I agree, it seems like she had close relatives from there at the very least. The bra though could have been a hand-me-down from her mom or something she bought while visiting Kiwi visiting relatives while she lived in another country
Sorry if this has already been covered but were the rings still on her fingers, i.e. do we know what finger each ring was on? I know animals had scattered some of her remains so not sure if everything was intact so to speak.That could be very true, I was thinking that as well.
Also, I searched up the meaning of the 'M-H' on one of her rings, and it most likely represents the first trademark used by McGrath-Hamin, Inc., Providence, Rhode Island in 1951 for jewellery such as rings.
Here are some of the URLs I found relating to the M-H ring.
Silver Forums at 925-1000.com
meaning of "sterling shank" stamped ring? - Friendly Metal Detecting Forums
Sterling mh ring | Etsy
Absolutely! Seems to me also that she was a visitor of some sort, maybe curious about distant relatives in NZ, perhaps even studied there for a semester or three? Buying a bra might indicate a longer stay. Her isotopes shows she grew up in the US or Canada, and seem to back up this.An intriguing detail from the case file - Annie was wearing a bra manufactured in New Zealand."
Definitely seems like she at least had visited family in New Zealand at some point or lived there! Of course, anything's possible
Absolutely! Seems to me also that she was a visitor of some sort, maybe curious about distant relatives in NZ, perhaps even studied there for a semester or three? Buying a bra might indicate a longer stay. Her isotopes shows she grew up in the US or Canada, and seem to back up this.
Many of us outside the US have distant relatives there or in Canada, sometimes we make contact. I know quite a few people over the years who've been contacted by relatives in said countries who are exploring their roots and origin country, my own parents included. Annie Doe might just be one of those people.
Isotope findings are unreliable so honestly I wouldn't put too much stock in them. There could be places in New Zealand that mirror those isotopes too.
Just curious what you're basing your conclusions on when you state isotope findings are unreliable and what places in NZ could mirror Annie's isotope areas. TIA.
Just curious what you're basing your conclusions on when you state isotope findings are unreliable and what places in NZ could mirror Annie's isotope areas. TIA.
None of Buckskin Girl's isotopes pinpointed the states where she grew up or where she was last. I think one of them even indicated that she might be originally from New Jersey.
Seems like an unreliable science at best.
It's totally plausible that Annie Doe WAS traveling along the US/Canada border but I wouldn't make any hard assumptions on where she grew up based on that.
It depends on what bio materials are tested. As far as I know, the few solved cases that we know about that have used isotope testing, we really haven't had any follow up to validate the findings. For example, Lyle Stevik had it done, but we've never been given any information on his life prior to his death, so for all we know, they were spot on.
And in Marcia King's case (BG), her results weren't meant to pinpoint where she grew up, as they only did her hair and nails, what they had on hand, because they didn't want to exhume her. So her results only detailed where she spent the last year or so of her life-how far back depended on how fast her hair grew. So, this case can't be used negate the validity of other cases and their isotope results. Had investigators tested Marcia's teeth and bone, the results most likely would have pinpointed her place of origin, but we'll never know because she was identified before they were to take the next step of exhumation.
Annie's isotope results paint a broader picture because her results are from hair, teeth, bone. But, unless we're told the facts of her life prior to her death after she is ID'd, we'll never know how accurate they are. So, I'm thinking to say it's an unreliable science at best isn't a fair or accurate statement unless there's a solved unidentified remains case on which isotope testing was performed and the results were contrary that I'm not aware of.
Quite a lot more information in this article about the NZ connection, and specifically the individuals in NZ that have been identified by DDP as Annie’s ancestors. Canterbury is a region in the South Island of NZ.
19th century Canterbury couple could help solve US body mystery
“The DNA Doe Project researchers have found two of the New Zealand matches shared DNA with each other. Their common ancestors were Canterbury couple Richard James Vanstone and Harriet Ellen Vanstone, whose maiden name was Williams. Richard was born in Devonport, England in 1832 and died in Little River, Canterbury in 1900. Harriet was born in Akaroa in 1861 and died in Little River in 1948.“
Well that's a headline you don't see every day.Quite a lot more information in this article about the NZ connection, and specifically the individuals in NZ that have been identified by DDP as Annie’s ancestors. Canterbury is a region in the South Island of NZ.
19th century Canterbury couple could help solve US body mystery
“The DNA Doe Project researchers have found two of the New Zealand matches shared DNA with each other. Their common ancestors were Canterbury couple Richard James Vanstone and Harriet Ellen Vanstone, whose maiden name was Williams. Richard was born in Devonport, England in 1832 and died in Little River, Canterbury in 1900. Harriet was born in Akaroa in 1861 and died in Little River in 1948.“