Poll for the Armchair Psychologists

[human]

Here is someone who played her cards right

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/04/local/la-me-barbara-piasecka-johnson-20130405

 

[Linda7NJ]

Yes. I think she probably fits the others.

Although, I cannot see where she is charming. No one has said that, have they? She is very unappealing and everyone except Travis, Matt, Gus, and DB think she is not appealing.

As far as Bobby, she was awfully young so that one I have to throw out as kids live that way.

She did not want to do the sales for PPL. Who can blame her on that? Not me.
I do not look at that as unmotivated. I am not a sales person. No way, no how. That does not make me lazy.

As far as the juvenile delinquency, we know about the pot. I am not into that one bit and I would not be happy if my kid did it, but it really is minor.

I would expect to see some juvie trouble. Was any disclosed?

The stalking, etc does not seem psychopath to me, as in she stalked to kill them.

I answered in the questionnaire that she was nuts. That is my professional verified position.

She is soooooo into herself. She cannot see others. It is all about her.

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We know about pot, cutting school, stealing a car, dropping out of high school, hitting her mother, leaving home as a minor.

Sales isn't for everyone, I totally agree. She CLAIMED she was interested in it. That was a ruse. IMO

 

[Gecko100]

I've followed some of your other posts and you've clearly said you are English and you sprinkled plenty of anti American sentiments. Aka your posts on the Amanda Knox thread. Own yourself.

Also, when dealing with Mexico as your states south border is dicey. If you know anything about Mexico, you know how ridiculous their president is. He actually puts out brochures that show his own people how to successfully sneak into the US border. He likes getting that under the table US currency that flows across the border via illegal immigration.

Kind of hard to find a way to get identification cards/records when dealing with that quagmire.

No, I am not English, but this is a great example of how research can lead you up a garden path and you can still get it wrong.
Why do you even care about my heritage?
Does my 'heritage' convey something that might attract bullying?
Or is my heritage somehow rebellious of mainstream neo-conservative thinking? Does my perceived 'Englishness' tell you something about me that makes you and others think they know me and can therefore judge me?
Do you see where I'm going with this?

Yes I know all about Mexico and how it's citizens are treated. I also know what it feels like to be bullied by Americans, and you can read about it here. Everyone just proves my point and it leads me further away from having any idea what disorder JA has. Bullying appears endemic looking at other forums, how miserable it all is...sigh
Like I said, we are looking at the dialectical discourse of Platonic Metaxy, so issues are either or.
It is full of opposing forces and the debate here is full of it. Note how it becomes very personalised.
I can easily extrapolate from implicit and explicit messages the dynamic between TA and JA.
It is re-enacted right here on this board.
If we are dealing with meta-modernism - and we are, a trial beamed daily into the world via satellite becomes everybody's, not just Americans. It's in my office, and in hundreds of places all around the world.
Expecting no response from the rest of the world is very narrow thinking, not wide and intuitive, or even deep.
Scientific explanations are only one side of a story, and things are not black or white. We are still doing thesis and antithesis, but meta-modernism has just started so people might not even be aware of it's influences yet, the now old fashioned post-modern argument has gone and thank heavens for that. The post-modern argument is keen on evidence based practice, which is just as nutty as the DSM.
Neo-conservative traditionalist practices that dislike having the gender and power roles exposed. Not hard to spot.
Neither is the blatant bullying, adults should act responsibly regarding their behaviour and bullying is neither productive or helpful, most of us learned about that in primary school. We don't tolerate it for our children (I hope), but should you be inclined that way, here is a rare treat. There you go, I linked some information
chttp://www.bullyonline.org/index.htmhildren

 

[Linda7NJ]

As far as not paying on the mortgage any,ore, it could be she saw a sinking ship. No point., no way to save it.

She was going to go into real estate, though.

We have to go back five or more years when people were making money on houses with nothing down. I am sure she saw it all of the time.

I am not saying I agree with it, but those were the times. Speculation are us!

"Was going into real estate"....I am not buying it. She may as well have said she was gonna be a brain surgeon.

What is narcissistic and remorseless... Getting breast implants and not paying her share towards the mortgage.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Here is someone who played her cards right

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/04/local/la-me-barbara-piasecka-johnson-20130405

JA ain't no Barbara P. Johnson and LaJolla ain't no Palm Beach or Princeton (where Barbara lived some of the time).
But I understand your points, human.....I really do.

I'm hoping things aren't as shallow as you say.....

:seeya:

 

[Linda7NJ]

I am not defending her. I am just trying to figure this out. A lot of women never live on their own. They get married or live with a BF. is it parasitic to get married and not work?

We do not know if the things said about her by that woman working with her are true.

It is hard to believe there would be any reason for a restaurant to keep such a crappy waitress. Especially at a time when jobs were hard to come by.

I do not think she is a waste of space. She is worse because she took a life and continues to cause pain, but I think to figure her out, the facts should be looked at.

She is despised, so any bad thing said about her is appealing. But, that does not make it true.

Of course it isn't parasitic to get married and not work. Its parasitic when the parasite contributes next to nothing or nothing.... And I'm not just talking about financially. It's all about them, their wants, their needs, they're an emotional sponge that sucks their host dry...

 

[Linda7NJ]

As far as the not paying for big ticket items, I have seen this pattern in many women, my sisters included (and they have masters degrees; always got houses or condos or cars off men, though).

As have I. All by itself, it may not say much...but IMO when looking at the totality & all the other traits listed... It screams psychopath.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I think that the "sugar daddies" around these here parts like a woman that has some common interests, career, or hobby. That's how the women meet them. I think most of the "sugar daddies" are rather reserved and not so very naive and stupid.

What could JA do to meet her "sugar daddy"......offer him some crayons and sing "Holy Night" very off key?

Roflmao! True that!

 

[SMK]

Here is someone who played her cards right

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/04/local/la-me-barbara-piasecka-johnson-20130405

Really unbelievable what these young women can and will do: And they are really not even that beautiful, and obviously this girl was a cook and maid, and then winds up with 350 Mil because she marries her 76 year old employer? At 76, can't one just suck it up and wait to die? Or hire a paid escort for a bit of fun and companionship? Why marry and give away the family fortune? What are these men thinking of???

What man could pull this off (even young gay males do not). I can remember being in my 20s and very attractive and getting rejected by many men who were in love with someone else. Was I stupid not to look for an 80 year old????:waitasec:

 

[Linda7NJ]

I have said this many times. I have seen women get sugar daddies and they are not looking at personality or conversation partner.

That is the reason why some eomen get *advertiser censored* and other surgery.

If you do not believe me, go to any expensive area and watch to see what a sexy girl can do. It really is pathetic.

The term troohy wife is for a reason. And it is not personality

The difference is IMO the woman is capable of focusing on the man and strokes his ego. With Jodi, it's the "All About Jodi Show" 24/7

Men ain't gonna be super generous for some of that. IMO

 

[SMK]

I think that the "sugar daddies" around these here parts like a woman that has some common interests, career, or hobby. That's how the women meet them. I think most of the "sugar daddies" are rather reserved and not so very naive and stupid.

What could JA do to meet her "sugar daddy"......offer him some crayons and sing "Holy Night" very off key?

From what I've seen, she had as much and more to offer than many others. I cannot believe the stupidity of older men.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Yes, its sickeningly shallow, and I for one believe Arias would not have wanted to be this for some older guy with money. Travis' youth, his personality, his spirituality and his seriousness coupled with a boyish prankishness and the knowledge of all that he had had to overcome: I believe these things were really valued by her.

She was that for Daryl IMO... He was a much older creepy guy.
She wanted to be Travis. Since that's impossible... She wanted to be his wife and ride his coat tails to the good life and hope she would be viewed the same way... As if through osmosis she would suddenly become "someone"

 

[Linda7NJ]

But Jodi's past actions show that she did in fact want someone to support her. Daryl was at least 15 years her senior. Unfortunately he was not as wealthy as Jodi would have liked so she opted for the next upward step.......Travis. Jodi sees the material things: the house, the car, the money, the nice clothes, the trips. That's what matters to Jodi. Since Jodi is an empty shell herself it is very difficult for her to appreciate or even desire those with good values or traits. What she does want, appreciate and desire is the material things that she values and that she thinks makes one "successful".

MOO

I agree! I do think she wanted the respect and likability that came so easy for Travis for herself.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Really unbelievable what these young women can and will do: And they are really not even that beautiful, and obviously this girl was a cook and maid, and then winds up with 350 Mil because she marries her 76 year old employer? At 76, can't one just suck it up and wait to die? Or hire a paid escort for a bit of fun and companionship? Why marry and give away the family fortune? What are these men thinking of???

What man could pull this off (even young gay males do not). I can remember being in my 20s and very attractive and getting rejected by many men who were in love with someone else. Was I stupid not to look for an 80 year old????:waitasec:

Nope. You're normal.

I turned down a few pretty decent filthy rich guys because I felt nothing for them. And they weren't old! My own mother asked me if I was crazy!

I'm happily married to a wonderful man that loves me. We're not filthy rich.... But we are happy, I'd never want anymore than that! I could never sell my soul for $$$

 

[human]

Here is info on La Jolla. The most expensive place in the US.

La Jolla has the Scripps Institute, for one thing.

Jodi saw real wealth

La Jolla - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Linda7NJ]

From what I've seen, she had as much and more to offer than many others. I cannot believe the stupidity of older men.

Not all men.... But I can't either. But hey, it's their money and if some young gal makes them happy, who are we to say its wrong? All I know for sure... It's not for me!

I still can't get over how much money some will shell out constantly on strippers!

 

[SMK]

She was that for Daryl IMO... He was a much older creepy guy.
She wanted to be Travis. Since that's impossible... She wanted to be his wife and ride his coat tails to the good life and hope she would be viewed the same way... As if through osmosis she would suddenly become "someone"

This sort of osmosis used to be par for the course with women. I recall asking my mother why she married my father, and she said, "I didn't want to be a scholar or author; I wanted to marry one." Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Here is info on La Jolla. The most expensive place in the US.

La Jolla has the Scripps Institute, for one thing.

Jodi saw real wealth

La Jolla - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

She had zero chance at landing a brilliant educated man with gobs of money. Don't think for a second she didn't try, really really hard. IMO

 

[SMK]

Nope. You're normal.

I turned down a few pretty decent filthy rich guys because I felt nothing for them. And they weren't old! My own mother asked me if I was crazy!

I'm happily married to a wonderful man that loves me. We're not filthy rich.... But we are happy, I'd never want anymore than that! I could never sell my soul for $$$

That's it, in a nutshell. I just cannot imagine doing this to my own integrity. It is distasteful and worse. And men should want more, too, than someone just after their money.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

So with your deep thinking and high intuition and a sound ability in lateral thinking, you can do a better job than trained forensic analysts?

I'll bite. Specifically, what should have been done better?

.....I gave up thinking laterally when the last time I ended up preggers, bounced a lot of cheques, and ty-died my shoelaces. (j/k).

.....now I prefer literally thinking.....


moo