Deceased/Not Found NY - Etan Patz, 6, New York, 25 May 1979 #2 *P. Hernandez guilty*

[epiphany]

Michael Herzenberg @MHerzenberg · 57m 57 minutes ago

Jury #EtanPatz case wants @ManhattanDA ADA testimony read back after lunch. He decided not to immediately tape #pedrohernandez questioning


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[epiphany]

Jessica Schneider @JSchneiderTV · 10m 10 minutes ago

Hernandez walks into courtroom; after officer removes handcuffs, he turns and waves to his wife & daughter. Second time I've seen him smile.


Jessica Schneider @JSchneiderTV · 16m 16 minutes ago

Read Back Request #EtanPatz jury: they want to hear the testimony of former ADA Armand Durastanti - he questioned Hernandez between 2am-7am.


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Michael Herzenberg @MHerzenberg · 5m 5 minutes ago

Jury in #EtanPatz case wants Judge's understanding of "law regarding video taping interviews of persons of interest" #pedrohernandez


Michael Herzenberg @MHerzenberg · 11m 11 minutes ago

Accused #EtanPatz murderer #pedrohernandez smiled 4 1st time I've seen in trial started Jan. He said "Becky" & waved to daughter


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[epiphany]

Jessica Schneider @JSchneiderTV · 10m 10 minutes ago

Read-back of ADA Durastanti: he said he arrived at Camden Co pros offc at 1030am & they weren't recording initial interview. He agreed.


Jessica Schneider @JSchneiderTV · 17m 17 minutes ago

Jurors walk into room. Defense Attorney Harvey Fishbein attempts to make eye contact with all 12 of them. The stakes are mounting.


Jessica Schneider @JSchneiderTV · 24m 24 minutes ago

Wow. #EtanPatz jurors getting down & dirty in legalese of this case. Want to know if it's legally required to tape all PD interviews in NJ.


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[gregjrichards]

Thanks for your posts epiphany I really appreciate it.

 

[epiphany]

Jessica Schneider ‏@JSchneiderTV 54s54 seconds ago

Jurors will wrap day #3 of deliberations with NO VERDICT. Called back to court now where they'll be excused until Monday AM. #EtanPatz


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[gregjrichards]

Jessica Schneider ‏@JSchneiderTV 54s54 seconds ago

Jurors will wrap day #3 of deliberations with NO VERDICT. Called back to court now where they'll be excused until Monday AM. #EtanPatz


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Thanks for this update. I am not optimistic that the jury will be able to reach a verdict. This is a very difficult case I am glad I'm not on it.

 

[Wondergirl]

Thanks for this update. I am not optimistic that the jury will be able to reach a verdict. This is a very difficult case I am glad I'm not on it.

I agree. I do think he's guilty though.

 

[gregjrichards]

Fourth day of jury deliberations - no verdict jury gone home for day

"The jury in the trial of the man accused of killing 6-year-old Etan Patz nearly 36 years ago is deliberating for a fourth day Monday.

Jurors received the case against 54-year-old Pedro Hernandez on Wednesday afternoon.

The jury on Monday asked for a weather report from May 25, 1979, the day Etan went missing; all phone records between Hernandez and his brother-in-law, Juan Santana, who turned him in to police; a blueprint of 113 Thompson St., where Etan’s body was allegedly dumped; and translated transcripts of phone conversations at Rikers Island between Hernandez and his current wife, Rosemary."

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/04/20/etan-patz-jury-resumes-deliberations/

 

[gregjrichards]

Fifth day of deliberations update Tuesday 21st April 2015

"The jury in the Etan Patz murder trial has requested more evidence and instructions during the fifth day of deliberations Tuesday.

Jurors have asked requested clarification of the terms “corroboration,” “circumstantial evidence” and “hearsay.”

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/04...y-of-deliberations-in-etan-patz-murder-trial/

Further updates

**NO VERDICT DAY ON DAY 5**

Steven Bognar ‏@Bogs4NY 2m2 minutes ago

JUST IN: No verdict in #EtanPatz murder trial -- @andrewsiff4NY says deliberations to resume tomorrow #nbc4ny

Jessica Schneider ‏@JSchneiderTV 9m9 minutes ago

Jurors still deliberating now at HOUR 6.5 today. Day #5 coming to a close soon though, if no verdict. #EtanPatz

Andrew Siff ‏@andrewsiff4NY 2m2 minutes ago

#jury has gone back into #deliberations after an hour of readback testimony. #EtanPatz #pedrohernandez #nbc4ny

Andrew Siff ‏@andrewsiff4NY 2m2 minutes ago

10 of the 12 jurors are taking notes while listening to readback testimony in #etanpatz case #nbc4ny

Jessica Schneider ‏@JSchneiderTV 2m2 minutes ago

Dr Robotti: “He was squirming…and he was praying...he was holding a rosary in his hands and he was praying to God to forgive him.” #EtanPatz

Jessica Schneider ‏@JSchneiderTV 4m4 minutes ago

Dr. Robotti, psychiatrist: "Without any prompting at all [defendant] told me the whole story….in his own words, I hurt a child." #EtanPatz

Jessica Schneider ‏@JSchneiderTV 14m14 minutes ago

Cross-exam read-back of defense expert Dr First is NOT GOOD for defense case; First says Hernandez confessed to him June 1, 2012. #EtanPatz

Irene Plagianos ‏@IrenePlagianos 20m20 minutes ago

#EtanPatz jury wants dueling testimony read back: defense Dr. who said Hernandez is mentally ill, pros. Dr. who said he confessed to her

Source: Twitter - Time Fleischer - Multi Media Journalist for WABC-TV, Eyewitness News.

Tim Fleischer ‏@TimFleischer7 3h3 hours ago

Judge 2 Jury: Can't convict on confession alone Need other proof of crime #EtanPatz #abc7ny

Tim Fleischer ‏@TimFleischer7 33m33 minutes ago

Jury hears Drs First & Ribotti testimony re-read #EtanPatz Murder Trial #abc7ny

 

[cvillemegan]

If they can't convict on confession alone, what else is there?

 

[Cappuccino]

If they can't convict on confession alone, what else is there?

Nothing, as far as I can see. I'm surprised the jury didn't acquit in one day, but alot of people rate confessions far too highly as evidence.

 

[ontheclock]

What a strange case. I feel so sorry for Etan's family. I wonder if their thoughts are conflicted.

 

[epiphany]

What a strange case. I feel so sorry for Etan's family. I wonder if their thoughts are conflicted.

I asked her if the Patz family believes that Hernandez and not the long-suspected Jose Ramos — boyfriend of Etan Patz’s baby-sitter and a convicted pedophile already doing life for unrelated crimes — is the monster who murdered Etan Patz.

“You’ll have to ask the Patz family that,” she [Joan Illuzzi-Orbon, lead Manhattan prosecutor] says. “I do know they are hoping for a conviction in this trial.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...-deliberates-etan-patz-case-article-1.2190354

 

[Indy Anna]

Interesting that Etan's family are hoping for the conviction of Hernandez. I'm really not sure what to think. Hernandez confessed to Etan's murder not just once, but multiple times through the years. Is that pattern typical for people who give false confessions? Most whom I have heard of, including those who are convicted based on their own confession, immediately begin proclaiming their innocence. Perhaps if Hernandez had been tried and convicted after his initial confession, he would be proclaiming his innocence to the present. IDK.

On the other hand, the evidence against Ramos is very compelling.

If Hernandez is truly innocent, he must have some very deep-seated feelings of guilt that have defied psychological intervention. Where has that guilt stemmed from? An overwhelming sense of guilt is associated with depression and OCD, but do these psychological conditions ever bring about false confessions to a murder?

 

[ontheclock]

I don't know what to think. It's just bizarre. The Ramos connection is there, but Hernandez's confessions throw me off base. I wish I had a deeper understanding of his psycho-related illness.

 

[gregjrichards]

Day six of deliberations Wednesday 22nd of April 2015

Latest news

"NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — The jury in the trial of the man accused of killing Etan Patz resumed deliberations Wednesday.
Jurors asked for a list of all those who testified over the course of the 10-week trial, CBS2’s Jessica Schneider reported."

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/04/22/etan-patz-trial-deliberations-day-6/

News from start of day 6


"Jury deliberations in the Etan Patz murder trial are now in its sixth day inside a Manhattan court.

The panel made another request yesterday, asking for read backs of the confessions made by Pedro Hernandez.

Although he admitted several times to killing the six-year-old boy in 1979, Hernandez's lawyers say his low IQ made him an easy target for a false confession.

The defense says they're not worried about the jury's request.

"They're taking it step by step. There's nothing that they've asked, nor do they seem to be at odds with each other. This jury is intent, they're all taking notes when they come out, they're listening to what the judge has to say or the testimony that's being read back. I think they're working their way through the evidence. What that all means I can't tell you but I don't see a divided jury at this point," said Defense Attorney Harvey Fishbein."

http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs...-deliberations-in-etan-patz-murder-trial.html

 

[dotr]

"Jurors will decide whether Hernandez is guilty or not on three separate charges: second-degree murder, felony murder and kidnapping.

The two different murder charges result from different theories under the law. If the jury finds that Hernandez deliberately killed Etan, they will convict him on second-degree murder charges.

If the panel decides Etan’s death resulted from actions during the course of a kidnapping, they will find him guilty on the felony murder charge.

Each of the three charges is punishable by 25 years to life in prison"

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/04/22/etan-patz-trial-deliberations-day-6/

 

[gregjrichards]

Day six of deliberations - latest news update

"NEW YORK (AP) - A New York jury deliberating in the murder trial of a man accused of kidnapping and killing 6-year-old Etan Patz (AY’-tahn payts) in 1979 has asked to hear the testimony of the boy’s best friend.

Chelsea Altman was waiting for Etan on the day he disappeared, but he never showed. His body was never found.

Pedro Hernandez says he choked Etan in a convenience store basement after luring him there with the promise of a soda."

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...timony-from-etan-patzs-best-fr/#ixzz3Y4BKRMhO

 

[epiphany]

Michael Herzenberg @MHerzenberg · 5m 5 minutes ago

"Twelve Angry Men" this jury is not ... lists & spreadsheets from a clearly deliberative deliberation by #EtanPatz juryMichael Herzenberg @MHerzenberg · 2h 2 hours ago

It might be a 1st, certainly unusual - Jury in #EtanPatz wants computer to make excel spreadsheet deliberating guilt #pedrohernandez

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Andrew Siff @andrewsiff4NY · 14m 14 minutes ago

Could a #spreadsheet help the #jury decide? They are making one. #NBC4NY

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[epiphany]

Michael Herzenberg ‏@MHerzenberg 7m7 minutes ago

Jury #EtanPatz asks read-back of Ret. USADA Stuart GraBois & former FBI Mary Galligan / about invest. into JoseRamos


Michael Herzenberg ‏@MHerzenberg 5m5 minutes ago

Former Feds GraBois & Galligan represent bulk JoseRamos theory.Long afternoon reading testimony/verdict #etanpatz NOT possible today

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