GUILTY PA - Linda Stoltzfoos, 18, murdered, Bird-in-Hand, Lancaster County, 21 June 2020 *arrest* #4

[TTF14]

18-year-old woman missing after attending church service Sunday: police

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[Sillybilly]

Speculation needs to be based on some known fact that is in MSM.

Unless there is MSM or info from LE that states Linda has some mental disability or is on the spectrum, that discussion is not productive and simply derails the thread with many posts that may not even be relevant.

Please move on from that discussion.

Thanks.

 

[Sillybilly]

Theories/speculation needs to be based on some known fact.

Discussion re puppy mills has been removed as there is absolutely nothing in MSM or from LE to substantiate such speculation.

 

[Sillybilly]

Folks, please remember that it is a violation of TOS to sleuth family members.

Thanks.

 

[Trackergd]

The day prior to the abduction of Linda Stolzfoos - From Criminal Complaint

Times given by the girls are approximate

6/20/2020 13:22:00 JS Purchasing beer
6/20/2020 14:35:00 JS Purchasing alcohol
6/20/2020 17:25:00 JS Purchasing gloves
6/20/2020 19:41:00 JS Driving
6/20/2020 20:00:00 JS Stalking Anna King
6/20/2020 20:00:00 JS Stalking group of girls
6/20/2020 20:30:00 JS Stalking Katie Lantz

Purchasing Alcohol and Gloves (gloves not located), then Stalking Amish Girls.

 

[Trackergd]

The days after the abduction of Linda Stolzfoos - From Criminal Complaint

Most times not noted in criminal complaint

6/22/2020 JS at 3104 Harvest Road
6/23/2020 17:00:00 Report of JS car at 3104 Harvest Road 3 times per cell phone records
6/24/2020 JS at 3104 Harvest Road
6/25/2020 JS at 3104 Harvest Road
6/27/2020 JS at 3104 Harvest Road
7/10/2020 Location of Bra and Socks at 3104 Harvest Road

JS was at this location 7 times per witness and cell phone records (plus one time on the 21st). 8 times for a bra and socks? I don't think so. There may be more at this location or LE has not released all of the forensics information.

 

[Trackergd]

The day of the abduction - From Criminal Complaint

6/21/2020 9:28:00 Walmart, 2034 Lincoln Highway Lancaster, PA JS Walking into store Video
6/21/2020 10:13:00 Dollar General, 3337 E Lincoln Highway Paradise, PA JS Purchasing gloves and laces
6/21/2020 12:04:00 Leola Beverage, 352 W Main Street Leola, PA JS Purchasing beer Bank Statements
6/21/2020 12:16:00 Sheetz, 2425 Old Philadelphia Pike Lancaster, PA JS Putting item(s) in trash Video
6/21/2020 12:22:00 North on Mt. Sidney Road Lancaster, PA JS Driving Video
6/21/2020 12:30:00 East then West on Stumptown Road Bird-In-Hand, PA JS Driving Witness and Video
6/21/2020 12:41:29 Beachdale Road Bird-In-Hand, PA Abduction Video
6/21/2020 12:41:52 South on Beachdale Road Bird-In-Hand, PA JS Driving w/passenger Video
6/21/2020 Weavertown Mennonite School, 73 Orchard Road Bird-In-Hand, PA Behind School 5 min Video
6/21/2020 East on Church Road Bird-In-Hand, PA JS Driving w/passenger Video
6/21/2020 13:30:00 Amish Road and Buena Vista Road Gap, PA JS Driving w/LS Witness
6/21/2020 13:30:00 North on Amish Road Gap, PA JS Driving w/LS Witness
6/21/2020 13:30:00 North on Redwell Road, then East on Peters Road Gap, PA JS Driving w/LS Witness
6/21/2020 15:30:00 3250 Lincoln Highway Ronks, PA JS Washing car + Interior Witness
6/21/2020 14:32:00 3104 Harvest Road Ronks, PA JS at location Cell phone records 14:32 to 15.35

Got the locations faster than I expected. I think JS pulled behind the Weavertown Mennonite School, took the "sack" off and told her that if she yelled or made any signal, he would kill her, then continued on. At some point between 13:30 hours and 15:30 hours, LS is no longer seen. That is only two hours.

 

[Darling136]

Please proceed here for further discussion!

 

[Niner]

Reposting this:


Wednesday, December 30th:
*Preliminary Hearing (re murder) (@ 10am ET) - PA – Linda Stoltzfoos (18) (last seen June 21, 2020, Bird-In-Hand, Lancaster County) – *Justo Roberto Smoker (34) arrested (7/10/20 at work at Dutchland, Inc.), charged (7/11/20) & arraigned (8/24/20) with felony 1st degree kidnapping to inflict injury/terror & misdemeanor false imprisonment. Plead not guilty. Held without bond.
*Charged (12/14/20) & arraigned (12/18/20) with criminal homicide.
Case & court info from 7/11/20 thru 9/24/20 reference post #939 here:
PA - PA - Linda Stoltzfoos, 18, Bird-in-Hand, Lancaster County, 21 June 2020 *kidnapping arrest* #3
11/5/20 Update: Hearing was rescheduled because the prosecution was still gathering materials that it's required to provide to Smoker’s attorneys. Next status hearing on 11/23/20. 11/25/20 Update: Granted motion for continuance.
12/14/20 Update: On Monday, East Lampeter Township police & Pennsylvania State Police, after consultation with the District Attorney’s Office, filed an additional charge – of criminal homicide – against Smoker, who was previously charged with kidnapping Stoltzfoos on June 21, 2020. Arraignment on 12/18/20.
12/18/20 Update: No info on arraignment hearing on murder charge. Next preliminary hearing on 12/30/20 @ 10am before District Judge Denise Cummins.

 

[jenn83]

I thought I was keeping up with this case but I must have missed the part about stalking other Amish girls. Where did this come from?

 

[Fireflize]

The day of the abduction - From Criminal Complaint

6/21/2020 9:28:00 Walmart, 2034 Lincoln Highway Lancaster, PA JS Walking into store Video
6/21/2020 10:13:00 Dollar General, 3337 E Lincoln Highway Paradise, PA JS Purchasing gloves and laces
6/21/2020 12:04:00 Leola Beverage, 352 W Main Street Leola, PA JS Purchasing beer Bank Statements
6/21/2020 12:16:00 Sheetz, 2425 Old Philadelphia Pike Lancaster, PA JS Putting item(s) in trash Video
6/21/2020 12:22:00 North on Mt. Sidney Road Lancaster, PA JS Driving Video
6/21/2020 12:30:00 East then West on Stumptown Road Bird-In-Hand, PA JS Driving Witness and Video
6/21/2020 12:41:29 Beachdale Road Bird-In-Hand, PA Abduction Video
6/21/2020 12:41:52 South on Beachdale Road Bird-In-Hand, PA JS Driving w/passenger Video
6/21/2020 Weavertown Mennonite School, 73 Orchard Road Bird-In-Hand, PA Behind School 5 min Video
6/21/2020 East on Church Road Bird-In-Hand, PA JS Driving w/passenger Video
6/21/2020 13:30:00 Amish Road and Buena Vista Road Gap, PA JS Driving w/LS Witness
6/21/2020 13:30:00 North on Amish Road Gap, PA JS Driving w/LS Witness
6/21/2020 13:30:00 North on Redwell Road, then East on Peters Road Gap, PA JS Driving w/LS Witness
6/21/2020 15:30:00 3250 Lincoln Highway Ronks, PA JS Washing car + Interior Witness
6/21/2020 14:32:00 3104 Harvest Road Ronks, PA JS at location Cell phone records 14:32 to 15.35

Got the locations faster than I expected. I think JS pulled behind the Weavertown Mennonite School, took the "sack" off and told her that if she yelled or made any signal, he would kill her, then continued on. At some point between 13:30 hours and 15:30 hours, LS is no longer seen. That is only two hours.

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Thx Tracker. Does any detail change your idea of areas to search?

 

[Maryland Oracle]

I thought I was keeping up with this case but I must have missed the part about stalking other Amish girls. Where did this come from?

From the criminal complaint.

 

[jenn83]

From the criminal complaint.

Ah ok, I realize now I never read it. Thank you.

 

[Trackergd]

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Thx Tracker. Does any detail change your idea of areas to search?

It seems to indicate two area of interest. Snake Road at Umble's Run (creek) and the business at Harvest Rd. The times and locations limit most other options and locations unless there is a lot LE has not put in the Criminal Complaint.

 

[Maryland Oracle]

Today's court hearing was postponed.

 

[Richrd]

I thought I was keeping up with this case but I must have missed the part about stalking other Amish girls. Where did this come from?

Police Criminal Complaint - [Homicide]:
- Page 9 of 12 >>> #28, 29, & 30 -
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...-11eb-9ab9-33c3e810cfc7/5fe0d2917e9f9.pdf.pdf
- Page 9 of 12 >>> #28, 29, & 30 -
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Saturday Evening, 20 June:
2000 Hrs. = 8 P.M.
2030 Hrs. = 8:30 P.M.
2100 Hrs. = 9:00 P.M.

[Kidnapping said to be Sunday, 21 June]
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[Maryland Oracle]

I'd previously thought that, despite all the searches in the Welsh Mountain, the Police Criminal Complaint made no mention of this area however this is incorrect.

It states in paragraph 41 that following the abduction, JS transported LS "to the eastern side of Lancaster County, to include some remote areas within the Welsh Mountains".

This is at least 10 minutes away by car from the last sighting included in the Criminal Complaint as the car turned right on to Peters Road at approx 1:30pm heading east. Cell phone records show JS at 3104 Harvest Drive at 2:32pm which is approximately 25 minutes away from the Mountain area which would total a minimum of 35 minutes driving time from the 60 minutes between the Peters Road sighting and arriving at Harvest Drive. This doesn't leave much time for whatever he was going there to do.

As others have already mentioned, LE know much more than they're releasing on the Complaint.

Were there further sightings between the Mountain area and Harvest Drive? If so, was there a passenger?

The Complaint refers to cell phone records AND video surveillance that places JS's car at Harvest Drive. What does the video show? Does it show just the Kia Rio at this time?

 

[Trackergd]

This is at least 10 minutes away by car from the last sighting included in the Criminal Complaint as the car turned right on to Peters Road at approx 1:30pm heading east. Cell phone records show JS at 3104 Harvest Drive at 2:32pm which is approximately 25 minutes away from the Mountain area which would total a minimum of 35 minutes driving time from the 60 minutes between the Peters Road sighting and arriving at Harvest Drive. This doesn't leave much time for whatever he was going there to do.

Respectfully snipped and bolded by me.

Exactly. He did not have much time and why I think it's one of the two spots I previously noted. Time limitations virtually preclude any other scenarios. The remains could have been moved a day or two later, but cell phone records (at least the ones noted in the criminal complaint) show him only at Harvest Drive.

 

[mtowntra1]

This case is so confusing with the limited info being released. He has such a small window. There was no mention of him returning to the Welsh Mtns after the abduction that I've seen, but several times at Harvest Dr.

It was mentioned the business owner at Harvest Dr took photos of the inside of Smokers car. What did he see?!

I think Harvest Dr has more significance than they're letting on, but then why so much focus the Welsh Mtns?

I think about Linda and her family every day. I check for updates each day hoping she is located.

 

[Maryland Oracle]

Respectfully snipped and bolded by me.

Exactly. He did not have much time and why I think it's one of the two spots I previously noted. Time limitations virtually preclude any other scenarios. The remains could have been moved a day or two later, but cell phone records (at least the ones noted in the criminal complaint) show him only at Harvest Drive.

The route he took from the abduction site to turning east on Peters Road via all the locations of sightings of the vehicle along the way is meandering however I have a thought that may make sense of it.

He would have turned left on Church Road and then left again into the church parking lot to the rear. Was he looking for the nearest place to attack the poor girl?

Within 5 minutes, perhaps he decided it wasn't private enough (being a Sunday) and thought of somewhere more suitable. He was raised by his adopted parents in Gap therefore might he have thought of Salisbury Elementary School (his first school?) hence the sighting on Buena Vista Road?

Shortly afterwards as he headed east on Peters Road, his remaining goal was to silence and dispose because he had ALREADY attacked her.