Guess what everyone today is Angela Wagners BIRTHDAY!
Wonder what kind of birthday cake she had!
One with a file would likely be preferred....
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Guess what everyone today is Angela Wagners BIRTHDAY!
Wonder what kind of birthday cake she had!
Guess what everyone today is Angela Wagners BIRTHDAY!
Wonder what kind of birthday cake she had![/QUOTE
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ThisWhen this Motion was argued in Court at Jake's last hearing, Canepa said Jake was violent towards one of the victims, theft was involved, and there were other things that happened as well.
I hope Deering allows all of this to come out at trial. My opinion is that it's absolutely relevant to show how Jake was treating the victims, it can really show motive and even an escalation of violence.
Hard to say. I couldn't bring myself to watch the first one, let alone the 2nd or eventual 3rd. SMH
I have followed the Rhoden/Gilley murders since the day after they happened. The two journalists that I found doing the most investigating and reporting were Chris Graves and Jody Barr. Most of you should know their names and their work. With their curiosity and compassion, they made things happen. They did a great job of holding people accountable (both the suspects and LE) Then, mid-investigation(I’m sorry I can’t give exact dates), both of these great journalists moved several states away, in different directions, to take new jobs in their respective fields. Is that coincidence? I have talked to Chris, and she won’t get into any specifics while the case is open. From reading her work, I know that she has some of the most inside knowledge of this case(outside of LE). I cannot wait til that woman writes a book about all of this. I believe she will, once this is all over. But it will be awhile. IMO
I have followed the Rhoden/Gilley murders since the day after they happened. The two journalists that I found doing the most investigating and reporting were Chris Graves and Jody Barr. Most of you should know their names and their work. With their curiosity and compassion, they made things happen. They did a great job of holding people accountable (both the suspects and LE) Then, mid-investigation(I’m sorry I can’t give exact dates), both of these great journalists moved several states away, in different directions, to take new jobs in their respective fields. Is that coincidence? I have talked to Chris, and she won’t get into any specifics while the case is open. From reading her work, I know that she has some of the most inside knowledge of this case(outside of LE). I cannot wait til that woman writes a book about all of this. I believe she will, once this is all over. But it will be awhile. IMO
It always seem suspicious that they both were reporting heavily on this case and both up and move about a thousand miles away.
My opinion only....
There are no hearings scheduled for next week. RN's trial still shows scheduling for Oct 21, but we know from the last hearing, it will be rescheduled.
JW's next pre-trial hearing is scheduled for Dec. 11 at 10 am.
IIRC, the judge is using this time to review all the motions made by some of the defendants (many recently filed to meet the deadline). JMO, they will reschedule dates for these when the judge is ready to rule.
Is anyone getting the feeling that more is going on in the background than we can even begin to comprehend? Can we believe it has been almost a year since the awesome arrests of RN and the Wagners? IMO, in the past year, Pike and surrounding counties have been hit hard with new deaths and/or unresolved murders, and it is a daunting task to research and connect, but I do believe it's happening. And I am not saying they are connected to the murders of the Rhodens and Hazel Gilley. I research for hours on end, and I am saying that I believe many unresolved murders will come to justice in the near years. With each arrest, someone talks. HopeforPikeCounty. All JMHO
Angie made it clear to her mom--- don't testify against any of them!
So Rita is between a rock and a hard place. If she cooperates with the prosecution to lessen her charges and sentence, thus helping herself, inevitably she could end up testifying against her family. That could be in her own trial or at theirs.
But if she stays stubborn, like we have seen already in court, and tries to play it off like she and her family didn't know they did wrong etc...then she is risking getting the book thrown at her.
Slippery slope.....What to do?
...2 Cents....
Rita Newcomb is charged with obstruction of justice, perjury, and three counts of forgery. No question, I help my child, grandchild(ren), if I have evidence that will do so, or exonerate them, and pull my time for my own crimes if found guilty.
She has no priors, she'd be out within 18 mos. if that. Possibly time served. Her kin are facing the DP.
I keep asking myself, why would the state of Ohio pursue these charges against RN? They appear on the surface to be so small compared to the brutal murders of eight people, yet Ohio won't drop it.Interesting. To help her family she could try to take the fall and say it was all her idea and Jake was fine with the custody. That she, not Jake, instigated everything. It could go to the heart of the motive, that really Jake was fine with the way custody was, It was just Rita being overly concerned about it, "just wanting Jake to be protected as a dad if something happened."
A long shot that may not pay off, but if she really wants to help them she will have to "shoot herself in the foot" to do it.
Reasonable doubt?
Interesting. To help her family she could try to take the fall and say it was all her idea and Jake was fine with the custody. That she, not Jake, instigated everything. It could go to the heart of the motive, that really Jake was fine with the way custody was, It was just Rita being overly concerned about it, "just wanting Jake to be protected as a dad if something happened."
A long shot that may not pay off, but if she really wants to help them she will have to "shoot herself in the foot" to do it.
Reasonable doubt?
I keep asking myself, why would the state of Ohio pursue these charges against RN? They appear on the surface to be so small compared to the brutal murders of eight people, yet Ohio won't drop it.
Are they doing this to try to get someone to turn and confess?
Or maybe, the charges against RN run deeper than we realize.
After all, Ohio wants a DP conviction for the W4. Based on the size of the W4's Discovery files it appears there is overwhelming evidence, of something..
- The most obvious motive for the murders is custody of a child.
- There was an undercurrent of drugs.
- But after almost 3 years of cross country investigation, I believe LE has discovered additional motives at play that I couldn't even guess at.
On the surface, RN's charges appear to be aimed at establishing the fact that she is an Ohio notary and is willing to falsify documents.
There are many, many different types of documents and legal titles that require a notary's stamp and signature......
Just a possible scenario.
JMO
.I keep asking myself, why would the state of Ohio pursue these charges against RN? They appear on the surface to be so small compared to the brutal murders of eight people, yet Ohio won't drop it.
Are they doing this to try to get someone to turn and confess?
Or maybe, the charges against RN run deeper than we realize.
After all, Ohio wants a DP conviction for the W4. Based on the size of the W4's Discovery files it appears there is overwhelming evidence, of something..
- The most obvious motive for the murders is custody of a child.
- There was an undercurrent of drugs.
- But after almost 3 years of cross country investigation, I believe LE has discovered additional motives at play that I couldn't even guess at.
On the surface, RN's charges appear to be aimed at establishing the fact that she is an Ohio notary and is willing to falsify documents.
There are many, many different types of documents and legal titles that require a notary's stamp and signature......
Just a possible scenario.
JMO