GUILTY NC - William “Andy” Banks, 39, Raleigh, met someone about selling his car, 12 Sept 2020 *ARREST*

[Laughing]

Welcome, new posters!

So sorry that this difficulty in your neighbor/friend's life brought you here....

 

[Demi.Ariel]

Hi what is the Millard reference referring to?

I believe the reference is to Dellen Millard and Mark Smich

 

[oviedo]

I agree, I was trying to be compassion it, because I know his friends and family may be reading these as well.

Yes you are quite right - I am hoping for the best of course
I’ve been around a long time and I’m apologize for my bluntness at times

 

[EggSalad]

If he’s been buying and selling cars for awhile, is it common for him to go on a test drive with potential buyers? Or have them go alone? I have not heard of sellers going along in the car with strangers. That sounds dangerous.

Agreed, this was puzzling to me also. And with Covid, getting in a car with two strangers is really high risk too.

And Cameron Village is way too busy on a Saturday to think he could be forced into a vehicle against his will and not make a huge scene and immediately be noticed.

 

[Dadawada]

Raleigh local here. You wouldn't really get on 440 to head to Danville, but there is a portion of 440 that is also I-40 (we call 440 the Beltline). Perhaps the perpetrators didn't know that. It's easy to get mixed up in that section of roadway if you aren't familiar with the ins and outs.

There HAS to be cameras in Cameron Village. BUT, one thing that sticks out to me is that the K&W closed permanently recently. So, even though Cameron Village is a busy spot, that section of the shopping center might not have been.

The gentleman's phone was reported to have been found near exit 287. That exit is I-40 West at Harrison Avenue. I'm guessing it was mistakenly reported as Exit 287 on I-440. So it would be headed West towards the Danville, Va area. I have used I-40 and 29 to travel to that area as my grandparents lived there.

 

[Dadawada]

Has anyone seen more detail about where Andy’s phone was found?
This article was just updated and includes a better photo: Raleigh man, car still missing after being last seen Saturday at Cameron Village | CBS 17

eta: I don’t understand Venmo. This system actually shows the public individuals’ financial transactions?

According to the news, the phone was found at Exit 287. That Exit is the Harrison Avenue exit from I-40 West if the maps are correct...

 

[Truecolors]

According to the news, the phone was found at Exit 287. That Exit is the Harrison Avenue exit from I-40 West if the maps are correct...

That makes more sense. I40, not 440.

Just terrifying that a 6 ft grown man could disappear while selling a car in a populated area like Cameron Village.

 

[EggSalad]

The gentleman's phone was reported to have been found near exit 287. That exit is I-40 West at Harrison Avenue. I'm guessing it was mistakenly reported as Exit 287 on I-440. So it would be headed West towards the Danville, Va area. I have used I-40 and 29 to travel to that area as my grandparents lived there.

Umstead Park and various woods are to the right off Harrison Ave. however, on a Saturday afternoon there would be a lot of hikers/bikers out in that area and cars parked along the road.

It would be worth trying to get this info out to any Raleigh cycling/Umstead type groups to see if anyone noticed that Range Rover Saturday afternoon.

 

[DaniElle0905]

This is local to me. I was watching the news at 5 when they aired an interview with his brother& parents(?) Nothing new was really said other then what’s already been posted here. Except they briefly mentioned that they didn’t think his going missing was related to an “incident” from his past, they didn’t say what the incident was though. I’m going to watch again at 11 cause I’m sure they’ll replay it to make sure they referred to it as an incident. Maybe it has nothing to do with this but who knows.

 

[Truecolors]

Umstead Park and various woods are to the right off Harrison Ave. however, on a Saturday afternoon there would be a lot of hikers/bikers out in that area and cars parked along the road.

It would be worth trying to get this info out to any Raleigh cycling/Umstead type groups to see if anyone noticed that Range Rover Saturday afternoon.

There are also gas stations at that exit on Harrison. They would have cameras.

 

[stormymama]

The gentleman's phone was reported to have been found near exit 287. That exit is I-40 West at Harrison Avenue. I'm guessing it was mistakenly reported as Exit 287 on I-440. So it would be headed West towards the Danville, Va area. I have used I-40 and 29 to travel to that area as my grandparents lived there.

That makes more sense actually. When I originally heard 440, there wasn’t an exit # provided.

 

[sloothseeker]

News reports stated he was going to walk 15 mins to an old gf apartment complex for his next car purchase, a BMW. Anybody know if that car is still at the complex or also gone?

 

[steff13]

This case doesn't feel right to me. In as much as anything like this can feel right. I'm interested to see what the CC TV in the area shows.

 

[sun16]

News reports stated he was going to walk 15 mins to an old gf apartment complex for his next car purchase, a BMW. Anybody know if that car is still at the complex or also gone?

It was still there.

 

[Jeepguy]

This case doesn't feel right to me. In as much as anything like this can feel right. I'm interested to see what the CC TV in the area shows.

As in, you think there is more to it potentially than what it seems. With the car "buyers" kidnapping him and taking off?

 

[sloothseeker]

As in, you think there is more to it potentially than what it seems. With the car "buyers" kidnapping him and taking off?

Unfortunately yes, especially discarding his phone as well as using a burner phone prior to the meeting in the K&W parking lot.

 

[steff13]

As in, you think there is more to it potentially than what it seems. With the car "buyers" kidnapping him and taking off?

I think that it was meant to look like a car buy but wasn't. So what was is it? If it was a kidnapping, it's unlikely to be random; Andy appears to be an average middle-aged guy, he isn't wealthy nor is his family, that we've heard. And no ransom has been requested. So if he was kidnapped, it was likely personal to him, IMO.

But kidnapping wasn't foremost on my mind, though. What was the incident his family alluded to in the news interview, I wonder?

 

[Boodles]

Umstead Park and various woods are to the right off Harrison Ave. however, on a Saturday afternoon there would be a lot of hikers/bikers out in that area and cars parked along the road.

It would be worth trying to get this info out to any Raleigh cycling/Umstead type groups to see if anyone noticed that Range Rover Saturday afternoon.

Also, the quarry is to the right off Harrison Ave (exit 287), coming from Raleigh, before the entrance to Umstead Park. But it’s not apparent from I-40 as it’s hidden by trees.

 

[Boodles]

How valuable would a vehicle like this Range Rover be if offered to a chop shop or other parts dealers?

 

[Truecolors]

Also, the quarry is to the right off Harrison Ave (exit 287), coming from Raleigh, before the entrance to Umstead Park. But it’s not apparent from I-40 as it’s hidden by trees.

Active quarry. I don’t know about a Saturday, but I wouldn’t expect to drive into that quarry inconspicuously.

I wonder if the phone was found along the exit ramp (indicating they’d left the highway at exit 287), or just near there. The highway itself is busy in that spot. I think I’d notice something being thrown from the window from a RR in front of me.