Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #7

[Missouri Mule]

The lack of motive on Janelle and Mike's part is also what has lead me to believe they probably weren't involved, but boy, did they behave weirdly.

Agreed.

I rule them out as involved. No motive is plausible.

I am about 99% ruling out the crypt vandals. Their alibis seem consistent.

The plausible suspects need to be pared down. How many are plausibly left?

 

[CircuitGuy]

Really? Last person to see the victims alive, first person at their house the next day, walking through their house answering the phone, doing some late spring cleaning, and even with all the cars in front of the house and the three nowhere to be found, goes ahead and takes the trip.

What do you mean by "takes the trip"? Do you mean they went on to White Water water park?

 

[Kittycat01]

My dilemma has always been, entry into the home and motive. No signs of forced entry. 3 scenarios, someone had a key, someone was known and trusted by Sherrill or Suzie, or someone in authority, or posing as such gained entry.

 

[Kittycat01]

There is evidence, from what I have heard and read, that Suzie and Stacy made it home under no duress, unless the reports are false. Cars parked, no signs of forced entry. Purses there, signs of makeup removal on hand towels, TV on, Stacy's shorts off. One doesn't remove their makeup, turn a TV on if a gun is pointed at your head. I believe there was a knock at the door, someone known was there and entry was gained. Why, I don't know.

 

[Kittycat01]

The lack of a "break in" is key to me.

 

[monkeymann]

Google Garrison v State of Missouri (Appeals Trial/Case)

It gives a pretty detailed account of his crime

 

[TexasT]

The lack of motive on Janelle and Mike's part is also what has lead me to believe they probably weren't involved, but boy, did they behave weirdly.

If you look into events following Til their divorce there are possible motives revealed .

 

[proctorelites]

If you look into events following Til their divorce there are possible motives revealed .

Til? Help😅i'm not sure what this refers t. o

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[MooseMeMuch]

:thinking:Broken glass globe, light bulb was not broken. There has been no mention of blood on the pieces of glass or blood stains on the porch.
The broken glass was the only sign of a possible struggle but there was no blood which makes me wonder if the unsub(s) purposely broke it. Either to destroy evidence or as a ruse to get the women to open the door.

How much force is needed to totally dislodge a globe? If one of the women kicked it out, would the glass land only on the porch? Wouldn't the globe go sideways vs straight down (onto the porch)? And wouldn't the body part that connected with the globe, get cut? My point is, if the globe went downward, glass landing only on the porch, the unsub(s) purposely did it.

Barefoot women were carried possibly after being anesthetized. Larry Hall used starter fluid to anesthetize his victims.
That's just my theory of how they got the women out without leaving a blood trail.

Wish those kids hadn't been so thoughtful....but then again, after all was said and done, somebody else would have cleaned it up. :doh:

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Google Garrison v State of Missouri (Appeals Trial/Case)

It gives a pretty detailed account of his crime

Yes and it was disgusting what he did to that poor young woman. What a mean, gross little man. He didn't murder the woman but I believe he is capable and he obviously enjoys torturing people. Glad he's locked up!

 

[Jennibee]

I am going to decide on grave robbers being involved but not directly. There was something bigger to lose with Suzie's impending testimony. IMO


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[Blue Girl1991]

I am going to decide on grave robbers being involved but not directly. There was something bigger to lose with Suzie's impending testimony. IMO


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I also support in your theory Jennibee

They probably had contact with very dangerous people , criminals who decided to silence the women, maybe Suzie's Ex boyfriend and his friend didn't had direct contact with those who committed the crime but I think Suzie's Acquaintance with dustin and his friend clay led to the disappearance.
I am sure Recla And Clay have information they kept to themselves and never shared it with the police.

I don't know how hard was the pressure on them during the investigation,
did the police really pressured them or just gave them coffee and cookie , tested them with the polygraph and just let them go without any surveillance or tracking what they did after?

Sorry for my sarcasm but I just Frustrated that this is a crime of 25 years without any progress in the investigation and the criminals are free When the women disappeared so long ago. I heard about this case less than a year and a half ago and I can't wait for a closure and justice for the women's families

 

[Jenny0101]

One thing I'm curious about is Suzie's upset stomach. This is pure speculation, but what if she was pregnant? Probably no way to know at this point, but it might give someone motive.

 

[Kittycat01]

Wow, I read about Garrison-what a sick person. But his crime I don't think really fits the MO with the 3MW. I also don't understand the post about Janelle and Mike and a divorce? Can you clarify please? Thank you.

 

[Kittycat01]

Suzie could have been pregnant, anything is possible.

 

[Jenny0101]

That's what's so frustrating about this case. There's so little concrete evidence that almost anything is possible.

 

[TexasT]

One thing I'm curious about is Suzie's upset stomach. This is pure speculation, but what if she was pregnant? Probably no way to know at this point, but it might give someone motive.

Ding ding ding


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[Kittycat01]

Men have killed their partners over an unwanted pregnancy, going back forever (Grace Brown & Chester Gillette 1906 comes to mind, or Kelsie Schelling more recently).

However, why take out Sherrill and Stacy as well? Why not just meet Suzie alone, "Hey, let's talk about the baby, let's get married" etc. Kill her, and dispose of her. I don't think a pregnancy was the cause of this.

 

[Jenny0101]

Maybe she was about to tell. It's always seemed to me that it had to be done that night for some reason; no other time would do. Could also explain why Suzie was so upset that night and didn't want to be alone, but also didn't want to stay with the big crowd at Janelle's house.

 

[proctorelites]

Suzie could have been pregnant, anything is possible.

I always wondered if it was a boyfriend, girlfriend vendetta. Possibly, one of the girls being sexually assaulted by a friend, adult, whatever, going home to Sherrill's house to get help, and direction not really sure how to proceed. That could still explain the makeup on the cloth and jewelry being removed. They could be sitting in that bathroom wiping one of the girl's faces calming her, each changing for comfort, deciding how to proceed. Some rape survivors do NOT want to report. Maybe the victim was indecisive on reporting the rape. Had said yes let's go and changed her mind while they were getting their things together. So, mom grabs the purses, while the other is consoling her friend. Because she's hoping she will stick with going to the emergency room, as soon as she says yes, she wants their purses right there so she won't have time to change her mind again. They can just walk out of the door. Maybe the process of explaining a rape was still happening and would explain why 911 had not been called. Sherril could have been trying to make am executive decision on their nxt course of action. But before they could do anything the per showed up to confront the victim.

The suspect decided forcible action was needed. His friend or gf or wife went along to support him talking to the girl to convince her it's all a misunderstanding not expecting it to escalate. But an angry Sherrill wasn't having that crap. 2 angry women and an emotionally distraught victim....All hell broke loose. That's absolutely off the wall speculation. But, rape happens quietly sometimes. Entire parties can be happening all around a rape and nobody notice.

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