Peculiar letters from the RN

[BBB167893]

I think SD's gonna use CASKU as if they're on RDI side for the rest of eternity.

I just like to go back to the beginning, that's all. No more, no less.

Even after the DNA match is found to be owned by a homicidal maniac.

I'll believe it when I see it. And I'm not holding my breath.

 

[BBB167893]

Located just below the right ear at the right angle of the mandible, 1.5 inches below the right external auditory canal is a 3/8 x 1/4 inch area of rust colored abrasion.

The first two are not the same.

They most certainly are. If the fact that they're the same size isn't enough for you, no other source mentions more than one mark on the face. Moreover, the photo shows only the one mark. I'm no fool.

The one below the right ear doesn't fit any RDI scenario thus far. Its an unaddressed injury, correct?

Not really. It has been addressed. Spitz talked about it once, if memory serves.

BTW, lawn mower pulling injury is more candy coating.

The heck it is! I get petechia all the time, and most of the time I don't know from where. Petechia are just pinpoint bleeding under the skin caused by bursting capillaries. They're not hard to get.

Dumbing down JBR's injuries to make it look like they're incidental and RDI, but without actual knowledge of what really happened. Its weak.

I'm not dumbing down anything. In fact, I'm trying to counter the tendency of IDI to make more out of them than they are.

 

[DeeDee249]

The coroner 'speculated' digital penetration, not 'determined'.

The only connection between 'digital penetration' and sexual abuse is the one you're making. The coroner never did that:

"It could be sexual assault with a finger or some object.''
A source close to the case said the assault was the result of digital penetration.

Notice they're using the word 'assault' , not 'abuse'

When it is a 6-year old - it is abuse. What would YOUR definition of digital penetration of a 6-year old be? Assault =abuse. It sounds like your pulling a "Clinton"---depends what your definition of "IS" is.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

When it is a 6-year old - it is abuse. What would YOUR definition of digital penetration of a 6-year old be? Assault =abuse. It sounds like your pulling a "Clinton"---depends what your definition of "IS" is.

Sexual assault is the topic, not child abuse.

The 'digital penetration' is from the sexual assault of that night. Are you going to now explain to me that strangulation and head bashing are also child abuse?

Dont waste your time.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Not really. It has been addressed. Spitz talked about it once, if memory serves.

OK I'll ask about the mark under JBR's ear the two marks on the left lateral lower back, and JBR's fractured skull.

We'll assume for RDI's sake that the strangulation injuries were part of staging. Although this is probably a bad assumption because the coroner says she died from asphyxiation, there's a deep furrow from the cord, and there's related abraisions on her neck. IOW 'staging' of the strangulation goes against the evidence, dumbing it down.

Anyway, how do you suppose JBR's skull got fractured? Also, what caused these other small circular marks (one under her ear, and two on her left lateral lower back)? I've seen these photos, and they are prominent deep colored marks.

 

[BBB167893]

OK I'll ask about the mark under JBR's ear the two marks on the left lateral lower back, and JBR's fractured skull.

Go ahead.

We'll assume for RDI's sake that the strangulation injuries were part of staging.

Fine by me.

Although this is probably a bad assumption because the coroner says she died from asphyxiation, there's a deep furrow from the cord, and there's related abraisions on her neck. IOW 'staging' of the strangulation goes against the evidence, dumbing it down.

The two are not mutually exclusive. Absolutely not.

Anyway, how do you suppose JBR's skull got fractured?

Personally, I think she was thrown into something head-first. Someone mentioned PR having an odd question about JB's bed a while back.

Also, what caused these other small circular marks (one under her ear, and two on her left lateral lower back)? I've seen these photos, and they are prominent deep colored marks.

What caused them? Best guess: from lying on something that pressed into the skin, such as small rocks or clothing snaps, like Spitz said. I've seen the photos, too. Oh, and to answer another question you had, "Why would Spitz even bring up small rocks?" He actually said why: because of the crescent-shapes inside the marks.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Go ahead.



Fine by me.



The two are not mutually exclusive. Absolutely not.



Personally, I think she was thrown into something head-first. Someone mentioned PR having an odd question about JB's bed a while back.



What caused them? Best guess: from lying on something that pressed into the skin, such as small rocks or clothing snaps, like Spitz said. I've seen the photos, too. Oh, and to answer another question you had, "Why would Spitz even bring up small rocks?" He actually said why: because of the crescent-shapes inside the marks.

Interesting.

Thrown into something head first. Thrown implies pushed from behind, or what? Thrown like a ball? Grabbed by the head and flung?

Also interesting is details of the marks. Specifically, the two marks on her left lateral lower back. I noticed there were faint but fairly long lines eminating radially from both marks. I don't know if thats a photographic effect or what. Have a look maybe you wont see them.

 

[BBB167893]

Interesting.

Thrown into something head first. Thrown implies pushed from behind, or what?

Something like that.

Grabbed by the head and flung?

Close. In my theory (and I admit that's all it is at this point--that's not a concession), she was grabbed by the collar or the hair as she was trying to run away and thrown. I also think (THINK, mind you) that the throw was aimed for the bed but was mistimed.

Also interesting is details of the marks. Specifically, the two marks on her left lateral lower back. I noticed there were faint but fairly long lines eminating radially from both marks. I don't know if thats a photographic effect or what. Have a look maybe you wont see them.

Well, I've not seen them yet, and I've been over those photos several times.

 

[DeeDee249]

I just can't think of what in that bedroom would have made a hole in her skull like that. The bedpost could fracture a skull, sure, but not punch a hole. I totally can imagine her being grabbed by the shirt and that may have been what made the triangular abrasion on her throat.
I'll have to go back and look at the photo of her bedroom.

 

[DeeDee249]

OK, I went back to ACR and looked at the Crime Scene section and found the photo of JB's bed. Those twin beds were vintage English burled walnut. If you look at the footboard, amid the clutter, you can see the footboard has bedposts (low ones, not high like the headboard) that have finials that appear to have a carved protrusion (like a knob) on them. If she was slammed VERY hard down against one, it could possibly have caused the depressed skull fracture.

 

[DotsEyes]

I think the hole in her skull was caused by a hockey puck being struck with either a hockey stick or a golf club.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Bedposts and hockey pucks. Its anybody's guess. The operative word being 'guess'.

We could make a more educated guess, though. The DNA strongly suggests an unknown male sexually assaulted JBR. Dont take my word for it, that is the current momentum that the case actually has (RDI has lost any momentum).

It follows from the sexual assault by unknown male that the injuries to JBR's head and neck and elsewhere, were the effects of a brutal murder. Its more likely JBR was struck with a blunt instrument that, like many other items, cannot be sourced to the house. This is not surprising in the IDI scenario, as many items can be brought in and taken out.

A good sign for RDI that this is the case is LE failure to locate the blunt instrument or surface that JBR hit her head on. LE failure to locate cord or tape remnants or rolls, pineapple containers, or handwriting match. These failures, AND the existence of unknown male DNA is all part and parcel of IDI.

 

[BBB167893]

It follows from the sexual assault by unknown male that the injuries to JBR's head and neck and elsewhere, were the effects of a brutal murder.

I would agree with that, if the sexual assault had been real.

LE failure to locate cord or tape remnants or rolls, pineapple containers, or handwriting match.

Those "failures" wouldn't have happened LE in Boulder actually had the GUTS to issue the proper warrants or actually stand behind their experts instead of undercutting them.

Folks, a lot of people refer to this case as a miscarriage of justice.

It wasn't a miscarriage. It was an abortion.

 

[DeeDee249]

The blunt instrument could have been the golf club- which LE allowed to be removed from the crime scene ( located literally FEET from where the body was found) in an unsupervised raid on the home by PR's sister. It could also have been the bat, which the Rs eventually admitted was BR's after all. It could have been the bedpost. But as forensic testing was done on NONE of these potential murder weapons, we'll never know.

The pineapple container was likely thrown away by PR after being put in PR's serving bowl. I for one, do not keep containers like that- I put food in my own containers and throw away or recycle what the food came in.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Folks, a lot of people refer to this case as a miscarriage of justice.

Folks, a lot MORE people refer to the unknown male DNA.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

The blunt instrument could have been the golf club- which LE allowed to be removed from the crime scene ( located literally FEET from where the body was found) in an unsupervised raid on the home by PR's sister. It could also have been the bat, which the Rs eventually admitted was BR's after all. It could have been the bedpost. But as forensic testing was done on NONE of these potential murder weapons, we'll never know.

The pineapple container was likely thrown away by PR after being put in PR's serving bowl. I for one, do not keep containers like that- I put food in my own containers and throw away or recycle what the food came in.

Coulda woulda shoulda.

The DNA could be owned by a stranger. Wait, it IS owned by a stranger. Its not owned by an R. Oh boy if it were you gotta know where RDI would go with that... to a real live court case with R's as defendants and everything. Just like RDI was always asking about the FIBER, then they'd have been asking HOW DID R DNA GET INTO JBR"S UNDERPANTS MIXED WITH HER BLOOD AND SAME ON THE LONGJOHN WAISTBAND. Same argument as fibers in the paint tote, huh??).

Whether R or unknown male DNA, it could be innocent transfer, but only if you believe in astronomical probabilities.

 

[GingBreade]

Bedposts and hockey pucks. Its anybody's guess. The operative word being 'guess'.

We could make a more educated guess, though. The DNA strongly suggests an unknown male sexually assaulted JBR. Dont take my word for it, that is the current momentum that the case actually has (RDI has lost any momentum).

It follows from the sexual assault by unknown male that the injuries to JBR's head and neck and elsewhere, were the effects of a brutal murder. Its more likely JBR was struck with a blunt instrument that, like many other items, cannot be sourced to the house. This is not surprising in the IDI scenario, as many items can be brought in and taken out.

A good sign for RDI that this is the case is LE failure to locate the blunt instrument or surface that JBR hit her head on. LE failure to locate cord or tape remnants or rolls, pineapple containers, or handwriting match. These failures, AND the existence of unknown male DNA is all part and parcel of IDI.

The DNA strongly suggests an unknown male sexually assaulted JBR.

Ok Holdon. Exactly how did this unknown male sexually assault JBR? Did he have sex with her? If not, what did he do exactly?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

The DNA strongly suggests an unknown male sexually assaulted JBR.

Ok Holdon. Exactly how did this unknown male sexually assault JBR? Did he have sex with her? If not, what did he do exactly?

It was generally agreed that JBR was a victim of sexual assault, even before foreign DNA was found there.

RDI explains the sexual assault as part of staging designed to somehow coverup prior abuse. However, the minor aspect of the sexual assault belies that claim.

The nature of the sexual assault is subject to speculation. I suppose that with pedophiles and child pornographers motives to consider, there are probably a hundred possibilities. What did he do exactly? I don't know. Anybody who claims to know exactly what happened is probably just making up stories. Further, anybody who claims there were no pedophile or child *advertiser censored* motives involved the night of the murder is disregarding the facts of the case.

 

[DeeDee249]

The coroner said it looked like digital penetration.

The fibers in the paint tote are suspicious, of course. Patsy said she had never worn that jacket in the basement. But it is Patsy's fibers on the tape and in the garrote knot that places her with a DEAD/DYING JB and certainly a post-head bash JB.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

The coroner said it looked like digital penetration.

The fibers in the paint tote are suspicious, of course. Patsy said she had never worn that jacket in the basement. But it is Patsy's fibers on the tape and in the garrote knot that places her with a DEAD/DYING JB and certainly a post-head bash JB.

Unknown male DNA mixed with blood and on her waistband places the male with JBR while being sexually assaulted. This is far more compelling, more incriminating than the fibers. Don't take my word for it. The unknown male DNA is all over the news and was the reason the R's were exhonerated.