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Agree, it must be in the redacted portions. CR2 is the only one I saw as well, unless there's something in the preliminary ARs. This news item quoting Dr Lakshmi is from the time the preliminary reports were released, April 26, 2016
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coroner-most-ohio-victims-shot-many-times-some-bruised/
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From an article after the redacted Final AR's were released
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-massacre-victims-showed-signs-struggle-autopsy-n562651
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https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...ses-redacted-rhoden-autopsy-reports/90912132/
We really need to set up profiles for each victim & their crime scene and post the known information. Want to volunteer? If enough people volunteer, we can divide up the victims and crime scenes and work on a few at a time.
I kind of like the format this person used to catalogue the EAR/ONS cases
http://www.coldcase-earons.com/01.php
For some reason, they've been interested in him since the git go. In the interview I linked earlier, about the argument with the deputies, we don't know what that was about, or what was said. The day they found the bodies, though, we see them looking into JM's truck, like they're very interested, then they take the truck. They let his son, and BJM, take their vehicles, but not JM. It may be a simple explanation. Idk.
They were all interviewed there at the scene. BJM says she doesn't remember how JM came to be at the scene. At some point, one of them takes off walking up the road. BJM goes into the homes, retrieving infants, JM seems to already know the outcome. BJM's timeline didn't add up either, in the beginning. It didn't add up though, because she was not wanting to tell them the real reason why she was there, is my theory (which was to help with the "gardening"). She may have even done that before going into CR1's trailer, making her timeline being off, even greater. At one point, LM says she came and got him, and his boy, which infers she left the scene (before, or after she called LE?).
LM is the one who told us that JM texted JW at 2:00 am and AM texted DR at 1:00 am. LM talking, this whole time, has not helped the Ms at all. We may have gleaned some info from him, but he's a defense attorney's nightmare, and I think they've finally gotten him to understand and be quiet. JM on the other hand has never spoken publicly (smart).
The red truck may be connected to someone they are interested in, but, it had been kept hidden away, and all of a sudden it pops up, and who ends up with it? JM. JM has not been named a suspect but he has been named a witness. A witness to what?
I agree, but, some of the stuff he's dropped, has not helped his family. It has made them look suspicious. His wording may not be the same as the wording they used in their interviews and thus, it causes them to be looked at harder. Honestly, that truck would have been the least of my worries.
link (I just tried & it worked) Cross fingers..
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The Manleys, esp. LM, have been so up front and open with the news media, I don't see them as suspects. They've been investigated inside and out for 2 yrs with nothing to show for it. There is also no motive.We've been over this dozens of times I'm really tired of talking about it and honestly think it distracts us from focusing on more likely suspects.
Nothing personal, no offense. I just refuse to discuss them any longer. Maybe it would work best if we avoid discussing the Manleys as suspects one way or another unless someone comes up with some new evidence related to them. How does that sound? Is that something we can all work with?
link (I just tried & it worked) Cross fingers..
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True. I feel like Leonard comes from a place of “we got nothing to hide” and he’s a “call it as he sees it” kind of person.
In hindsight, I’m sure he realizes the truck really wasn’t that big of a deal in the big picture. With all due respect to the man, he was grief stricken and grief makes anyone get upset about things that seem trivial. I also believe he felt his family was unfairly attacked by LE.
Agree. We see it all the time. Family is questioned and questioned, their records and insurance, and alibis checked. Family is the first to usually be looked at, and in this case, it has been all family, who found the bodies, too. LM was defending his family but, I'd bet a dime to a donut it was their lawyer after the gps thing, that has gotten him to be quiet.
I would be interested in helping do this. Should we wait until the new change in Websleuths though? I'm kind of paranoid about losing all this information everyone has worked so hard to obtain on these murders.
The one for EAR/ONS was done on a website/blog it looks like. Maybe we should try something like that OR create sub threads for each victim linked to this thread. I don’t know how to do that though lol.
I'm not real clear on what you're wanting to do, but I am willing to help. :lookingitup:
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If any info goes on it that is not MSM, or if it comes from the basement, we'd have to put it on a separate blog, or else we'd break TOS, wouldn't we?
True. I feel like Leonard comes from a place of “we got nothing to hide” and he’s a “call it as he sees it” kind of person.
In hindsight, I’m sure he realizes the truck really wasn’t that big of a deal in the big picture. With all due respect to the man, he was grief stricken and grief makes anyone get upset about things that seem trivial. I also believe he felt his family was unfairly attacked by LE.
BBM
If any info goes on it that is not MSM, or if it comes from the basement, we'd have to put it on a separate blog, or else we'd break TOS, wouldn't we?
All I can tell you is hundreds of LE have worked hard to find a way to blame JM for this murder, probably at the expense of actually finding the real killer.
LE - DeWine, Reader & Prosecutor Rob Junk - have said their laser focus is on the Wagner family, now living in Alaska.
LE has had the entire Manley family testify before the GJ, questioned, given polys searched, etc. LE has said they are not the focus of the investigation.
I've followed cases where discussions went on for 7 years, where people often tried to keep discussion from focusing on a suspect or suspects while promoting theories and suspects that don't add up.
I can handle those discussions, the last time for 7 years. Every week. Every day. I can counter the same argument with facts about a suspect 10 times a day, 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year, etc. Because sometimes its important to do that to protect and help people who are innocent victims and don't have the power or money to fight those who don't have their best interests in mind.
All I can tell you is hundreds of LE have worked hard to find a way to blame JM for this murder, probably at the expense of actually finding the real killer.
LE - DeWine, Reader & Prosecutor Rob Junk - have said their laser focus is on the Wagner family, now living in Alaska.
LE has had the entire Manley family testify before the GJ, questioned, given polys searched, etc. LE has said they are not the focus of the investigation.
I've followed cases where discussions went on for 7 years, where people often tried to keep discussion from focusing on a suspect or suspects while promoting theories and suspects that don't add up.
I can handle those discussions, the last time for 7 years. Every week. Every day. I can counter the same argument with facts about a suspect 10 times a day, 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year, etc. Because sometimes its important to do that to protect and help people who are innocent victims and don't have the power or money to fight those who don't have their best interests in mind.