OK, Noah Presgrove, 19, Sept 4, 2023, Comanche, homicide, attended a house party, found on side of road

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Nothing unknown in the link but more photos and screenshots of texts I've not seen before.
The only thing i was not aware of-and still don’t fully understand-was the bit about Kaden’s mom and her sister picking up his cousin around 330. The article states that the mom and her sister saw Kaden’s cousins (who apparently was drunk) life 360 moving and told her to “pull over” as they got closer….uncertain if she was driving while intoxicated but by then Noah had run off so I do wonder if they also saw anything while they were out. If he was already gone by 515 maybe they also have info that could be valuable.
 
From your link:

Presgrove's best friend Jack Newton said he happened upon the scene about 6am as he left to go fishing with his father Caleb, whom he called at 6.05am.

However, another teenager who was at the party claimed in a leaked interview with police that Jack knew Presgrove was dead an hour earlier.

'Jack Newton bursts through the door saying 'Noah is dead'. Like, frantic, tearing up,
' Kaden Pressy, 20, told detectives.

'He slammed through the door… and he ran back out the door immediately. I look at my phone, because I felt like I just went to sleep, and it was 5.15am.'


To keep things together: Bombshell details about death of Noah Presgrove in leaked police tape

Surely the police would have investigated this and maybe the other teenager was mistaken or something..as I think it would be a major red flag for this time to be so off.

As I think 5 and 6 would look a bit similar on a phone, especially if you've just woken up and maybe still not sober.
 
People's recollections certainly varied.

The particular question is how the friend, Jack, knew Noah was deceased before the passing motorists spotted Noah ?
Omo.
 
You're right; liver mortis will go to the lowest part of the body. It sounds like he was killed, left lying on his back while his killers discussed their options, then they moved his body to the side of the road in the fetal position.
Sorry I’m late to the party but working backward with liver mortis he had to be deceased and on his back between 2 and 4 hours before they found him right? I’m reading through the historical posts now so apologies.
 
Renee asked where the guns were, and they gave them to her to remove from the house as another possible complication.

They included Jack's AR-15-style 300 blackout rifle with a thermal sight and suppressor, Brylan's bolt action hunting rifle, and Issack's pump action shotgun that he was seen holding in one of the videos from the party.

Rbm.
Really ?

Sounds like it could also be construed as concealing evidence.
Imo.



Pic. from the link :
pic_DM.jpeg


Is it possible Noah was beaten to death with the weapons -- by those who owned the guns ?
I was wondering about the scattered teeth.

From above link :

The new theory was that two other vehicles were there when Kaden arrived and they were gone by the time Tyler and the other 911 caller arrived.

During that time, the black shorts were removed from Noah's body and the white ones put on the road, the theory goes.


Does anyone have a theory as to why Noah's black shorts were removed and the white ones placed by the road ?


Eta : I found one the the comments under "All" at the above link, to be of interest !

Omo.
 
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Speculation only :
One or more of the young people killed Noah and one of their parents helped to cover it up; hence the unknown vehicle that Kaden saw ?

Also found it odd that the friend decided to go fishing so early the next morning after partying hard the night before.
Actually hours before.
Omo.
 
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The headline is misleading because it doesn't really go into the timeline at all, but a thorough overview of the case.

 
Have his black shorts been found at all?
Good question.

There is a missing clue, or dna, or something....
It doesn't seem random at all.

What if there is some truth to the other young people's accounts ?
I.e., they did "shower" him but he was already dead ?
It just seems odd or 'off'.
Omo.
 
Good question.

There is a missing clue, or dna, or something....
It doesn't seem random at all.

What if there is some truth to the other young people's accounts ?
I.e., they did "shower" him but he was already dead ?
It just seems odd or 'off'.
Omo.
Good thing we know who showered him ,now.
So it would seem some party guest were unaware of the shower at the party ,but some knew he went home to take a shower earlier some didn't . I find it hard to believe there are no pictures of the five person sxs accident leaked yet.

Izzy ,I hope someone has a hard time line somewhere, it has been a year I think this Kid said he went to sleep at 300 ish and was woke up at what he swears is 515. Kaden sounds like a guys who looks at his phone often , so if he said he knew cuz he looked at the time ,if his phone doesnt put him on that side of the ABC on the cell tower , I wont believe he was there at all.
The phones of those two people and his phones should either put them together or not.
Not to mention all the other phone data ,but it will be messy so I hope they got a great cell expert.
 
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Renee asked where the guns were, and they gave them to her to remove from the house as another possible complication.

They included Jack's AR-15-style 300 blackout rifle with a thermal sight and suppressor, Brylan's bolt action hunting rifle, and Issack's pump action shotgun that he was seen holding in one of the videos from the party.

Rbm.
Really ?

Sounds like it could also be construed as concealing evidence.
Imo.



Pic. from the link :
View attachment 532680


Is it possible Noah was beaten to death with the weapons -- by those who owned the guns ?
I was wondering about the scattered teeth.

From above link :

The new theory was that two other vehicles were there when Kaden arrived and they were gone by the time Tyler and the other 911 caller arrived.

During that time, the black shorts were removed from Noah's body and the white ones put on the road, the theory goes.


Does anyone have a theory as to why Noah's black shorts were removed and the white ones placed by the road ?


Eta : I found one the the comments under "All" at the above link, to be of interest !

Omo.
This is one kid’s recollection, yet no other people corroborated it. He may truly “remember” these details, but he may be wrong.

My own opinion is I sure hope the police are able to tie all these contradictory reports together. These kids were drinking heavily, possibly doing drugs? and barely sleeping at all.

The reports and timelines of the drivers on the road have to be more believable just because they weren’t sleep-deprived and drinking for 2+ days.

I have a theory that Noah took the ATV when he was mad and crashed again, either while alone or with other kids. Then the kids either found him in bad shape or were with him when it happened and took him from the crash site and dumped him at the highway. Teeth were loose, his body just thrown off the ATV as they panicked. Still just a horrible accident, but they moved him and the ATV and hid evidence.

They freely admit hiding guns and alcohol, why not hide a little more evidence and move Noah and the ATV, too? I think this is all death by horrible misadventure with a panicky coverup.

In any case, it’s a tragic loss. RIP Noah.

All my own opinion.
 
Have his black shorts been found at all?

It's long been reported that following the ATV accident, NP changed from his short pants (black) to the white, print pair found with his body per the autopsy report. Whether or not the black shorts were found with his misplaced adidas shoe at the party house, I don't recall seeing this reported in MSM.

5/26/24 - DM

The rough series of events that emerges is that after two nights or particularly heavy partying, Presgrove and several others took an ATV for a drunken spin and flipped it.

No one was hurt, but he was dirty enough that two of his friends gave him a shower and he changed into a different pair of shorts, and argued with the birthday girl about whether he could sleep in her bed.
 
This is one kid’s recollection, yet no other people corroborated it. He may truly “remember” these details, but he may be wrong.

My own opinion is I sure hope the police are able to tie all these contradictory reports together. These kids were drinking heavily, possibly doing drugs? and barely sleeping at all.

The reports and timelines of the drivers on the road have to be more believable just because they weren’t sleep-deprived and drinking for 2+ days.

I have a theory that Noah took the ATV when he was mad and crashed again, either while alone or with other kids. Then the kids either found him in bad shape or were with him when it happened and took him from the crash site and dumped him at the highway. Teeth were loose, his body just thrown off the ATV as they panicked. Still just a horrible accident, but they moved him and the ATV and hid evidence.

They freely admit hiding guns and alcohol, why not hide a little more evidence and move Noah and the ATV, too? I think this is all death by horrible misadventure with a panicky coverup.

In any case, it’s a tragic loss. RIP Noah.

All my own opinion.
I have not heard anything about drugs ...
I heard about a large party , and an underage cousin .. drugs have not been anything I heard these kids to be involved with ..do you have a link or links? I would think links would be a thing as this case is kinda TX/OK BIG.
 
It's long been reported that following the ATV accident, NP changed from his short pants (black) to the white, print pair found with his body per the autopsy report. Whether or not the black shorts were found with his misplaced adidas shoe at the party house, I don't recall seeing this reported in MSM.

5/26/24 - DM

The rough series of events that emerges is that after two nights or particularly heavy partying, Presgrove and several others took an ATV for a drunken spin and flipped it.

No one was hurt, but he was dirty enough that two of his friends gave him a shower and he changed into a different pair of shorts, and argued with the birthday girl about whether he could sleep in her bed.
4 Other people were also involved in the same sxs side by side accident.
Lets assume they all got escorted out of the horrible sitch they all found them selves in ,after they were all washed an clean ..
Outside they still have a wrecked 20,000 $ off road suv.
 
I have not heard anything about drugs ...
I heard about a large party , and an underage cousin .. drugs have not been anything I heard these kids to be involved with ..do you have a link or links? I would think links would be a thing as this case is kinda TX/OK BIG.

Can't speak to others at the party but we know for fact that NP was not doing drugs per his AR.

While NP's BAC was above the legal limit, toxicology screening for various drugs were negative per his previously linked AR.
 
This is one kid’s recollection, yet no other people corroborated it. He may truly “remember” these details, but he may be wrong.

My own opinion is I sure hope the police are able to tie all these contradictory reports together. These kids were drinking heavily, possibly doing drugs? and barely sleeping at all.

The reports and timelines of the drivers on the road have to be more believable just because they weren’t sleep-deprived and drinking for 2+ days.

I have a theory that Noah took the ATV when he was mad and crashed again, either while alone or with other kids. Then the kids either found him in bad shape or were with him when it happened and took him from the crash site and dumped him at the highway. Teeth were loose, his body just thrown off the ATV as they panicked. Still just a horrible accident, but they moved him and the ATV and hid evidence.

They freely admit hiding guns and alcohol, why not hide a little more evidence and move Noah and the ATV, too? I think this is all death by horrible misadventure with a panicky coverup.

In any case, it’s a tragic loss. RIP Noah.

All my own opinion.
Bbm.
That's a valid theory.

Still ... Noah seemed to have been cleaned up, and the part about his shorts -- why leave them there at all ?
What was the clothing item doing off of him.
It sounds like the white shorts were placed there, and did not fall off him, aka a hit & run ?

Also curious how his teeth came to be there on the road.
If they'd been knocked loose, but still in his mouth, one would assume they'd still be inside his mouth.
After death. the mouth won't open by itself, as far as I know.
Just small things that stand out to me.

If it's an accident, they had no reason (IMO) to move him.
An accident is an accident ... and no one is liable.
Why take Noah elsewhere ?
This feels like a cover up, and that's sad to me.
He seemed like an attractive and nice young man, and I can't shake the notion that someone may have been jealous ?
Omo.
 
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4 Other people were also involved in the same sxs side by side accident.
Lets assume they all got escorted out of the horrible sitch they all found them selves in ,after they were all washed an clean ..
Outside they still have a wrecked 20,000 $ off road suv.
Bbm.
Good point.
Wonder if LE had a look at it ?
Omo.
 

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