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I keep thinking of how Cindy must be handling being -- for the first time since KC left with Caylee -- alone in that house for an extended period of time. George in the hospital. Lee in Tampa working at the SuperBowl. It's just her in that house with her thoughts. A great line in a song goes, "all your fears and worries attack when you're alone." And it's true. She's in that house all by herself, used to the people around her nodding yes and saying "mm-hmmm" to her delusional KC-is-innocent theories, and placating her control-freak manner. And noone is there. Just her and her fears and worries. Attacking. I'm trying to be a more sympathetic person (new years resolution), so I'm fighting the feeling that some glimmer of justice is being served. MOO.
 
I keep thinking of how Cindy must be handling being -- for the first time since KC left with Caylee -- alone in that house for an extended period of time. George in the hospital. Lee in Tampa working at the SuperBowl. It's just her in that house with her thoughts. A great line in a song goes, "all your fears and worries attack when you're alone." And it's true. She's in that house all by herself, used to the people around her nodding yes and saying "mm-hmmm" to her delusional KC-is-innocent theories, and placating her control-freak manner. And noone is there. Just her and her fears and worries. Attacking. I'm trying to be a more sympathetic person (new years resolution), so I'm fighting the feeling that some glimmer of justice is being served. MOO.

Do we know that Cindy doesn't have someone staying with her?
 
Respectfully,
George could very well be suffering from chronic depression. This could be the reason he can't hold a job. It's not being weak.There is a chemical imbalance in the brain and it rules your life,just like multiple sclerosis or diabetes.The difference is the STIGMA and NAME CALLING attached to it ,which keeps people from getting help.They also consider it a weakness or flaw.I repeat:It keeps people from getting help. Once you experience it you understand the hold true chronic depression has and you no longer JUDGE people as weak or lazy.
I try to be as open as I can about my child's suicide to fight the stigma.My son was awesome,but he didn't believe it.I am upfront about my resulting depression and medication for the same reason. The strongest,brightest,most productive people in the world can be stopped in their tracks by chronic depression.

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It seems that there are two extreme opinions within this post and I am somewhat in the middle.

While I have a lot of compassion for anyone whom has lost a loved one nor would I never want anyone to commit suicide .... I have not witnessed behavior on anyone within these family that should rid them of negative feedback. Of coarse ...not as it relates specifically to the suicide issue ... but about the case and their behavior.

I have never been put in their position and hope I never will. However, I have been put in less desired circumstances such as ones that involve life / death and difficult choices all of which were negative (relates to someone stalking my family O.o). Anyway, it all comes down to what a mentor of mine told me a long time ago. Something like 'we have to play the game of life with the cards we been given'. Many times the deck of cards are overwhelmingly against us but then again how we respond during these times defines our true character.

So, my point is I feel uncomfortable for opinions on either extreme about others opinion of George or the family. There is sorry .... yet a lack of compassion as it relates to their behavior in these difficult times.

Please don't mistake my compassion for George's suicidal gesture as my agreeing with anything he has done since Caylee died. I don't think George has been a "good man" in a very long time.
 
And this thread has been a perfect example demonstrating the sentence above.

There are ways to express an opinion about the A's actions and in-actions without further stigmatizing what constitutes a 'plea for help' just because you don't like someone's behavior in other regards.

It's been a disappointment to read some of what's been written here. There is bashing - then there is BASHING.

Luckily, opinions come in all shapes and sizes: the informed, the un-informed, the politic, not so politic and the diplomatic, rants and raves, educated and lacking in common sense.

And it is up to the reader to choose how they'll interpret each post.

I choose to interpret yours as a wise, diplomatic, informed, educated rant.

And I thank you for it.

:blowkiss:

I heart you!
 
:clap: Very well said!! And I'm so sorry about your son.

OLG - I completely agree with you! :blowkiss:

Get well, George. There are so many people out there who care about your well-being.

hey girl!! :blowkiss:
 
I pray she does because frankly, I don't think she is safe from herself either at this point.

I've thought all along that Cindy was the one to worry about, but I believe now that her denial and the anger resulting from that denial has kept her strong. Now that it appears the A's are beginning to accept the truth, I'm back to worrying.
 
I've thought all along that Cindy was the one to worry about, but I believe now that her denial and the anger resulting from that denial has kept her strong. Now that it appears the A's are beginning to accept the truth, I'm back to worrying.

I thought so too about Cindy! I was worried about George losing his temper and ending up in jail to be honest. This is a family of very disturbed people- each needs their own "treatment" IMO.
 
One of the most dangerous drugs one can OD with is plain old tylenol - can cause massive, irreparable liver damage.

So easy to obtain, and so often used in attempts.

YUP and people think it's a myth about tylenol!! I did more damage with a Tylenol OD than a Klonopin and Seroquel OD.
 
Ok...I've read the thread, bit my lip a few times and thought a lot about this situation with GA. I agree with a lot that's been said and I disagree with a lot that has been said. I don't have to work to hard to imagine the psychological pathology that this man has developed after spending years being married to a domineering wife, putting up with his lying daughter, being the first one to realize that something was horribly wrong when he picked the car up, knowing that his daughter killed the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally, the lying and coverup that insued at his wife's insistence, the thought that they will probably be arrested for OJ, etc.

This has been building up in GA for quite a while. Some of it long before KC killed Caylee. His coping mechanisms have been to go along with the flow and not make waves, being a yes man to his wife and daughter, dabbling in gambling and other things. His one little refuge of sanity was Caylee. He could be JoJo, grandpa, he could pull her around the neighborhood in a red wagon, she never judged him or belittled him, she just loved him.

His daughter took that away from him. He knew the minute he opened up that car door at the tow yard that Caylee was dead and that KC was more than likely the killer. His interviews with LE and FBI are very interesting. He knows he's being recorded, he knows what he says will be played on TV or the very least at court, he knows CA will hear exactly everything he says. He's trying to say so much to LE without really coming out and saying it because he knows, if he does, there will be a volcanic eruption at home.

George falls back on his coping mechanism of just going along with the flow, agreeing with CA, not making any waves, kissing everyone's patootie. This seems to work on the exterior but all you have to do is look into his eyes, he knows the truth, he wants to tell the truth, he cannot come out and say it and keep what's left of his world intact.

George reached his breaking point shortly after this last doc dump. I'm just guessing here but I would imagine it was the heart sticker. As upset as it made us here, imagine George's thought process when he hears this and he knows exactly what sticker sheet that sticker came off of. There's no hiding it now, he knows he cannot stand the lies any more. George makes a plan.

Being ex-LE, George is probably a little familiar with the mental health laws that all states have. They might differ a little from state to state but they are essentially the same. George knows if he can make a break away from the toxicity that is the Anthony family right now, he might have a chance to start an heal. He knows he can at least get 72 hrs away from them. He leaves, checks into the seedy motel, starts texting suicidal intentions, has a couple of beers, sits back and waits for LE to find him. Probably flushes his sleeping pills down the toilet cause he doesn't really want to kill himself, he just wants help getting through all of this and help getting away from the toxic family.

The Anthony ship hit an iceberg last July and has been slowly sinking ever since. KC, CA and LA aren't even willing to admit the ship hit an iceberg. George knows the ship is going to sink. Even though he stays way too long, he finally is able to jump overboard into a lifeboat called "The Baker Act". I really think you will see George come out of the hospital a changed man. I think he will stand up for truth and justice for Caylee. He has wanted to all along but has just now freed himself from the incumberances that kept him on that sinking ship of lies.

My opinion as always.

Great post!
 
Ok...I've read the thread, bit my lip a few times and thought a lot about this situation with GA. I agree with a lot that's been said and I disagree with a lot that has been said. I don't have to work to hard to imagine the psychological pathology that this man has developed after spending years being married to a domineering wife, putting up with his lying daughter, being the first one to realize that something was horribly wrong when he picked the car up, knowing that his daughter killed the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally, the lying and coverup that insued at his wife's insistence, the thought that they will probably be arrested for OJ, etc.

This has been building up in GA for quite a while. Some of it long before KC killed Caylee. His coping mechanisms have been to go along with the flow and not make waves, being a yes man to his wife and daughter, dabbling in gambling and other things. His one little refuge of sanity was Caylee. He could be JoJo, grandpa, he could pull her around the neighborhood in a red wagon, she never judged him or belittled him, she just loved him.

His daughter took that away from him. He knew the minute he opened up that car door at the tow yard that Caylee was dead and that KC was more than likely the killer. His interviews with LE and FBI are very interesting. He knows he's being recorded, he knows what he says will be played on TV or the very least at court, he knows CA will hear exactly everything he says. He's trying to say so much to LE without really coming out and saying it because he knows, if he does, there will be a volcanic eruption at home.

George falls back on his coping mechanism of just going along with the flow, agreeing with CA, not making any waves, kissing everyone's patootie. This seems to work on the exterior but all you have to do is look into his eyes, he knows the truth, he wants to tell the truth, he cannot come out and say it and keep what's left of his world intact.

George reached his breaking point shortly after this last doc dump. I'm just guessing here but I would imagine it was the heart sticker. As upset as it made us here, imagine George's thought process when he hears this and he knows exactly what sticker sheet that sticker came off of. There's no hiding it now, he knows he cannot stand the lies any more. George makes a plan.

Being ex-LE, George is probably a little familiar with the mental health laws that all states have. They might differ a little from state to state but they are essentially the same. George knows if he can make a break away from the toxicity that is the Anthony family right now, he might have a chance to start an heal. He knows he can at least get 72 hrs away from them. He leaves, checks into the seedy motel, starts texting suicidal intentions, has a couple of beers, sits back and waits for LE to find him. Probably flushes his sleeping pills down the toilet cause he doesn't really want to kill himself, he just wants help getting through all of this and help getting away from the toxic family.

The Anthony ship hit an iceberg last July and has been slowly sinking ever since. KC, CA and LA aren't even willing to admit the ship hit an iceberg. George knows the ship is going to sink. Even though he stays way too long, he finally is able to jump overboard into a lifeboat called "The Baker Act". I really think you will see George come out of the hospital a changed man. I think he will stand up for truth and justice for Caylee. He has wanted to all along but has just now freed himself from the incumberances that kept him on that sinking ship of lies.

My opinion as always.

bump because it's a great post and say's what I wanted to say only better.
 
Ok...I've read the thread, bit my lip a few times and thought a lot about this situation with GA. I agree with a lot that's been said and I disagree with a lot that has been said. I don't have to work to hard to imagine the psychological pathology that this man has developed after spending years being married to a domineering wife, putting up with his lying daughter, being the first one to realize that something was horribly wrong when he picked the car up, knowing that his daughter killed the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally, the lying and coverup that insued at his wife's insistence, the thought that they will probably be arrested for OJ, etc.

This has been building up in GA for quite a while. Some of it long before KC killed Caylee. His coping mechanisms have been to go along with the flow and not make waves, being a yes man to his wife and daughter, dabbling in gambling and other things. His one little refuge of sanity was Caylee. He could be JoJo, grandpa, he could pull her around the neighborhood in a red wagon, she never judged him or belittled him, she just loved him.

His daughter took that away from him. He knew the minute he opened up that car door at the tow yard that Caylee was dead and that KC was more than likely the killer. His interviews with LE and FBI are very interesting. He knows he's being recorded, he knows what he says will be played on TV or the very least at court, he knows CA will hear exactly everything he says. He's trying to say so much to LE without really coming out and saying it because he knows, if he does, there will be a volcanic eruption at home.

George falls back on his coping mechanism of just going along with the flow, agreeing with CA, not making any waves, kissing everyone's patootie. This seems to work on the exterior but all you have to do is look into his eyes, he knows the truth, he wants to tell the truth, he cannot come out and say it and keep what's left of his world intact.

George reached his breaking point shortly after this last doc dump. I'm just guessing here but I would imagine it was the heart sticker. As upset as it made us here, imagine George's thought process when he hears this and he knows exactly what sticker sheet that sticker came off of. There's no hiding it now, he knows he cannot stand the lies any more. George makes a plan.

Being ex-LE, George is probably a little familiar with the mental health laws that all states have. They might differ a little from state to state but they are essentially the same. George knows if he can make a break away from the toxicity that is the Anthony family right now, he might have a chance to start an heal. He knows he can at least get 72 hrs away from them. He leaves, checks into the seedy motel, starts texting suicidal intentions, has a couple of beers, sits back and waits for LE to find him. Probably flushes his sleeping pills down the toilet cause he doesn't really want to kill himself, he just wants help getting through all of this and help getting away from the toxic family.

The Anthony ship hit an iceberg last July and has been slowly sinking ever since. KC, CA and LA aren't even willing to admit the ship hit an iceberg. George knows the ship is going to sink. Even though he stays way too long, he finally is able to jump overboard into a lifeboat called "The Baker Act". I really think you will see George come out of the hospital a changed man. I think he will stand up for truth and justice for Caylee. He has wanted to all along but has just now freed himself from the incumberances that kept him on that sinking ship of lies.

My opinion as always.

Very well thought out post...

Whether GA really intended to end his life or not (we may never really know)...but, there is little doubt that this SA was his intention to jump the CA ship & maybe to get back to doing the right thing for his own sanity...not to mention out of respect for Caylee's memory.

My opinion is that it's never too late to do the right thing!
 
Seems to me that George thinks it would be easier to die than to get his butt out there and get a job. Life goes on and bills need to be paid to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table, but George thinks Cindy would be better off if he was dead....and I agree with him....because then she'd be able to collect his SS which would help pay the bills to live which he is not willing to do.

Many here see George as this upstanding guy and Cindy as a witch, but I see that George would have long ago ended his life if he didn't have Cindy to leach off of and to take care of him. George knows he's been a terrible husband and father, but instead of making it better, he desired to take the easiest way out for himself. If I was Cindy, I'd not go see him either because I would hate his guts for doing this. He's a weakling and has always been a weakling!

May you never go through what George has been thru. May you never wake up in the morning and dread the day that confronts you because your life has been destroyed......over something you have no control over.
May you never wish that it was bedtime so you could just go to bed and forget for a few hours all the horrids you have been thru. But if you ever do, (and I hope you don't)then you will truly understand. Life can and does change in the twinkling of an eye....None is exempt.

Depression is a hopeless feeling with no end in sight...like cancer it eats away at you. God Bless you, George Anthony.

Compassion.....what a wonderful attribute.
 
Ok...I've read the thread, bit my lip a few times and thought a lot about this situation with GA. I agree with a lot that's been said and I disagree with a lot that has been said. I don't have to work to hard to imagine the psychological pathology that this man has developed after spending years being married to a domineering wife, putting up with his lying daughter, being the first one to realize that something was horribly wrong when he picked the car up, knowing that his daughter killed the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally, the lying and coverup that insued at his wife's insistence, the thought that they will probably be arrested for OJ, etc.

This has been building up in GA for quite a while. Some of it long before KC killed Caylee. His coping mechanisms have been to go along with the flow and not make waves, being a yes man to his wife and daughter, dabbling in gambling and other things. His one little refuge of sanity was Caylee. He could be JoJo, grandpa, he could pull her around the neighborhood in a red wagon, she never judged him or belittled him, she just loved him.

His daughter took that away from him. He knew the minute he opened up that car door at the tow yard that Caylee was dead and that KC was more than likely the killer. His interviews with LE and FBI are very interesting. He knows he's being recorded, he knows what he says will be played on TV or the very least at court, he knows CA will hear exactly everything he says. He's trying to say so much to LE without really coming out and saying it because he knows, if he does, there will be a volcanic eruption at home.

George falls back on his coping mechanism of just going along with the flow, agreeing with CA, not making any waves, kissing everyone's patootie. This seems to work on the exterior but all you have to do is look into his eyes, he knows the truth, he wants to tell the truth, he cannot come out and say it and keep what's left of his world intact.

George reached his breaking point shortly after this last doc dump. I'm just guessing here but I would imagine it was the heart sticker. As upset as it made us here, imagine George's thought process when he hears this and he knows exactly what sticker sheet that sticker came off of. There's no hiding it now, he knows he cannot stand the lies any more. George makes a plan.

Being ex-LE, George is probably a little familiar with the mental health laws that all states have. They might differ a little from state to state but they are essentially the same. George knows if he can make a break away from the toxicity that is the Anthony family right now, he might have a chance to start an heal. He knows he can at least get 72 hrs away from them. He leaves, checks into the seedy motel, starts texting suicidal intentions, has a couple of beers, sits back and waits for LE to find him. Probably flushes his sleeping pills down the toilet cause he doesn't really want to kill himself, he just wants help getting through all of this and help getting away from the toxic family.

The Anthony ship hit an iceberg last July and has been slowly sinking ever since. KC, CA and LA aren't even willing to admit the ship hit an iceberg. George knows the ship is going to sink. Even though he stays way too long, he finally is able to jump overboard into a lifeboat called "The Baker Act". I really think you will see George come out of the hospital a changed man. I think he will stand up for truth and justice for Caylee. He has wanted to all along but has just now freed himself from the incumberances that kept him on that sinking ship of lies.

My opinion as always.

WOW! That was such an insightful post. ITA with the entire post, and you said it so eloquently too. Please tell your wife what a lucky woman she is to have such an understanding, compassionate, and intelligent guy as you! :)
 
i heard the ga interview where he says please call me I dont want to believe that i have made someone who could do this but if it is please call me so i can prepare my wife becasue she will kill casey
I honestly think that fathers day fight is why cindy defends her, the guilt over not having her arrested, not taking caylee away, I cant imagine what cindy really thinks
cindy has had to have had some sort of conversation with george that she thinks casey did it or why would he say that to the police?

the fact that george is a or was a cop/detective, he knew when he smelled the car caylee was dead
and thats before he ever was told she was missing
 
Ok...I've read the thread, bit my lip a few times and thought a lot about this situation with GA. I agree with a lot that's been said and I disagree with a lot that has been said. I don't have to work to hard to imagine the psychological pathology that this man has developed after spending years being married to a domineering wife, putting up with his lying daughter, being the first one to realize that something was horribly wrong when he picked the car up, knowing that his daughter killed the one person in his life that loved him unconditionally, the lying and coverup that insued at his wife's insistence, the thought that they will probably be arrested for OJ, etc.

This has been building up in GA for quite a while. Some of it long before KC killed Caylee. His coping mechanisms have been to go along with the flow and not make waves, being a yes man to his wife and daughter, dabbling in gambling and other things. His one little refuge of sanity was Caylee. He could be JoJo, grandpa, he could pull her around the neighborhood in a red wagon, she never judged him or belittled him, she just loved him.

His daughter took that away from him. He knew the minute he opened up that car door at the tow yard that Caylee was dead and that KC was more than likely the killer. His interviews with LE and FBI are very interesting. He knows he's being recorded, he knows what he says will be played on TV or the very least at court, he knows CA will hear exactly everything he says. He's trying to say so much to LE without really coming out and saying it because he knows, if he does, there will be a volcanic eruption at home.

George falls back on his coping mechanism of just going along with the flow, agreeing with CA, not making any waves, kissing everyone's patootie. This seems to work on the exterior but all you have to do is look into his eyes, he knows the truth, he wants to tell the truth, he cannot come out and say it and keep what's left of his world intact.

George reached his breaking point shortly after this last doc dump. I'm just guessing here but I would imagine it was the heart sticker. As upset as it made us here, imagine George's thought process when he hears this and he knows exactly what sticker sheet that sticker came off of. There's no hiding it now, he knows he cannot stand the lies any more. George makes a plan.

Being ex-LE, George is probably a little familiar with the mental health laws that all states have. They might differ a little from state to state but they are essentially the same. George knows if he can make a break away from the toxicity that is the Anthony family right now, he might have a chance to start an heal. He knows he can at least get 72 hrs away from them. He leaves, checks into the seedy motel, starts texting suicidal intentions, has a couple of beers, sits back and waits for LE to find him. Probably flushes his sleeping pills down the toilet cause he doesn't really want to kill himself, he just wants help getting through all of this and help getting away from the toxic family.

The Anthony ship hit an iceberg last July and has been slowly sinking ever since. KC, CA and LA aren't even willing to admit the ship hit an iceberg. George knows the ship is going to sink. Even though he stays way too long, he finally is able to jump overboard into a lifeboat called "The Baker Act". I really think you will see George come out of the hospital a changed man. I think he will stand up for truth and justice for Caylee. He has wanted to all along but has just now freed himself from the incumberances that kept him on that sinking ship of lies.

My opinion as always.

Bolded and colored by me....I just posted on another thread after staying off for a week about just this thought. I think George was brilliant in what he did. If he took that much of his "cocktail" why didn't he go straight out in an ambulance rather than be just driven into the psyche ward on his own two feet?. Isn't that how it went down?

Because of HIPPA laws and confidentiality, can he just spill out the truth or his true feelings and get it out of himself without retribution? He is in the best place he can be for his own spirit.

Incredible post.
 
Bolded and colored by me....I just posted on another thread after staying off for a week about just this thought. I think George was brilliant in what he did. If he took that much of his "cocktail" why didn't he go straight out in an ambulance rather than be just driven into the psyche ward on his own two feet?. Isn't that how it went down?

Because of HIPPA laws and confidentiality, can he just spill out the truth or his true feelings and get it out of himself without retribution? He is in the best place he can be for his own spirit.

Incredible post.

I don't know .... those hippa laws at times in this case seem a tad underused especially for the psych dx and such......I've been amazed at what has been released vs. what in actuallity can be released....(i.e., him actually being in a hospital.....)
 
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