We all are frustrated and have different opinions and ways of looking at the situations, especially the hearings. No worries, nothing to forgive, I didn't think you were being mean.
Thank you
We all are frustrated and have different opinions and ways of looking at the situations, especially the hearings. No worries, nothing to forgive, I didn't think you were being mean.
In GW4's discovery from June 26th 2019, there is DNA listed:
DNA 1 (5/18/17) 12 pp
DNA 2 (5/18/17) 19 pp
AMEN. Thank you!!
For GW4 to give out information that is true he has to know something. He can't know something without implicating himself, without being a part of the Wagner Criminal Conspiracy and Engaging in a Pattern of Corrupt Activity
Count 9 = Conspiracy
Count 22 = Engaging in a Pattern of Corrupt Activity
If he is guilty of even one charge then he is guilty of the Conspiracy charge and Corrupt Activity charge in his indictment.
GW4 is up on 22 felony charges with all kinds of specifications. No matter what he proclaims to prosecutors they are not going to decide he is suddenly innocent and let him go. Just because he says he didn't do the crimes or didn't do most of them, blaming others, does not mean he gets a walk out of jail free card.
I do remember seeing a spot on that car door being marked as evidence on a photo!
DNA evidence doesn't have to be blood though, right? Anything from the body--spit, urine, sweat? Ignorance speaking here, but I will look it up now.
In GW4's discovery from June 26th 2019, there is DNA listed:
DNA 1 (5/18/17) 12 pp
DNA 2 (5/18/17) 19 pp
AMEN. Thank you!!
For GW4 to give out information that is true he has to know something. He can't know something without implicating himself, without being a part of the Wagner Criminal Conspiracy and Engaging in a Pattern of Corrupt Activity
Count 9 = Conspiracy
Count 22 = Engaging in a Pattern of Corrupt Activity
If he is guilty of even one charge then he is guilty of the Conspiracy charge and Corrupt Activity charge in his indictment.
GW4 is up on 22 felony charges with all kinds of specifications. No matter what he proclaims to prosecutors they are not going to decide he is suddenly innocent and let him go. Just because he says he didn't do the crimes or didn't do most of them, blaming others, does not mean he gets a walk out of jail free card.
So true!!In GW4's discovery from June 26th 2019, there is DNA listed:
DNA 1 (5/18/17) 12 pp
DNA 2 (5/18/17) 19 pp
For GW4 to give out information that is true he has to know something. He can't know something without implicating himself, without being a part of the Wagner Criminal Conspiracy and Engaging in a Pattern of Corrupt Activity
Count 9 = Conspiracy
Count 22 = Engaging in a Pattern of Corrupt Activity
If he is guilty of even one charge then he is guilty of the Conspiracy charge and Corrupt Activity charge in his indictment.
GW4 is up on 22 felony charges with all kinds of specifications. No matter what he proclaims to prosecutors they are not going to decide he is suddenly innocent and let him go. Just because he says he didn't do the crimes or didn't do most of them, blaming others, does not mean he gets a walk out of jail free card.
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I have a feeling one of them walks somehow. If no dna evidence on gw4 and he decides to talk, he could be set free
So true!!In GW4's discovery from June 26th 2019, there is DNA listed:
DNA 1 (5/18/17) 12 pp
DNA 2 (5/18/17) 19 pp
For GW4 to give out information that is true he has to know something. He can't know something without implicating himself, without being a part of the Wagner Criminal Conspiracy and Engaging in a Pattern of Corrupt Activity
Count 9 = Conspiracy
Count 22 = Engaging in a Pattern of Corrupt Activity
If he is guilty of even one charge then he is guilty of the Conspiracy charge and Corrupt Activity charge in his indictment.
GW4 is up on 22 felony charges with all kinds of specifications. No matter what he proclaims to prosecutors they are not going to decide he is suddenly innocent and let him go. Just because he says he didn't do the crimes or didn't do most of them, blaming others, does not mean he gets a walk out of jail free card.
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Good catch about the spot marked evidence on the car door....CC, you probably have researched this and may know?
Good catch about the blood on car door....
I know for a fact that DNA can come from many things! Remember they swab people's mouths for DNA, inside of cheek. You spit in a cup to find out your DNA profile for those ancestry profile sites.
How Can a Person's DNA Be Found at a Crime Scene? | Education
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Bodily Fluids
One of the most common sources of DNA at a crime scene is a bodily fluid. Blood, saliva, sweat, urine and semen can readily provide DNA information at crime scenes, as can just about any other substance secreted or excreted by the body.
Skin and Hair
Dead skin cells and hair follicles naturally fall away from the body on a regular basis, and their presence at the crime scene may provide enough information for DNA analysis. In addition, if a struggle occurred, a victim might have skin cells from a criminal trapped underneath his fingernails.
Touch DNA
Touch DNA refers to the oils and epithelial cells left whenever a person touches any object. Any time your skin contacts another surface, it may leave trace amounts of your DNA behind.
How Can a Person's DNA Be Found at a Crime Scene?
In GW4's discovery from June 26th 2019, there is DNA listed:
DNA 1 (5/18/17) 12 pp
DNA 2 (5/18/17) 19 pp
For GW4 to give out information that is true he has to know something. He can't know something without implicating himself, without being a part of the Wagner Criminal Conspiracy and Engaging in a Pattern of Corrupt Activity
Count 9 = Conspiracy
Count 22 = Engaging in a Pattern of Corrupt Activity
If he is guilty of even one charge then he is guilty of the Conspiracy charge and Corrupt Activity charge in his indictment.
GW4 is up on 22 felony charges with all kinds of specifications. No matter what he proclaims to prosecutors they are not going to decide he is suddenly innocent and let him go. Just because he says he didn't do the crimes or didn't do most of them, blaming others, does not mean he receives a get out of jail free card.
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Sorry, I had to go back and correct that, Loomis said it was a spot on the car door marked as evidence, I thought it was a reference to blood but in checking the post it just says spot.Link to ANY blood on CRJR car door?
Right, no doubt. We know that you don't have to even be at the crime scene to be found guilty of murder. You can still be charged with murder and also they tack on conspiracy to commit murder.If the evidence shows that GW4 or any of the W's knew the murder was being planned and participated in planning it, he will also be guilty of murder. Not just an accessory or conspiracy, etc. but aggravated murder.
This is the only forum I'm on and I won't scroll and roll. I'm here for one thing - Justice for H. Gilley and the Rhodens.
You Sleuthers do realize that Jake Wagner lived part time from 2010 to 2015 at Hanna Rhodens parents home’s for the exception of the one Dana, Hanna May and Chris jr was killed in because Big Chris had just purchased it for them, so that means JW can be ruled out in 3 of the homes even Kenneth camper for any DNA in those places maybe even for the rest of the Wagners also because they where all friends at one time, so you could be right Ann99 the BCI probably found someone else blood, JMOI don't understand those documents either.
I'm thinking if there was DNA, meaning if one of the W4 were injured, it would have been at the big confrontation at CRsr. My thought has always been that it was JW who sustained a small injury that went unnoticed at the time.
its just a guess.
I still think there was blood on the door of CRjr vehicle in CRsr driveway. my opinion.
You Sleuthers do realize that Jake Wagner lived part time from 2010 to 2015 at Hanna Rhodens parents home’s for the exception of the one Dana, Hanna May and Chris jr was killed in because Big Chris had just purchased it for them, so that means JW can be ruled out in 3 of the homes even Kenneth camper for any DNA in those places maybe even for the rest of the Wagners also because they where all friends at one time, so you could be right Ann99 the BCI probably found someone else blood, JMO
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Forensics standing beside CRjrs car door
The orange tape was on the passenger side door, correct?
Hi Col Mustard! I didn't see any orange tape. Was someone able to zoom in to find some?