NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #6

[CARIIS]

What is MB is covering up? It's not as if MB has attempted to conceal the fact the massacre occured from room 32125.

Lawsuits have already been filed. According to the allegations, the legal argument will become to what degree are hotels and resorts liable for the actions of any of their guests. If the lawsuits are successful, we can likely expect a far greater degree of scrutiny in the future including metal detectors, wands and everything else that has become standard in airports.

billions and billions and billions in bucks !

 

[CARIIS]

My guess is I would think MGM, the union or family hired the security guards at security guards home since it wasn't local police or FBI securing it
If the reports are true the Reno home was still to be searched by FBI and not released yet, someone in law enforcement dropped the ball.

yeh

wow no one (humm humm) is guarding the house of the biggest mass murderer in the history of the USA a couple days later

has anyone been fired ?

nah

 

[Deleted member 158085]

yeh

wow no one (humm humm) is guarding the house of the biggest mass murderer in the history of the USA a couple days later

has anyone been fired ?

nah

Link to MSM stating no one has been fired?
TIA.

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[Sillybilly]

I do -- check out what they look like from the 32nd floor -- they are cute tiny little things!!

Do you have a pic from the 32nd floor?

Google satellite is a lot higher than the Mandalay (on the left), and they can be seen quite clearly (upper right):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@36.0931583,-115.1717251,642m/data=!3m1!1e3

 

[Betty P]

Has anyone heard anything about a passion of going to shooting ranges -- to hit tiny tiny aviation gas tanks in the dark from far away dead in the center of the tank?

I would suppose if the tank was swiss cheesed that make a a bit of a sense

But i would think it would take quite a marksman to hit dead center on a tiny gas tank , in the dark , far away,

Dead. Center.

Dead Center.

Marksman ship for sure .

Just speculating-- like someone with military training possibly .

Only a possibility tho

Yes, they found used targets, etc. in his garage. He practiced ahead of time.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/shoote...two-days-before-las-vegas-massacre-1507405771

 

[CARIIS]

Against his family and probably his property too. There are undoubtedly people who think they have the right to examine his computer or journals, personal stuff. If it's being guarded even though he's not there they did the right thing. Richard Jewell wasn't the only prisoner in his home - he was living with his mother.

It is my understanding that

who ever lives in his house said we can't talk


they did not say they don't want to talk


there is a heap of difference --- only mo

Will try to find it for us .....

in a therapeutic setting how stuff is stated
, when you get good at it , is very helpful for the clt -- it reveals unaware belief systems thought feelings etc

words matter -- there is a lot of unconscious stuff in how we say things moo

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Do you have a pic from the 32nd floor?

Google satellite is a lot higher than the Mandalay (on the left), and they can be seen quite clearly (upper right):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@36.0931583,-115.1717251,642m/data=!3m1!1e3

Wow. Those are still good sized targets from that height. Thanks for the link.

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[CARIIS]

Yes, they found used targets, etc. in his garage. He practiced ahead of time.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/shoote...two-days-before-las-vegas-massacre-1507405771

Ty lucky me the site wont let me go there

its the story of my life ha

 

[bluesneakers]

It is my understanding that

who ever lives in his house said we can't talk


they did not say they don't want to talk


there is a heap of difference --- only mo

Will try to find it for us .....

in a therapeutic setting how stuff is stated
, when you get good at it , is very helpful for the clt -- it reveals unaware belief systems thought feelings etc

words matter -- there is a lot of unconscious stuff in how we say things moo

Who said this and who were they talking to? Who did they say told them they can't talk?

 

[Spice]

How can the notion that a 64 year dude with no military history committing the biggest mass shooting on his own be any less a conspiracy theory than folks pondering the possibility that more than one person did this ?

I remain lost

Many of us have provided all sorts of reasons why we think it might be more than one

can anyone who is so into the lone wolf theory explain how they got there..

Many of us have clearly outlined our doubt -- can some of you share your definitive conclusions

tia

CARIS,

Respectfully,

There is no One Shooter "Theory". This is what has been reported ad nauseam by LE. Therefore, it would be a fact of the case at this point, which was determined through evidence and not wild speculation, by the people with the evidence and resources in their possession.

Law Enforcement.

Further, many on this board, for weeks, have been providing counters to some of the wild and outrageous, and yes conspiratorial "speculations" about this case. And we have provided these counters with links to credible MSM , from left , right, and center, on the spectrum, as well as LE sources .

The difference appears to be this:

Respectfully CARIS, I took the time to comb through an extremely long post of yours. I asked for links where you made speculations and outright insinuations of conspiracy and coverup. From the government did it , to the patriot act, to bad people 'dressed in little yellow vests" being a part of it, to we only have one photo of SP, to the sheriff has only confirmed one fact in the entire investigation, to cameras, to multiple shooters and all sorts of conspiracy about an active coverup.

I answered the post in an effort to ask you questions and engage in what exactly is the thought process going into a conspiracy and coverup? I asked for elaboration and I asked for links in order to understand where you are coming from.

That post was ignored.

Yes, many have outlined your doubt, without links, (to the point that this thread was shut down by moderators for 24 hours) and while outright ignoring many questions that some have asked as they attempt repeatedly to converse and share our conclusions based on the evidence we have thus far.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

It is my understanding that

who ever lives in his house said we can't talk


they did not say they don't want to talk


there is a heap of difference --- only mo

Will try to find it for us .....

in a therapeutic setting how stuff is stated
, when you get good at it , is very helpful for the clt -- it reveals unaware belief systems thought feelings etc

words matter -- there is a lot of unconscious stuff in how we say things moo

Nope. That's an avoidance tactic many people use. For instance, I, a very independent woman, am fond of letting annoying and pushy people believe I "can't" make certain decisions without my husband's input because "can't" stops them in their tracks as opposed to "won't." Works with car dealers, insurance salesmen, and all kinds of door knockers.

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[CARIIS]

Do you have a pic from the 32nd floor?

Google satellite is a lot higher than the Mandalay (on the left), and they can be seen quite clearly (upper right):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@36.0931583,-115.1717251,642m/data=!3m1!1e3

It was a different one !!

Its one of those I dos and I donts --

I was blown away by how far away they were but it was like google walking man thing on a yt thing that cant post !!

really small and this was in daylight !!

its dead center on one of em - that is impressive !!

like totally dead center!!

A 64 year old in the dark ??

wow

I thought my god I bet there are some snipers, from navy seals or something -- that are jealous when I saw it

funny !!

 

[PrairieWind]

Has anyone heard anything about a passion of going to shooting ranges -- to hit tiny tiny aviation gas tanks in the dark from far away dead in the center of the tank?

I would suppose if the tank was swiss cheesed that make a a bit of a sense

But i would think it would take quite a marksman to hit dead center on a tiny gas tank , in the dark , far away,

Dead. Center.

Dead Center.

Marksman ship for sure .

Just speculating-- like someone with military training possibly .

Only a possibility tho

I think that actually would have been a fairly easy shot.

 

[flourish]

How can the notion that a 64 year dude with no military history committing the biggest mass shooting on his own be any less a conspiracy theory than folks pondering the possibility that more than one person did this ?

I remain lost

Many of us have provided all sorts of reasons why we think it might be more than one

can anyone who is so into the lone wolf theory explain how they got there..

Many of us have clearly outlined our doubt -- can some of you share your definitive conclusions

tia

What age does someone have to be to be believable as a single shooter? Ageism?!

 

[CoolJ]

Has anyone seen anything reported with regards to Homeland Security being involved in the immediate aftermath of this event?

 

[bears10]

It was a different one !!

Its one of those I dos and I donts --

I was blown away by how far away they were but it was like google walking man thing on a yt thing that cant post !!

really small and this was in daylight !!

its dead center on one of em - that is impressive !!

like totally dead center!!

I thought my god I bet there are some snipers, from navy seals or something -- that are jealous when I saw it

funny !!

I mean a mod posted a google earth link that clearly shows how big the tanks are, and you’re still choosing to take a YouTube video as gospel. Unbelievable.

 

[CARIIS]

Nope. That's an avoidance tactic many people use. For instance, I, a very independent woman, am fond of letting annoying and pushy people believe I "can't" make certain decisions without my husband's input because "can't" stops them in their tracks as opposed to "won't." Works with car dealers, insurance salesmen, and all kinds of door knockers.

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Context my dear context

yours example perfect

this example is like a freudian slip !!

context !!

 

[everybodhi]

I have a friend whose wife has worked security at MGM for 12 years, she says there are no cameras in the hallways for guest privacy reasons. Imagine if a wealthy businessman or celebrity decided to spend the evening with a call girl and he was caught on camera and some $20 per hour monitor saw it - leaves the guest open to blackmail or detrimental front page headlines. Cameras are in garages, elevators, and casino common areas, but not private room hallways.

Again, just what I am told, not first hand knowledge.

Like Ray Rice, he knocked his wife out in the elevator and then drug her down the hall to his room, all on hotel security camera.
That was an Atlantic City casino, though.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Context my dear context

yours example perfect

this example is like a freudian slip !!

context !!

You don't know that. And this is the perfect context that I would use that in. If the media was annoying me I would hope that a firm "I can't" might get rid of some of them.

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[CARIIS]

I mean a mod posted a google earth link that clearly shows how big the tanks are, and you’re still choosing to take a YouTube video as gospel. Unbelievable.

it was not a Yt video it was a yt video of that little yellow guy at street level where you could see it from the ground not above !!

in the daylight !!

they were cute -- you should some of the fuel farms at the big airports !!

amazing

but we are not allowed to leave out of this Janet Air ....

imo its huge in this mess

moo