Jade.......
I am interested in debating it. I posted some questions earlier in this thread but so far haven't really heard anyone else's thoughts on these points:
1. Doan's supporters are now pointing to Messer, suggesting he acted without Doan. A lot of folks have claimed (on Vincent Doan's website) that Carrie overdosed at Messer's house, and "they" got scared and buried her. Who are "they"? Did "they" not realize that far more trouble would come upon them for gross abuse of a corpse, obstruction of justice, etc.,etc., than for getting high at a party? Any drugs or illegal paraphernalia could easily have been gotten rid of before calling the police/ambulance. Easier than getting rid of a body. Oh, sorry....A body AND a car. Right. People O.D. all the time, but that doesn't mean that everyone in the immediate vicinity is automatically sent up for murder. So I don't buy this "they got scared" theory.....obviously, there is more to this story than any accidental overdose. Also, how were "they" so sure she was dead and not passed out? Were they medics? Did they try to revive her (while NOT calling 911)? If someone accidentally overdosed at your house, would you bury them in your backyard? And expect not to be found out? This is a ridiculous theory.
2. Who built the barn? Actually constructed it? Was it built after her disappearance, or was it just the lean-to that was built after her disappearance? I am confused about this....
3. So now the folks on Doan's site are posting that of course Carrie was at Messer's....this is where she went to pick up her drugs. This conflicts with the previous claim that "Vincent and his father went to look for her at Christopher's bar in Hillsboro, because this is where Carrie got her drugs".......Messer's barn is a long way from Christopher's bar in Hillsboro.
4. Purely speculation here......but, I have been around the old block a few times, so to speak. If anyone had a drug habit here, it wasn't the Culberson girl. She:
- was gainfully employed.
- was apparently attending a community college (I know a professor at Clermont who mentioned that Carrie was in her class, so I know this is true).
- (judging by her pictures) always looked healthy, neat, CLEAN, and well-put together.
- was involved in sports (played on a volleyball team). As a general rule, people who are heavily into the drug scene do not get involved in sports. Trust me on this; I've been there and I know.
- had goals in life.
5. A 22 year old girl whose family, job, friends, & boyfriend are all in the immediate area, where she has lived all her life, does not just take off and move to another state over her lunch hour, never to be seen or heard from again. Also, how would she have supported herself without being able to use her car (which eventually would have been seen) and without any money? (The court transcript says that her bank account remained untouched). This theory is even more ridiculous than the overdose theory.
6. What does Mr. Doan have to say about the recent events? People in prison still have internet access. Why doesn't he post on his website?
Also, assuming that Doan is guilty, how/why is Messer involved? Some say that he is a known dealer. He does appear to have a string of arrests....Were Doan and Messer involved in a ring (drug ring, stolen property, etc.), and possibly together (Carrie there as well) that night? Maybe there was an accident (car accident?) and these guys didn't want to let anyone know because of warrants, what they might have had with them, etc........who knows. There are plenty of back country roads around here where something could happen without attracting a lot of immediate attention (especially late at night)... If Doan had the temper/violent tendencies that he appears to have had, I have no trouble believing that he killed her (without meaning to)....But I do have some trouble with the claim that he cut her up.....I would think that he would be way too emotionally distraught to carry out something that cold & calculating. Of course, there is the possibility that he allowed his brother & the Messer guy to dispose of her body while he got rid of the car.....I read somewhere that he borrowed his dad's tow truck that night? From the timeline of events, it doesn't seem that Vincent and Tracy were gone from Tracy's house for a real long time.....so whatever they did, they would had to have done it pretty quickly (and obviously thoroughly)....so I think it is reasonable to theorize that Messer might have helped them. The strange part is WHY....I read that they were acquaintances....maybe they were actually close friends, maybe not. Maybe Messer owed Doan a favor.
At present, this part of the state is saturated with methamphetamine and makeshift labs. I don't know if it was in 1996. I don't know if that is even relevant, but it seems to play a role in many criminal cases in this area.
Any thoughts?