All the following is my opinion.
OMG is exactly how I felt about all the gory details.
IMO, the burial hole was made to bury the car and and the freezer was a poor second choice.
I understand the burial hole was made the day prior to the abduction and it would be an easy job for a skid steer to dig the hole in short order. Covering the hole with a SUV in it would have taken but a few minutes.
It makes sense that the car was to disappear as that would indicate the pair had just vanished into thin air. That plan went awry when the women fought back and the key fob for the SUV was probably lost eliminating the possibility of driving the SUV to the burial site. So they had to leave the car at the abduction site. That was their first major mistake.
Most folks do not understand how quickly a skid steer can dig a large hole. That is what they are made for. About every farm in our community has a skid steer.
Every PU has a set of ratchet straps with it but rarely does one see a freezer in the bed of the truck!!
Just my opinion and 2 cents.
Just had a thought. If a person was holding onto keys and got tazed, would that fry the key?
Just had a thought. If a person was holding onto keys and got tazed, would that fry the key?
duct tape, electrical tape and ratchet straps to seal the freezer maybe? Keep odor and biological material in?OMG
Seized as evidence at the burial site were Wrangler blue jeans, sweatshirts, T-shirts, a black jacket, cloth gloves, ball caps, duct tape and and a sheathed black KA-BAR knife, the new records reveal. All were described as "with possible blood."
Also seized were a black saw handle, two ratchet straps, a "black taser/flashlight" and "electrical cord and small black tape."
duct tape, electrical tape and ratchet straps to seal the freezer maybe? Keep odor and biological material in?
A black saw handle? Oooooomg.As if it could get any worse.
Noting:
The OSBI also revealed in the new court records that "personal items" were located in the hole after the bodies were removed. "These items did not belong to Butler or Kelley," an OSBI agent wrote. "This information was not released to the public."
Seized as evidence at the burial site were Wrangler blue jeans, sweatshirts, T-shirts, a black jacket, cloth gloves, ball caps, duct tape and and a sheathed black KA-BAR knife, the new records reveal. All were described as "with possible blood."
Also seized were a black saw handle, two ratchet straps, a "black taser/flashlight" and "electrical cord and small black tape."
A black saw handle? Oooooomg.
Thanks for your 2 Cents
There are only 2 reasons the car was found where it was...
1.) They planned to leave it and let it seem like an abduction missing persons case.
2.) They planned to get rid of the car but were not able to drive it because of lost key or engine trouble.
I used to think the theory of car burial was unrealistic but I am not familiar with skid steers and according to you it is not too far-fetched to dig a very large deep hole with one.
I agree that leaving the car at the abduction site was a huge mistake but there are so many they made.
Adams says she called Veronica at 9:00am to confirm the visit and LE says phone records show the call. Adams says this is when Veronica cancelled the visit but LE says at the time of the call Veronica was on her way to pick up Jilian. In other words, Veronica wouldn't have been picking Jilian up if she cancelled the visit.
Another issue not adding up is Adams saying Veronica cancelled when there was her child's birthday party involved. Not logical Veronica would cancel taking her children to their party when their relatives were waiting to see them.
I suspect Adams and the children didn't know about the party, perhaps it was a surprise for the children.
And I don't think Veronica would want to tell Adams any of her business of what she was doing that day, apparently they were "enemies" fighting each other for custody. There would not be friendly conversations, not very likely.
So Adam's visit cancellation lie is easily exposed as not credible and It just goes on and on the mistakes they made as far as getting away with murder.
2 Cents
My understanding is the SUV had a push button start. So there’s really no reason for anyone to hold the key, often women just leave them in their purse, push the button and drive away.
Purely my speculation but perhaps none of these five were familiar with push button ignitions and in their frenzy couldn’t get the SUV started even if the key was within range, by sitting in the drivers seat, holding down the brake peddle at the same time as pressing the start button. JMO
This is Oklahoma. They will get death sentences.All we need is for one of them to have left a finger print ... Just one print.
Game over. Expect pleas....2 Cents
Yep, we don't play in Oklahoma.This is Oklahoma. They will get death sentences.
This is Oklahoma. They will get death sentences.
It will never plead guilty, they feel they're doing God's workNot likely if they plead guilty.
It will never plead guilty, they feel they're doing God's work
That doesn’t mean she won’t get the needle. The only woman on death row in Oklahoma now had her boyfriend shoot her husband and then she shot him…and she got the death penalty. This case is far more heinous.Tifany Adams already aditted responsibility for both deaths directly to LE and it is recorded.
That doesn’t mean she won’t get the needle. The only woman on death row in Oklahoma now had her boyfriend shoot her husband and then she shot him…and she got the death penalty. This case is far more heinous.