NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #10

[KaaBoom]

So my sister works for MGM Grand (owns Mandalay Bay), worked in Mandalay Bay at the Michael Jackson cirque show and now works at Ka (at MGM Grand) and was working this night.

I am paraphrasing what she told me: Most people along the strip (hotel staff and guests) did not know for a long time EXACTLY what was going on - even inside MB - in order to not cause panic/pandemonium. SO many visitors/guests do not speak English and it can get hectic/panic-driven QUICK - you'd need a translator or multiple translators of about five different languages, so MB hotel staff was told to remain calm - keep guests calm. For a long time, they were just told "there is a security incident - stay where you are"

At MB, around 10pm they stopped the MJ cirque show and then cops and SWAT came to secure the theater. Lights turned off and guarded locked doors of the theater for about eight hours with ~1000-1200 people inside. Staff again were instructed not to tell the audience what was happening, so people were trying to use news sites and social media to figure out what was going on. They released them from the theater at 6am, so the time to panic was over a long time before that.

Not a total, 360-degree perspective but I just thought I'd offer what I know.

For the record, news reports said that that theatre was evacuated at 3AM, and there was some panic.

Jennifer Miller and Charlene Gibson had never been to Las Vegas before.

And the sisters-in-law from the Lehigh Valley were having a wonderful time, taking in the "Michael Jackson ONE" Cirque du Soleil show Sunday night in the first floor auditorium at the Mandalay Bay resort.

About an hour into the show, "they cut it off," Gibson, 47, of Wilson Borough, said Tuesday afternoon.

"'There's a situation on the casino floor,'" they were told, Gibson said. The casino is right next to the auditorium, she added. "'We'll get back to you in a little bit."

"Cops swarmed in, SWAT swarmed in," Gibson said. "It was crazy."

People in the auditorium, filling the void of actual information with whatever they could learn from their phones, concluded there were three shooters, Miller, 46, of Bethlehem Township, said.

People panicked, wanting to get out of the auditorium, Miller said. One person had a seizure.

Locals on lockdown in Las Vegas during murderous rampage _ lehighvalleylive.com.html

“Police had guns trained on all the doors. At one point, someone tried to get in from outside and they ordered everyone to hit the ground. Five hundred people got down as fast as you can blink.”

Cunningham described the demeanor inside the theater as “eerily quiet.”

“People were looking at their phones, kind of consoling each other, some people were texting or talking to their kids, telling them they were OK,” he said.

After 3 a.m., the theater attendees were bused to a safe spot on the UNLV campus, Cunningham said.

Las Vegas shooting _ Jordan Cunningham of SLO put on lockdown _ The Tribunel

 

[angelainwi]

Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock claimed Americans needed to wake up to government plot to seize guns

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...ericans-needed-wake-up-call-article-1.3994558

 

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“A person staying in a room two floors below and six rooms away from the gunman on the Mandalay Bay’s 30th floor during the Las Vegas mass shooting tried to call 911 and the hotel’s front desk to report that the shooter sounded like he was on that floor or above it.

The person, whose name and gender were redacted in records released Wednesday by Las Vegas Metropolitan Police, was unable to get through to 911 or the Mandalay Bay and instead called the nearby Luxor hotel to report the shooting.

The call was transferred to Mandalay Bay security and the person reported the shooter appeared to be on the 30th floor”


More here:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...f4067e-5966-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html

I wonder why he couldn't get through to 911 directly?

 

[KaaBoom]

I wonder why he couldn't get through to 911 directly?

Maybe the switchboard was jammed?

 

[mpnola]

Maybe the switchboard was jammed?

Right. Because despite what people here are saying happened, thousands of people were calling 911 for an emergency. I know 2 people that were in Delano at the time. It was terrifying, they were locked in place and one complaining they were hungry and weren't allowed to leave. (although, in the scheme of things, most will be ok in a hotel room without food for a bit. Actual emergencies were happening

Edit- Delano is part of Mandalay Bay

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[smoghat]

Well… that explains everything to me. It just makes sense. He had a huge gun collection. And if someone had a huge gun collection, wouldn't they want to use it one day? Plus he was an outcast who didn't like people and had a grudge against the world. Maybe he thought his health was failing or the casino ripped him off, so time to go out in a blaze of "glory."

Meanwhile, guns are big business in Vegas, and Nevada and the current federal administration sees the NRA as their biggest supporters. So, of course, they were going to quash this information.

 

[HMSHood]

Las Vegas police release next wave of records from Oct. 1 shooting
Las Vegas police release next wave of records from Oct. 1 shooting

A 2,100 page report has been released.

 

[Tricia]

OMG. According to Doug Poppa's new story the Las Vegas Swat Team was ordered NOT to respond to the Mandalay Bay shooting.

There are no words. READ HERE

 

[CoolJ]

OMG. According to Doug Poppa's new story the Las Vegas Swat Team was ordered NOT to respond to the Mandalay Bay shooting.

There are no words. READ HERE

The SWAT members reports sound an awful lot like some of the early witness reports with regards to multiple shooters/ multiple locations....

I would like to learn more about how they ruled this out.

This is where the LVMPD assigned their most prized resource—>multiple shooters/multiple locations.

These SWAT officers are the real deal. They are like professional athletes and their sport is SWAT. If there is something going down, you want them there.

 

[CARIIS]

So my sister works for MGM Grand (owns Mandalay Bay), worked in Mandalay Bay at the Michael Jackson cirque show and now works at Ka (at MGM Grand) and was working this night.

I am paraphrasing what she told me: Most people along the strip (hotel staff and guests) did not know for a long time EXACTLY what was going on - even inside MB - in order to not cause panic/pandemonium. SO many visitors/guests do not speak English and it can get hectic/panic-driven QUICK - you'd need a translator or multiple translators of about five different languages, so MB hotel staff was told to remain calm - keep guests calm. For a long time, they were just told "there is a security incident - stay where you are"

At MB, around 10pm they stopped the MJ cirque show and then cops and SWAT came to secure the theater. Lights turned off and guarded locked doors of the theater for about eight hours with ~1000-1200 people inside. Staff again were instructed not to tell the audience what was happening, so people were trying to use news sites and social media to figure out what was going on. They released them from the theater at 6am, so the time to panic was over a long time before that.

Not a total, 360-degree perspective but I just thought I'd offer what I know.

hopefully making this thread go to my subscriptions

 

[CARIIS]

is there a way to make all threads open with the last post FIRST

i did it on old one it was much better than scrolling all over the place and you get the lastest info first

i have no idea yet if i know how to get back here so if you could PM me step by step (Click by click ) that would be awesome

at the same time i have not tried a pm yet so may not be able to get that yet either!!

 

[Gooddeeds]

is there a way to make all threads open with the last post FIRST

i did it on old one it was much better than scrolling all over the place and you get the lastest info first

i have no idea yet if i know how to get back here so if you could PM me step by step (Click by click ) that would be awesome

at the same time i have not tried a pm yet so may not be able to get that yet either!!

Ditto to what you said above CARIIS

I’m having a hard time finding the newest post.

 

[KaaBoom]

Ditto to what you said above CARIIS

I’m having a hard time finding the newest post.

Look for the option: "Go to First Unread" next to the page numbers. Then read down from there in chronological order.

 

[Gooddeeds]

Look for the option: "Go to First Unread" next to the page numbers. Then read down from there in chronological order.

Thank you Kaa.

I don’t see that option here on the new site. My page numbers only have ‘previous or next’

 

[KaaBoom]

Thank you Kaa.

I don’t see that option here on the new site. My page numbers only have ‘previous or next’

If this helps any.

 

[Gooddeeds]

If this helps any.

Yep, but don’t have that at all. Everything else but that.

I didn’t have any issues with it before but I recall other posters on the previous site talking about it. Hopefully it will appear.

You are kind to stay the course, thank you!

 

[Tricia]

Listen to the latest Podcast with Doug Poppa
Documents Released Show Some of What Happened at Mandalay Bay Oct 1st 2017

 

[CARIIS]

If this helps any.

Yes that helps a ton it is visual it shows where it is TYTYTYTYTYTYTYTY!

 

[CARIIS]

Apparently several of us are not seeing that button go to first unread

 

[CoolJ]

Listen to the latest Podcast with Doug Poppa
Documents Released Show Some of What Happened at Mandalay Bay Oct 1st 2017

So let’s get this straight. An MBay armed security agent along with an LVMPD officer were waiting in the hallway while shooting was happening. They did nothing. Apparently they were waiting for the make shift SWAT team consisting of K9 officers to be the hero’s.

Meanwhile, the real SWAT team(all 40 of them were activated) are told to go to SCAC to come up with a game-plan. Apparently they were concerned of being ambushed.

Who was sent to investigate the multiple shooter/multiple location reports? There was a lot of reports....Was it SWAT?

MSM should be all over this. Why aren’t they reporting on the rolling release of these documents?