Found Deceased OH - Cheryl Coker, 46, Riverside, 2 Oct 2018

[wyome]

It had to be very hard, thinking he could be responsible for Cheryl’s demise, you can’t be the only one that shops Costco and have the hair on the back of your neck standup, that’s why I refuse to be a member of a Costco until justice is served, and Shame-on Costco for keeping him on the payroll, they could have fired him over two issues very easy, but I guess his feelings come first before friends of Cheryl like you.

I get where your heart is, but this is not a Costco issue. They deserve no shame for this.

Costco's an extremely liberal company. Take that how you want to interpret that. Bottom line, they will go to the extremes to their employee's benefit and/or not to get sued. I've said before that it takes mountains of little write ups, years thick, for them to actually get the okay from corporate to fire you. Short of, say, you're caught stealing...you'll get escorted out immediately regardless of a spotless record.

I am sure that police have asked that Costco keep him there without major reprimand. Nobody wants Bill to have too much time on his hands. Better stay at work where things are predictable and he feels comfortable. I'm sure he's had his fair share of write-ups, and the forklift mishap (if there was one) was another sheet in his *advertiser censored* pile lol. Believe me, every manager in that company is aware and then some. And they are cooperating BIG TIME.

 

[tooltimetim]

His lying about the forklift incident, referring to his son as nephew, these are two majors right here, plus Costco is large enough that if they did terminate him they could tie any law suits in courts for years, long after he’s hopefully indicted
And I feel very strongly, that it is a slap in the faces of Cheryl’s friends who come to Costco, I know of others including myself that refuse to get membership or even a day pass while he’s allowed to wander the store.
And it puts the managers in a odd place, that’s why I think the police would not dictate whether he’s employed or not...

 

[Steelslady]

His lying about the forklift incident, referring to his son as nephew, these are two majors right here, plus Costco is large enough that if they did terminate him they could tie any law suits in courts for years, long after he’s hopefully indicted
And I feel very strongly, that it is a slap in the faces of Cheryl’s friends who come to Costco, I know of others including myself that refuse to get membership or even a day pass while he’s allowed to wander the store.
And it puts the managers in a odd place, that’s why I think the police would not dictate whether he’s employed or not...

I understand where you are coming from, but you have to look at this from a legal point of view.

He has not been arrested for any crime, nor has there so far been any evidence that LE has confirmed that a crime was committed.

He, along with his daughter, has to eat, have a roof over their heads, he has bills to pay.

There is a chance that he did not harm Cheryl. He is considered a POI, but not yet arrested.

Why would Cotsco fire him? On what grounds? What if, he really is innocent in this in terms of harming Cheryl- you want a man's livelihood taken away for that, which is illegal at this point. Innocent until proven guilty.

I am sure that if he is arrested and charged for harming Cheryl, then you will hear a statement of support for Cheryl and her family and friends, and they will probably donate something as a show of support. For now, though, they can't fire him because we all want an answer to her disappearance.

What happens if in a month or so, Cheryl walks through the door, safe and unharmed?

 

[tooltimetim]

I did some research on Costco’s employee policies, and yes Costco could have fired him over the so-called forklift incident, once a accident occurs company policy is automatic drug test, first, then mountains of paperwork that has to be completed within 24 hours of injury, so by him telling police he injuried himself on the job but did not report it was grounds for termination , Companies take workplace injuries very seriously
And the statement mentioned in previous threads about his son working there and referring as a nephew goes against policy, they will not hire immediate family members at the same store , so lie number two.
How many other individuals who have worked for Costco have been rejected or terminated for similar or less.
So His status of POI, or not would not be reason for termination, the above lies or fraud would.

 

[wyome]

I did some research on Costco’s employee policies, and yes Costco could have fired him over the so-called forklift incident, once a accident occurs company policy is automatic drug test, first, then mountains of paperwork that has to be completed within 24 hours of injury, so by him telling police he injuried himself on the job but did not report it was grounds for termination , Companies take workplace injuries very seriously
And the statement mentioned in previous threads about his son working there and referring as a nephew goes against policy, they will not hire immediate family members at the same store , so lie number two.
How many other individuals who have worked for Costco have been rejected or terminated for similar or less.
So His status of POI, or not would not be reason for termination, the above lies or fraud would.

I understand your frustration! But we don't know what he reported specifically as a forklift injury. Operating it? Got hurt checking steel? Spotting a forklift operator? We can only speculate.

Costco's got LE's back on this one for sure. Mark my words they're cooperating and then some.

Steelslady's post above is brilliant. He's innocent until proven otherwise. So the clock's ticking.

 

[tooltimetim]

Wyome, you are correct steelslady post is correct, it is extremely frustrating, I know he’s a POI, but I feel the clock stopped ticking, , I feel unless some miracle new evidence appears justice will never be served, I like steelslady last paragraph, in post #644, stating what if Cheryl walks through the door in a month or so, we can all agree sees not on a Caribbean cruise ,
Question, for the sleuths who have been watching cases for a long time, is the time frame in Cheryl’s case pretty normal or do missing persons cases where the spouse is identified as POI take years to solve, or is the justice system afraid to proceed without a “body” , basically how many cases are solved without a “body” being found.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Wyome, you are correct steelslady post is correct, it is extremely frustrating, I know he’s a POI, but I feel the clock stopped ticking, , I feel unless some miracle new evidence appears justice will never be served, I like steelslady last paragraph, in post #644, stating what if Cheryl walks through the door in a month or so, we can all agree sees not on a Caribbean cruise ,
Question, for the sleuths who have been watching cases for a long time, is the time frame in Cheryl’s case pretty normal or do missing persons cases where the spouse is identified as POI take years to solve, or is the justice system afraid to proceed without a “body” , basically how many cases are solved without a “body” being found.

Since the early 1800s there have been only around 400 no body murder trials. So it is rather rare. In Wisconsin we have prosecutors going forward in the Krista Sypher case where not only do they not have a body but not so much as a drop of blood or other evidence such as organ tissues that shouldn't be outside the body. In Anna Maciejewska's case there is no body and a POI named but prosecutors have not laid any charges and that is going on two years now.

Even in the case of getting a plea rather than a trial the defendant is holding a lot of cards to play and often they can get manslaughter rather than murder charges and a sentencing that is the 15 year range with parole eligibility earlier.

This case with Cheryl could be days, weeks, months, years, decades, or never. Much depends on what kind of evidence law enforcement has. Plus, since law enforcement has said that both Cheryl and William had been involved with others outside the marriage we don't know whether Cheryl had been involved with someone (or possibly the significant other of that someone) that also may have a motive.

 

[GraceG]

Since the early 1800s there have been only around 400 no body murder trials. So it is rather rare. In Wisconsin we have prosecutors going forward in the Krista Sypher case where not only do they not have a body but not so much as a drop of blood or other evidence such as organ tissues that shouldn't be outside the body. In Anna Maciejewska's case there is no body and a POI named but prosecutors have not laid any charges and that is going on two years now.

Even in the case of getting a plea rather than a trial the defendant is holding a lot of cards to play and often they can get manslaughter rather than murder charges and a sentencing that is the 15 year range with parole eligibility earlier.

This case with Cheryl could be days, weeks, months, years, decades, or never. Much depends on what kind of evidence law enforcement has. Plus, since law enforcement has said that both Cheryl and William had been involved with others outside the marriage we don't know whether Cheryl had been involved with someone (or possibly the significant other of that someone) that also may have a motive.

Excellent summary Jethro4WS! This brought to mind another missing body case, from a Continental airline pilot that put his wife through a woodchipper. They never found her body, and he was convicted. That was the talk of the pilot lounge for quite a while. Pilot Convicted of Killing Wife In Wood-Chipper Murder Trial

 

[Jmoose]

Excellent summary Jethro4WS! This brought to mind another missing body case, from a Continental airline pilot that put his wife through a woodchipper. They never found her body, and he was convicted. That was the talk of the pilot lounge for quite a while. Pilot Convicted of Killing Wife In Wood-Chipper Murder Trial

They didn’t find the body, but they found a tooth at the riverside. And the husband left a paper trail after renting the chipper, and I believe he may have been observed using it near the river where her tooth was found. He made it kind of easy...

 

[Jethro4WS]

Excellent summary Jethro4WS! This brought to mind another missing body case, from a Continental airline pilot that put his wife through a woodchipper. They never found her body, and he was convicted. That was the talk of the pilot lounge for quite a while. Pilot Convicted of Killing Wife In Wood-Chipper Murder Trial

Yeah, these cases are interesting in that 88 percent of them result in convictions if they get before a jury.

That wood chipper case really made a splash in the news back then.

 

[Steelslady]

Excellent summary Jethro4WS! This brought to mind another missing body case, from a Continental airline pilot that put his wife through a woodchipper. They never found her body, and he was convicted. That was the talk of the pilot lounge for quite a while. Pilot Convicted of Killing Wife In Wood-Chipper Murder Trial

That is just so sick and beyond cruel. It is horrifying, how these murderers sleep at night, professing their innocence.

 

[Steelslady]

Wyome, you are correct steelslady post is correct, it is extremely frustrating, I know he’s a POI, but I feel the clock stopped ticking, , I feel unless some miracle new evidence appears justice will never be served, I like steelslady last paragraph, in post #644, stating what if Cheryl walks through the door in a month or so, we can all agree sees not on a Caribbean cruise ,
Question, for the sleuths who have been watching cases for a long time, is the time frame in Cheryl’s case pretty normal or do missing persons cases where the spouse is identified as POI take years to solve, or is the justice system afraid to proceed without a “body” , basically how many cases are solved without a “body” being found.

Please know, I do believe something awful happened to her.

Yet, the who, how, and why has yet to be determined by LE. We can all sit her and speculate until the cows come home, but at the end of the day, we have no answers. No one saw Cheryl physically after her daughter was dropped off at school that morning. No one heard from her- call or text, after she dropped her daughter off that day. No sign of her anywhere. I am sure we can deduce from that that she did not leave of her own free will, that something awful happened to her.

Of course, the one video they had of her car pulling into the parking lot just so happened to cut out, just as whoever was driving opened the door- so they don't know who was driving. I am hoping that the other video that they have shows who the driver is. It is frustrating to not know what, if any, evidence LE has about her disappearance.

We also don't know if someone else was involved in her disappearance. We have one POI, and nothing more than that.

So frustrating, and I can't imagine how her family feels, especially her daughters.

 

[tooltimetim]

This is a very frustrating case, we all know that the police have interviewed multiple times individuals in October, and any forensics taken from the home or vehicles has long come back, so unless the “smoking gun” walks into the detectives office I highly doubt this case will ever be solved, I feel bad for Cheryl’s mom, Barb, and her daughters,
The most disappointing evidence was the security camera by Clancy’s that only showed the vehicle entering, then frozen in time, if it was William or someone else driving that vehicle what a stoke of dumb luck for them.
Does anyone know the day her vehicle entered Kroger parking lot , I don’t remember the police asking the publics help if you were in the parking lot that morning, to call them for a statement ,I shop at that Kroger frequently and I will sit in my car or just invision that fateful day,
There is always people in that parking lot someone saw something

 

[tooltimetim]

The other thing I thought of on the day Cheryl’s vehicle was captured on the cameras at a Clancy’s , does anyone know remember what the weather was that day, if a clear day , the local police could have asked the FBI , with GPS coordinates for that parking lot and a time frame, check if there was satellite coverage during that time frame, if available the footage could have filled in the details of who exited the vehicle , remember today’s satellites could read a newspaper from space,

 

[tooltimetim]

And it happening the govt uses satellites thru the Sirius, google and other unmentioned space sources to track you visually, by your cars on board computer (on star) your phone either by voice or tracking, so if the weather was favorable they could have obtained a decent image of and individual and which way they departed the parking lot after abandoning car
Plus I find that the camera at outside Clancy’s not working properly, bothersome, it catches the suv comes in (motion) why did it not pick up the motion of people , I am going through to be sarcastic here and wonder does the guy who owns the cameras a friend of bill and deleted or edited a portion, this case hinges on this one part the parking lot, look at the footage , it captures people walking on the sidewalk and why not the person who exited her car, who was it “Casper the ghost” driving the vehicle,

 

[tooltimetim]

I have spent a couple hours playing and replaying the parking lot video, where the suv was parked was intentionable, the video does pickup people parked nearby getting out and walking, can anyone explain why this camera did not pickup a individuals motion 20 yards approx the other individual all in the same frame
I know the video is somewhat grainy, all I know solving this piece of the puzzle would solve the crime
There is thousands of articles on line explaining these cameras , but vague on why this failed to detect but “selectively detects”

 

[tb24oh]

I have spent a couple hours playing and replaying the parking lot video, where the suv was parked was intentionable, the video does pickup people parked nearby getting out and walking, can anyone explain why this camera did not pickup a individuals motion 20 yards approx the other individual all in the same frame
I know the video is somewhat grainy, all I know solving this piece of the puzzle would solve the crime
There is thousands of articles on line explaining these cameras , but vague on why this failed to detect but “selectively detects”

The video camera only picks up when someone is close to it. The background movement is incidental. It's not a continuous feed, but only motion sensor. It only happened to even capture the SUV pulling in to the lot by coincidence, and sheer luck, because someone was walking very close by.

 

[Steelslady]

And it happening the govt uses satellites thru the Sirius, google and other unmentioned space sources to track you visually, by your cars on board computer (on star) your phone either by voice or tracking, so if the weather was favorable they could have obtained a decent image of and individual and which way they departed the parking lot after abandoning car
Plus I find that the camera at outside Clancy’s not working properly, bothersome, it catches the suv comes in (motion) why did it not pick up the motion of people , I am going through to be sarcastic here and wonder does the guy who owns the cameras a friend of bill and deleted or edited a portion, this case hinges on this one part the parking lot, look at the footage , it captures people walking on the sidewalk and why not the person who exited her car, who was it “Casper the ghost” driving the vehicle,

I share your frustration. We have another case on here where the same exact thing happened with the camera- Paul Batson's car pulled up, and just before someone opened the driver's door, it went out and they didn't catch who was driving the car. They found the keys on the ground, but no trace of Paul. It just seems so coincidental that at the very moment when you want to see who go out of the car, it futz's out. Yet there's no proof of any tampering with either camera unfortunately.

 

[Steelslady]

I have spent a couple hours playing and replaying the parking lot video, where the suv was parked was intentionable, the video does pickup people parked nearby getting out and walking, can anyone explain why this camera did not pickup a individuals motion 20 yards approx the other individual all in the same frame
I know the video is somewhat grainy, all I know solving this piece of the puzzle would solve the crime
There is thousands of articles on line explaining these cameras , but vague on why this failed to detect but “selectively detects”

What gets me is that there were people walking around, yet unfortunately no one remembers seeing anything. Then again, how many of us really are that observant when in parking lots in terms of who gets in and out of cars. We're usually too busy getting our groceries or items we bought at the store in the car and going home or off to the next errand. It's just too bad no one saw who got out of the SUV that day.

 

[tooltimetim]

Thanks for the info on the camera, what lousy luck, what a lousy camera setup for crime monitoring , you would have thought with the current crime level in Riverside they would have upgraded the system, my wife and I have lived in Riverside for 8 years, being retired military we reside in the WPAFB housing, which our home is about 1.5 miles from Cheryls, you definately have to mindful and be active in neighborhood watch.
I was so hoping that the camera would have shown better continuous feed.
I bet the police think the same, this is key to Cheryl’s disappearance, does anyone know if the police had the FBI enhance the camera footage if possible , (clean it up) to see who was driving
Was there any other cameras in that area, the plaza across the street from Kroger by the laundromat, or the church, or high rise
Also did any of the delivery trucks to Kroger that morning have a dash cam, did the RTA bus come by right after her vehicle pulled in lot, they are loaded with cameras