Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #11

[Just the Fax]

Perhaps there was none of this at the location of her body either, which would rule out she was murdered there. No signs of a struggle at the scene is also possible. Dependent on COD and considering the swiftness of declaring it a homicide, the manner of death must have been rather obvious I would think. LE could have also seen something in the home when Brad invited them in previous days that raised an alert, possibly resulting in the soon to come search warrant, now sealed.

Like all of us, it was likely apparent to all the cops her body was dumped there. As many posters have confirmed, it is not remotely feasible to think she was jogging down very busy Holly Springs road.

The autopsy will be interesting for sure.
My preliminary vote for COD is strangulation (bare hands or ligature) with maybe some evidence of blunt force trauma.

 

[panthera]

If that's the case, there is evidence she was killed somewhere in Cary because the Cary police took over the day the body was identified as Nancy.

I don't think they have such hard evidence (blood or her clothing found in cary, ect)....but who knows ?

If Brad killed her, it probably was strangulation or smothering which wouldn't give LE much forensic evidence. The only thing I'm curious about are the items LE took from his house. One bag seemed to have a somewhat large item in it, as I recall. Just MOO

 

[Just the Fax]

If Brad killed her, it probably was strangulation or smothering which wouldn't give LE much forensic evidence. The only thing I'm curious about are the items LE took from his house. One bag seemed to have a somewhat large item in it, as I recall. Just MOO

I too wondered what that was ?
A floor plant ? Floor lamp?

We know they grabbed the standard stuff...computers, answering machine, cell phones, financial and estate records, photos, notes and other items of interest from his office.

 

[panthera]

I too wondered what that was ?
A floor plant ? Floor lamp?

We know they grabbed the standard stuff...computers, answering machine, cell phones, financial and estate records, photos, notes and other items of interest from his office.

At first I was thinking it was something that might have been used as a weapon but I really can't see him bludgeoning her and then putting her in the back of his car to take her to where she was found. Too risky for transferring blood evidence, imo. If only we knew how she was killed!

 

[Just the Fax]

There is a reason the cops are not telling us the COD and there is also a reason why Brad and his attorney wants them to.

 

[Star12]

At first I was thinking it was something that might have been used as a weapon but I really can't see him bludgeoning her and then putting her in the back of his car to take her to where she was found. Too risky for transferring blood evidence, imo. If only we knew how she was killed!

My guess is that long thing was a shovel.

 

[panthera]

My guess is that long thing was a shovel.

That's interesting ~ something I hadn't thought of!

 

[WSTarheel]

My guess is that long thing was a shovel.

I was thinking stand up vacuum cleaner.

 

[Raebie]

I'm leaning towards an impromptu fight that got out of control and she ended up dead. Did she trip & hit her head on a table, did he land on devastating blow?

We'll know soon enough.

 

[WSTarheel]

>> If only we knew how she was killed!

I have no first hand knowledge but I live in the area and keep hearing the rumor of stab wounds. That's the rumor circulating around BC's workplace, etc.

 

[panthera]

>> If only we knew how she was killed!

I have no first hand knowledge but I live in the area and keep hearing the rumor of stab wounds. That's the rumor circulating around BC's workplace, etc.

OMG ~ if that is true, her body would definitely have to be wrapped in something like bedding to be transported, and where is that?

 

[OtisCampbell]

That's interesting ~ something I hadn't thought of!

You didn't think that if he hit her with an object that it may have been a shovel? Why would you? There's been zero evidence that she was even struck by an object. You find it interesting that someone thinks she was struck with a shovel?

If it turns out that she was in fact struck by an object it could be any of hundreds of objects.

It could have been a hammer.
It could have been a vase.
It could have been a candle holder.
It could have been a wall clock.
It could have been...........
I'm tired now, so I think I'll stop.

 

[NCBanker]

>> If only we knew how she was killed!

I have no first hand knowledge but I live in the area and keep hearing the rumor of stab wounds. That's the rumor circulating around BC's workplace, etc.

That would certainly make more sense of LE getting samples of his DNA. If the COD was strangulation, there's typically no DNA, unless she scratched him.

Remember in the rebuttal affidavit from Brad that he stated Nancy phoned him while he was out Saturday morning to tell him to buy an additional item. If that is substantiated, it certainly changes a lot of our theories regarding time of death being around midnight.

To Otis: We apologize that our level of sleuthing doesn't meet with your approval. Unlike the rest of us, you're obviously educated beyond your intelligence.

 

[panthera]

:couch:

 

[EntreNous]

Wow, Otis, I thought that was what this forum was for. Ya know, sleuthing and whatnot. I think there are a lot of really bright people here with some interesting ideas. I find the theories and insights fascinating personally.

I also thought the large item might be an upright vacuum cleaner/sweeper.

 

[boxy]

There would be no point in WCSO starting a new investigation when the case was clearly being handled by Cary police. Since she disappeared from Cary, it made sense to let them continue the investigation.....these departments work together all the time.

That would be logical and you may be correct but not what I remember hearing from the news media. The CPD were doing a missing person case. A murder case is substantially different. I just hope whoever is doing the investigation does a good job.

 

[CyberPro]

<SNIP>
The problem with this forum is that there's very little logical thinking.

I disagree! I agree there IS some speculation, but it IS logical, based upon the information that is available. I make a living by logical thinking, so I think I am qualified to recognize it when I see it.

Now, it might well be that we will receive different information that will render some of these theories invalid, but nothing on the face of the theories advanced to this point are absent at least some degree of logical thinking.

So, if you seek logic, let's examine the facts, as we understand them thus far.

1. Nancy was murdered
2. She was found in a location that was not listed in her typical running paths.
3. She was seen leaving the BBQ on Friday, and there were no reports of anyone seeing her after this, other than BC.
4. If she did leave to run, the manner of her leaving was atypical of her normal pattern.
5. She did not arrive at an appointment that she was scheduled to attend, and she was noted as being punctual.
6. She did not inform anyone that she would not attend the appointment.
7. The last person who reported seeing her alive was BC.
8. The marriage was troubled, and reportedly on the verge of collapse
9. BC did not report her as being overdue, even when she was much later getting back than she planned to be.

Now, this does not all completely add up to BC being guilty, but his actions do not seem to be in line with what many people would do in a similar situation. This, coupled with the fact that she lived in a fairly safe area, would have had to be abducted in daylight, and dumped in daylight, and the closest people to the victim are always under suspicion, it seems completely logical that he receives a very close inspection, unless you have a better suspect.

CyberPro

 

[Just the Fax]

That would certainly make more sense of LE getting samples of his DNA. If the COD was strangulation, there's typically no DNA, unless she scratched him.

Remember in the rebuttal affidavit from Brad that he stated Nancy phoned him while he was out Saturday morning to tell him to buy an additional item. If that is substantiated, it certainly changes a lot of our theories regarding time of death being around midnight.

To Otis: We apologize that our level of sleuthing doesn't meet with your approval. Unlike the rest of us, you're obviously educated beyond your intelligence.

NCBanker, if there was a stabbing, you know there would be a flood of blood. Hard to imagine him cleaning all beyond the reach of luminol.

Concerning the 6:40 am call from "Nancy"...we speculated he placed that call from the home phone to his cell right before he left for the 2nd trip to the store....5 minutes away.

 

[boxy]

One of the pictures in the Pictures thread has the outline of a body near the site where the body was found. Is that red spray paint or has that been photoshopped onto the image? If the latter, how is the location of the body known?

 

[Star12]

The reason I said shovel is that the one time BC was out searching, he found and pointed out a construction shovel to those with whom he was searching.

The long item in the bag did not appear to be overly heavy nor bulky. Perhaps a shovel?