NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #4

[CoolJ]

I didn't say he was a patsy but I'm not going to attack another poster for wondering it. I think it's an elitist attitude to tell them they have to gobble up whatever the media spoonfeeds them.

Also, it should be noted that Paddock being a patsy doesn't exclude him from also being one of the shooters.

 

[Spice]

Not believing what we are told is NOT a conspiracy theory. GMAB

But not believing the facts that are currently in front of you IS exactly that.

 

[Spice]

Proof of what?? LE isn’t saying he didn’t haul up the weapons and ammo. He brought them up over the course of days, probably in inconspicuous luggage. It’s not like he walked thru the casino strapped with 20 semi autos across his body, swinging a rifle around his head like a lasso.

Thank you for this moment of levity.

 

[Spice]

Also, it should be noted that Paddock being a patsy doesn't exclude him from also being one of the shooters.

At this time, LE believes and has stated that they currently believe that there is only one shooter .

Multiple Times.

 

[CARIIS]

There is another angle to al lthis guys

If one person alone can really do all this

that is scary

 

[CARIIS]

To me a conspiracy is having alien lizards beam down and shoot then beam back up.

The way I see it, we just don't have all the information yet. So to wonder if someone is a lone shooter or patsy is not out of the realm of discussion what with the information and timeline changing. Not to mention the FBI guy breathing down the Sheriff's neck.

After all, There have been many books and documentaries on whether Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone shooter or patsy.

JMO.

I would not the FBI on my back !! There is something spooky about him to me !!

It will be interesting to see , if anyone shows up Friday who it will be .

I think the Sheriff should just take a week off -- he can be very rude

 

[SeesSeas]

Spice, Your signature says it all. . .
"All views are entitled to be aired. It is through vigorous and constructive debate that together we will chart the path ahead." --Nelson Mandela

Thank you for repeatedly emphasizing that "All views are entitled to be aired."

 

[CoolJ]

Elitist.

Okay....then.

You literally said he was a "Patsy" and then implied LE was lying, "LE rarely tells the truth in this investigations" and "where is the video?" and insinuated that 7 days in to an investigation we are being asked to "tow the line".

No that was me who said that. I actually think LVMPD wants to tell the truth but the Feds have muzzled them.

 

[Isabelle]

Also from your link..

Eric Paddock told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that he plans to put his brother's assets in a trust that would benefit the shooting victims.

So I guess the GF isnt executor of his estate.

Was this Eric's decision after a suit was filed by a victim's family asking courts to seize Steven's assets? I bet it was.

 

[fred&edna]

Roberts said the hotel dispatched its own armed security team to the 32nd floor, which arrived “right around the same time” as Las Vegas police, who officials have said arrived on the floor at 10:17 p.m. But the gunman had already fired his final shots out his hotel window at 10:15 p.m.

By the time police entered the room, Paddock had killed himself.

Las Vegas gunman shot security guard a full six minutes before opening fire on concertgoers, police reveal

Some police officers had already been inside the Mandalay Bay building responding to another, unrelated call when the attack happened, Roberts said.


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-las-vegas-guard-20171010-story.html

 

[CoolJ]

But not believing the facts that are currently in front of you IS exactly that.

You are making assumptions. You are assuming everything authorities are telling you are facts.

 

[bears10]

Was this Eric's decision after a suit was filed by a victim's family asking courts to seize Steven's assets? I bet it was.

No clue but I wouldn’t be surprised at all

 

[JLD333]

No that was me who said that. I actually think LVMPD wants to tell the truth but the Feds have muzzled them.

AKA you think the government is behind this? Geebus.



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[bears10]

No that was me who said that. I actually think LVMPD wants to tell the truth but the Feds have muzzled them.

It’s an active investigation so I don’t think it’d be surprising for the feds to tell the local LE to STFU. The local LE probably feels a lot more emotional and wants to share more with the public but the feds know that it’s not a good idea right now. Especially since every time they release new info they get accused of lying or previously hiding things from the public.

 

[CoolJ]

At this time, LE believes and has stated that they currently believe that there is only one shooter .

Multiple Times.

And I don't believe that. The dispatch audio, the eye witnesses, the numerous personal videos tell a different story. I am not just pulling this out of my rear end. I am basing it on evidence.

 

[bears10]

You are making assumptions. You are assuming everything authorities are telling you are facts.

And on the flip side, you’re assuming what they are telling you is untrue. Is it that hard to believe they are still learning new info themselves and new info will evolve that wasn’t known a week ago?

 

[Ambitioned]

Spice, Your signature says it all. . .
"All views are entitled to be aired. It is through vigorous and constructive debate that together we will chart the path ahead." --Nelson Mandela

Thank you for repeatedly emphasizing that "All views are entitled to be aired."

Vox Populi. The key to civil discourse is listening. Problem is, there are those who don't want to.

 

[fred&edna]

Attorney Richard A. Patterson, who has already filed legal papers to prevent the distribution of any of Paddock's assets on behalf of victim John Phippen's family, said the latest revelations of a six-minute delay between the shooting of Campos and the beginning of Paddock’s shooting rampage suggest “incompetence" on the part of Mandalay Bay.

AND...

Investigators also recovered survivalist equipment at Paddock’s home during searches.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-las-vegas-guard-20171010-story.html

 

[Spice]

Spice, Your signature says it all. . .
"All views are entitled to be aired, except Fake News and Conspiracy Theories,. It is through vigorous and constructive debate that together we will chart the path ahead." Spice

Thank you for repeatedly emphasizing that "All views are entitled to be aired, "

And I am am vigorously debating those views. You left that part out. But, you're welcome. Also, that signature was written before the scourge of Fake News and Conspiracy theories literally ate the minds of half of this country. I edited my siggy to be more relevant to the current state of our National Discourse.

 

[CoolJ]

AKA you think the government is behind this? Geebus.



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How you got that out of what I said I will never know. Holy cow.