NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #5

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Dang, the AC hotel is only $15 a night. Guess they all paid in cash, no security cameras around there, nothing. :(

As far as the live chat, I tried to get a few questions in, none were posted. Perhaps the ones that were not posted can be used by the reporter to ask questions (that people want to know), and maybe get some answers?
 
Sistah,

NG really said that on air?! You may be right, she may have a "source". (Now I wish I had cable so I could watch it.) Wonder if her source is local or higher up? At any rate, that one has not been in the media except for her. Hmmm... Verrrry interesting!
 
Cancan said:
I'm ruling out the driver, as he was so cooperative from the get go.

I'm impressed JB allowed them to search his house without a warrant. He must really have nothing to hide. Perhaps he liked SG and genuinely wanted to help.

I always figured "party" in this sense meant "a couple of people hooking up just for drugs and sex." Not the standard meaning of party.

Perhaps Shannan didn't want to leave the house because she wanted to stay longer - earn more money? Especially if she charged by the hour. Going from Jersey City to Oak Beach (Verrazano and Belt Parkway? ugh, the worst) takes a while, even at 2:00 a.m., plus she had to cut the driver in for probably a couple hundred. Maybe she wanted to stay longer to drive up the bill so she would get her money's worth for the late hour and travel time.

I still believe Shannan was not a victim of a serial killer, but ended up in the water accidentally. I also think the bodies found recently are not related to the burlap 4. I think this is a dumping ground used by multiple killers.
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You know why JB allowed the search? Because it was 7 months after Shannon went misssing. He got rid of evidence in that time. If he or his friends are not the killers I would be very surprised. The fact remains that 4 CL escorts of same race and body type were found strangled and dumped near this man's house. A 4th CL escort remains missing and was last seen running from his house. He was also seen by his neighbors in the middle of the night filling a Uhaul van with one tiny light...I think they had some LARGE pieces of evidence they had to get rid of. Sofas? Rolled up carpet? Recording equipment? I would love to know if there is anyway an Internet Service Provider can give LE the data packets sent from a specific account. I think this guy is into *advertiser censored*--live stream type stuff. Just a hunch
 
minazoe said:
ok, sure...I think for me I want to talk about Shannan as she relates to this story, now...I understand that we don't know that she is in fact a part of this story...but she is, in that her plight led us to this graveyard.
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Clearly I'm outvoted. But I don't know where to take the discussion of the other missing people. It's simply not possible to conduct the conversation here threaded through all the other stuff.
 
Sistah Sleuth said:
Okay, last week Nancy Grace spent a considerable amount of time during her show exploring the concept of the sk de-fleshing the bodies and then dumping them. It appeared to me that she was just pulling stuff out of her behind just to fill up air time.'s

I had elaborated on the ME's theory that the sk was holding onto the bodies before dumping them because the rate of decomposition does not coincide with the remains. This led me to believe that he was freezing them so that what was found were bodies with more flesh attached than it should have been given the amount of time it was exposed to the elements.

You know what? Maybe Nancy wasn't pulling stuff out of her butt! It occured to me that some or all of the bodies found wrapped in burlap were either skeletonized or near skeletonization which will lend credence to what Nancy was stating.

For instance, lets say the last victim who was seen alive last September was found skeletonized. Well, it's been quite cold in NY and there is no way that victim should be a complete skeleton or near skeletonization by December 10th. That means that the body had been de-fleshed prior to dumping.

Rita Cosby has been on the scene and hanging tough with Nancy lately. I like Rita and I can easily see her gleening inside information from somebody very close to the investigation. I've come to the conclusion that Nancy knows what she is talking about and was divulging information in a way of discussion without stating it as fact so as not to ruin a relationship with a particular source.
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I partly agree with you. I do think she does get inside stuff and some stuff is fact and cant be stated as such.

The problem was Nancy was spiiting out information that was just not true and she does it often. JMO
 
21merc7 said:
Sistah,

NG really said that on air?! You may be right, she may have a "source". (Now I wish I had cable so I could watch it.) Wonder if her source is local or higher up? At any rate, that one has not been in the media except for her. Hmmm... Verrrry interesting!
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Yes, she and one of her guests delved into that conversation as if it wasn't even a theory but fact! As I was watching and listening I was thinking, "Is this some new information that I haven't heard...?" I was on this very board looking for links after the show to see if what they were discussing was confirmed and found nothing. I was teetering between why would Nancy go on and on about something like that when it's not credible information and there must be something to this information if she is exhausting precious air-time to discuss it. My mind was trapped with the freezing body theory until I thought about Nancy and explored the other end of the spectrum to the theory.
 
Anyone from Oak Beach area go to AC on gambling trips, maybe take the drifter with?

That driver seemed to like Blackjack a lot.
 
Lera213 said:
Watching the video below. what do we know is that our first gut instinct is usually the right one. I'm inclined to go on this witness first gut instinct. What say you?


http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/14/...ex.html?hpt=T2

Body Hunt Expanded: With Video (Interview with Gus Coletti who saw Shannon)
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He seems credible to me. He knew something was very wrong going on. He knew it had to do with the guy in the car. He waited on the deck, he went to open the gate for the police, he confronted the guy (okay, not a good idea, but he did it).

He also let the news team in his house, for what could have been hours, to arrange this video. You can tell they were there for while, especially from the snipped in part of him picking up the phone.
 
Sistah Sleuth said:
My mind was trapped with the freezing body theory until I thought about Nancy and explored the other end of the spectrum to the theory.
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You're right, the de-fleshing sure would account for the lack of decomp. smell. That and then the bones being frozen in the cold?
 
**GRUESOME ALERT** Tried to keep it simple, but, skip over if needed.

The problem in my mind with de-fleshing, true or not, is if the skeletons were whole. I can see dismembering, boiling, and so on, to remove the flesh and tissue. But how could you do that to an entire body? If just the muscle and stuff were left, the smell would still be there and a lot of animal activity, not just animals chewing bones or carrying bits off.

Were most skeletons complete?
 
Will someone please clarify what kind of vehicle the driver was in when he went past Coletti's. Even JVM last night kept saying: when the jeep went by...
 
Didnt LE said they had evidence the bodies were stored in the same place before being dumped?



I do not know for sure but I think they were most likey all dismembered and then wrapped in burlap. Bodies dismember without being taken apart.
 
Have the police made a thorough enough search of the neighborhood? I know they searched around the guy's house. But have the searched the water and that big chunk of woods to the east of the gate?

If SG was on a 911 call, by the way, it would have been nearly impossible for her to hide. The phone would have given off light, and the stalker could have heard talking even if she didn't have it on speaker phone.

I'd be interested in seeing the texts sent by the driver and in any calls made by the boyfriend, who says he thought she left him.

I'm confused by two things.

1. Someone is talking about the boyfriend going along with the driver or something to that effect...explain.

2. What happened to the drifter? We haven't heard another word. Can someone link the original story where we heard about this guy? If the drifter made a call to his mother, LE should be able to establish call location. If he used a burner, that would be telling, too.
 
fashionella said:
I hope law enforcement goes over this site with a fine toothed comb


http://www.nationalblacklist.com/regionTriState.aspx
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Wow! Just Wow! Looking at that was terrifying. I tried to click one, but you have to put in an email and so forth. (I hope no one ever needs to check out this computer, lol.) The things that people go through to earn some money. It is scary and makes you want to cry.

Maybe you could forward that infor to LE or FBI. I would think they know about it though.
 
21merc7 said:
Wow! Just Wow! Looking at that was terrifying. I tried to click one, but you have to put in an email and so forth. (I hope no one ever needs to check out this computer, lol.) The things that people go through to earn some money. It is scary and makes you want to cry.

Maybe you could forward that infor to LE or FBI. I would think they know about it though.
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I'm hoping someone here will register and post what they find, I'd have a hard time explaining that one on my bank statement. I assume LE knows about this, but good god, excellent revenge--talk about a bad Google Image.
 
I believe the NY Post was the original news source regarding the drifter.
 
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