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Could he have been trying to access her VM at that time after placing his sim card in her phone?
I doubt SA even knows what a SIM card is ...
Could he have been trying to access her VM at that time after placing his sim card in her phone?
BigCityAccountant ~ we know you can access VM from another phone. Her brother did that on November 3rd, he said so in his testimony. What was in question was that someone accessed and deleted voicemails on November 2nd. She wasn't even reported missing on November 2nd! So, someone accessing her VM would seem somewhat suspicious, no?
The judge, cuz ya know, he was fair and all.... said it wasn't relevant.
I apologize if the points I am bringing up have been discussed...I try not to be repetitive.
I am curious about how Teresa's communications were set up. AutoTrader employees testified they communicated fax, e-mail, and phone. Dawn testified Teresa had left a message requesting her to fax the lead (Avery's) while she had been at lunch. How would Teresa received the fax? On her phone? Or was she still at home slightly after lunch time? Did she receive email on her phone? Not many smart phones in 2005.
Next, is it possible people could have been leaving her Voice Mails but not calling her directly? For example, from what is shown she accessed VM @ 11:04 and 11:27 for some duration but there wasn't any calls recorded between the times.
I am really curious how her day played out on the 31st. Dawn also testified she didn't usually work past 1:00. Yet the appointments we know of that day were all afternoon. Did she have appointments that morning? Where were they?
Could it be when she told Dawn she was heading there now (Avery Brothers) she was really just then heading from the Green Bay area to Manitowoc area? Thus making the 3:30 (when bus driver said she saw her) more plausible?
While I am chiming in I did want to mention...I had a Tracphone for years. I might call people from Trac but left message to call my landline. Most didn't they would call back to my tracphone. I didn't think of it then but I sure wish I would have thought of using *67. I could have saved myself a ton of money in minutes (or units).
Thanks for any info you can add.![]()
I replied in the other threadI'm surprised that we have not seen more about the calls ... on either side. I would like to see if it really was a habit for SA to use *67 when phoning people that weren't gov't or family/friends.
Maybe there was a pretrial ruling on it.
ok...I promise to get off of my phone call kick after this last post.....If you look at TH's cell records, we know the call at 2:12 or 2:13 was to Zipperer because she was lost...I'm going to be strictly looking at the I cell data...when she was in the Two Rivers/Maintowoc area the ICell starts with 219....but before that all of the calls start with a 211 ICell, then she goes back into a 211 ICell at 2:41pm---so my question is at 2:41pm was she heading back home? I think the 1:52pm call was to the New Hostein guy (I think his name was Schmitz or something like that) and the ICell was 21103 the 2:41pm call is ICell 21101.
Actually I would say we don't know that the 2:12 phone call was about being lost. Did they ever introduce the message that was supposedly left on the GZ's voicemail or answering machine. Not that I heard. This is the only call to GZ's residence so I ask you if this is in fact a call she made when she was supposedly lost, when did she make the call to GZ's to set the appointment time, as she did with the two other appointments that day. That 2:12pm call could have been her calling them to set the time, possibly after going to SA's place. There is still the matter of drive times from where the first appointment to the second which ever it was, SA or GZ. You see at 12:51 she called SS and said she would be there around 1:30. He said she was there between 1:30-1:45pm. Had she still been at home before leaving to this first appointment, it would put that drive just about 30 mins bringing her to SS's at about 1:30. From that 1st address to GZ is estimated on google maps at 45 mins. From that 1st address to the Avery Yard is about 55 minutes. So she makes that call at 2:12pm to GZ unknown reason why. Then SA calls her *67 at 2:24pm Then at 2:27 she is called by Auto Trader receptionist DP, who claims she said she was headed out to the Avery Brothers. Then SA calls her *67 at 2:35pm but hangs up right away. These times being mentioned lets go back to the drive times. 1:45 to GZ's Residence at 45mins. 2:30pm would be approximate arrival time. Had she gone to Avery's before GZ's the drive time from the first appointment would be 1:45pm a 55minute drive would put TH arriving at SA around 2:40pm. Had she arrived actually at SA's around the time he was about to call her again at 2:35 and saw her come in this could explain why he never let it connect to her phone. Either way she could not have been in two places at once.
Mrs. Zipperer testified that there was a call that TH was lost--she was outside and didn't get the call until supper time. That call is documented in the exhibit Kratz perpared. We also know that she was 10 minutes away when Auto Trader called. Both of those call place her in the ICell starting with 219...but the 2:41pm call is in the ICell 211. I'm just going by what Kratz prepared as an exhibit.
ok...but we know she was in the area at 2:12pm when she made the call. She was looking for the place---that would put her in the ICell starting with 219....but...then at 2:41 she is in the ICell starting with 211. Since B Janda didn't confirm the appointment she would start heading home, right? That would put her in the 211 ICell if she was heading home. So taking google maps, depending on what route she took--from 2:27pm to 2:41pm would be 14 minutes, which could of put her west of I43, back into the ICell starting with 211.
Then if she turned around and went to Avery's that would put her at Avery's 35 minutes later or about 3:00pm.
ok...but we know she was in the area at 2:12pm when she made the call. She was looking for the place---that would put her in the ICell starting with 219....but...then at 2:41 she is in the ICell starting with 211. Since B Janda didn't confirm the appointment she would start heading home, right? That would put her in the 211 ICell if she was heading home. So taking google maps, depending on what route she took--from 2:27pm to 2:41pm would be 14 minutes, which could of put her west of I43, back into the ICell starting with 211.
Then if she turned around and went to Avery's that would put her at Avery's 35 minutes later or about 3:00pm.