstances. Just goes to show you how truly fried the guy is.

I pray he finds sobriety, sanity and peace for the sake of those who truly love him.
 
In all fairness, Oksana isn't that young. She is either 39 or 40. And by the way Gibson didn't have to date anyone his own age, he was married to a woman his own age. But his wife wasn't meeting his spiritual needs (or something to that effect), from what he told Oksana.

She's my age then & I don't think I look old for my age but I sure don't have the glamor & beauty that Oksana has. Probably these men don't date women their own age b/c said women won't put up with their like someone younger and more impressed by the almighty dollar will. JMO
 
Just found this poll. I don't know that I recall EVER seeing a Mel Gibson movie...certainly, I never saw one on purpose, so his boorish behavior won't effect my viewing habits in that regard.

I listened to a few of the tapes. I think it's lame that someone would make tapes of their lover and then publish them for public consumption. I also think it sounds like he talks a bunch of aggressive ugly stuff when he's been drinking. He obviously has some anger.

I've never really thought of Gibson one way or another - I know he has had some alcohol issues. I know he did that Passion of Christ movie which didn't catch my fancy. I know he's Catholic and that this woman is or was pregnant with his child. That's about it.

I'm sure something else crazy will happen or someone will die and he'll be off of the public hotseat, which I hope happens sooner than later.
 
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